MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: jon-tfsi on April 04, 2012, 07:22:58 pm
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As per title.
I bought these recently and they are for S3/R32/cupra fitment.
The fronts have a banjo fitting on one end. The originals dont. My thoughts are they wont fit or am i having a blond moment?
The short ones are for the rear. They look like they will fit. can anyone confirm?
Any help is appreciated :happy2:
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Que DaveB :popcornsoda:
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My HEL hoses are a banjo fitting iirc, you do away with the small rigid pipe on the rear of the caliper with aftermarket hoses and just use the banjo straight on :smiley:
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Haha i was deffinately having a blond moment.
Just realised they also replace the small bore pipe connecting the original hose to the caliper
taxi for Smith !!
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^^ You confirmed things for me Beddie.
They are the correct ones :star:
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I think the banjo connector on the longer hose (front hose) should be angled... well... at least my HEL ones are.
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R32 Caliplers HEL Hoses (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/5187207722/) by Rich Wigley (http://www.flickr.com/people/richwigley/), on Flickr
If that banjo connecter isn't angled, its gonna be put the hose under strain to get it through the retaining bracket.
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Well spotted rich
The connector is straight. I have just trial fitted them and its not putting too much flex into the hose
The design would have been better if the banjo fitting was angled like yours though . . . . .
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yep they won't work pal unless you ditch the bracket and they're floating around in the wind.
They've only got one mid line fitting which is the give away, for an extra 30p and an angled fitting they'd be ok.
There's a lot of people selling hoses who just guess what they should be like, have the rears got a square section removed from the fitting? Unless you file away the caliper they won't fit either
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^^ You confirmed things for me Beddie.
They are the correct ones :star:
No probs mate :happy2:
Although make sure they have also supplied the butterfly clips that secure the hose at the rigid pipe / body junction as my first set of HEL hoses didnt have these and the flexing caused the outer sheath to crack after only 3 months, new set with the clips still look brand new after 15 months..
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yep they won't work pal unless you ditch the bracket and they're floating around in the wind.
They've only got one mid line fitting which is the give away, for an extra 30p and an angled fitting they'd be ok.
There's a lot of people selling hoses who just guess what they should be like, have the rears got a square section removed from the fitting? Unless you file away the caliper they won't fit either
Looks like thats exactly how they are designed Dave. Would you say they are no - good to fit?
Poorly designed
Im not sure what you mean about the rears dave, there does not appear to be a square section removed from them ??
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Im not sure what you mean about the rears dave, there does not appear to be a square section removed from them ??
The shorter rear HEL hoses have a perfectly round end to them (behind the yellow cap on your photo). If you look at the silver bracket on the S3/R32 caliper, the hole on it which the hose pokes through may not be perfectly circular; it may have a flat part to it with a little notch in it which the OEM hose is shaped to fit through. So the hole it goes through looks more like a D than an O but the end of the HEL line is O shaped if that makes sense.
A round file and two minutes of filing will allow you to round off the hole so that the HEL line will poke through it.
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Ive just ordered a set of goodridge braided hoses and they are the striaght banjo aswell.
So can i use them or do i need to send them back to demon tweeks ?????????
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^^ adding more confusion
I wont fit mine like this as im not happy with them.
Are they an MOT fail like this?
Thanks for the replies :happy2:
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Buy the HEL ones, with the angled ends. I wouldn't like mine to me fitted without the bracket in place.
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^^ adding more confusion
I wont fit mine like this as im not happy with them.
Are they an MOT fail like this?
Thanks for the replies :happy2:
Not sure whether the Banjo bolt config will result in an MOT fail but can speak from experience that not having a suitable clip to secure the line at the body mount is, HEL supply the correct butterfly clip in their kits :happy2:
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I emailed a company selling HEL brake lines and they had a striaght banjo aswell so this must be the norm.
Put my mind at rest a bit more and hopefully get mine fitted soon.
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I emailed a company selling HEL brake lines and they had a striaght banjo aswell so this must be the norm.
Put my mind at rest a bit more and hopefully get mine fitted soon.
Why are my HEL angled then?
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Gets stranger this i just want the correct ones for the car. As its a major safety issue if the hose goes
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I emailed a company selling HEL brake lines and they had a striaght banjo aswell so this must be the norm.
Put my mind at rest a bit more and hopefully get mine fitted soon.
Why are my HEL angled then?
+ 1, from an engineering point of view I wouldn't be happy if they weren't angled as the bend in the line would be too harsh when using the line bracket on the rear of the caliper..
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I got my angled ones of Dave b but i just used the original flexis
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I got my angled ones of Dave b but i just used the original flexis
I think you got them off me?
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Hose companies have not a clue about original fitment it surprises me not a bit you've been sent straight banjos as that's the same as the GTI.....I mean if you're HEL or good ridge how different can they be....right?
I've got VAG10s in stock same as. Rich's if you'd like some
I've never supplied rear hoses, the scale of expansion is exponential to the length of unsupported hose internally so a 300mm hose will have 4 times the problem that a 150mm hose has....
I also don't want to set about my new hoses with a file and as yet NOBODY supply's the correct fitting for golf rear yet they all supply rear hoses.....
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I got my angled ones of Dave b but i just used the original flexis
I think you got them off me?
:ashamed: sorry Rich i did