MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: danishmkvgti on April 11, 2012, 12:14:44 pm
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http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=show_news&id_nws=86
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:signLOL:
Looks like Revo is now competing with APR to buy or get into bed with as many of the industry's independent companies as possible!
Much as I like Revo, I don't think that many of the BSH products measure up to the hardware products which APR offer. Just my opinion.
I think it's a shame if we, the consumer/end-user, can eventually only choose from two big companies. Big doesn't always equal best.
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the bsh ' work of art' turbo kit looks decent enough though robin :popcornsoda:
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the bsh ' work of art' turbo kit looks decent enough though robin :popcornsoda:
....Indeed it does. That's why I used the word "many". :happy2:
And it's probably the main BSH product which is of any direct use to Revo developments.
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YES, i want that BSH manifold. plus the wastegate plus the GT30 tubs :D
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YES, i want that BSH manifold. plus the wastegate plus the GT30 tubs :D
....Then perhaps I was wrong/mistaken in my first post. :ashamed:
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Wonder how long it will be before APR or Revo attempt to buy the likes of Shark, Jabbasport and R-Tech to completely squash to the market to be a "Big 2" only.
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the bsh ' work of art' turbo kit looks decent enough though robin :popcornsoda:
But can you actually get one. :scared:
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Those rear drop links will still rattle, whoevers names on them
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Maybe it'll mean they make better quality stuff. The True Seal is, to my eyes, the best looking intake on the market but it's not compatible with RHD cars which only learned after fitting mine. BSH's customer service is terrible too. Maybe Revo can help with that.
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I'm reminded of what a Native American friend once said: "The Red Man chases the Vision, the White Man chases the dollar" - He was referring to white Americans in particular. The Brits are generally more likely to chase their visions and the dollar will follow (or not as the case may be) whereas the Yanks are generally primarily profit orientated regardless of the product. It's a generalisation of course but there is some truth in it.
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Doesnt mention BSH at all but...
Funny how Kenney Enterprises is within walking distance of BSH??!!!
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Doesnt mention BSH at all but...
Funny how Kenney Enterprises is within walking distance of BSH??!!!
....I didn't bother to read the posted link but responded to the thread title.
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I'd expect to see a big response to APR's turbo kit coming very soon. And so the games begin again - Who has the most power? Aggressive attacks on product quality. Fanboy forum arguments. Pissing contests. Bullsh*t dyno results..... Yawn.
Question is, who'll be the first person who jumped to APR to go back to REVO??
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I'd expect to see a big response to APR's turbo kit coming very soon. And so the games begin again - Who has the most power? Aggressive attacks on product quality. Fanboy forum arguments. Pissing contests. Bullsh*t dyno results..... Yawn.
Question is, who'll be the first person who jumped to APR to go back to REVO??
:popcornsoda:
:happy2:
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I'd expect to see a big response to APR's turbo kit coming very soon. And so the games begin again - Who has the most power? Aggressive attacks on product quality. Fanboy forum arguments. Pissing contests. Bullsh*t dyno results..... Yawn.
Question is, who'll be the first person who jumped to APR to go back to REVO??
:popcornsoda:
..... http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,45828.0.html :laugh:
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I'd expect to see a big response to APR's turbo kit coming very soon. And so the games begin again - Who has the most power? Aggressive attacks on product quality. Fanboy forum arguments. Pissing contests. Bullsh*t dyno results..... Yawn.
Question is, who'll be the first person who jumped to APR to go back to REVO??
:popcornsoda:
:signLOL: :popcornsoda:
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Cant imagine the 'buy-out and amalgamate companies' routine that APR and REVO are doing right now is going to be good for the smaller tuners, however REVO and APR are pretty much going to be one stop shops now for everything from software though to hardware and custom work.
The main issue i foresee is prices wont be dropping anytime soon as their overheads will be getting larger surely, plus R&D isnt cheap.
It would have been nice to see the big companies reducing the price of the TFSI maps now. The engine has been out for about 7 years so its hardly about recovering the cost of the initial R&D now surely
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Well I can tell you now that what ever car i get next, a APR or REVO map won't be going anywhere near it.
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Well I can tell you now that what ever car i get next, a APR or REVO map won't be going anywhere near it.
as inthey have priced themselves out of custom or you dont rate them?
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Well I can tell you now that what ever car i get next, a APR or REVO map won't be going anywhere near it.
as inthey have priced themselves out of custom or you dont rate them?
I don't like what either of them are doing at the moment. They are both hell bent on getting one up on each other. I wonder which on of them is gonna try and buy Forge. :signLOL:
Ill either take my car to R-tech or PDT depending on what car I get.
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Well I can tell you now that what ever car i get next, a APR or REVO map won't be going anywhere near it.
as inthey have priced themselves out of custom or you dont rate them?
I don't like what either of them are doing at the moment. They are both hell bent on getting one up on each other. I wonder which on of them is gonna try and buy Forge. :signLOL:
Ill either take my car to R-tech or PDT depending on what car I get.
....Or get the sort of car whose performance doesn't need remapping.
Rich, you are a man of principle rather like myself :drinking:. Personally I would probably still go to Revo again - Their B/T/F adjustability has been invaluable.
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Looks like Revo are responding quickly to the re-emergence of APR in the UK. I think that there will be plenty of positives and negatives to come out of this battle for the Market share. There's only one way to resolve this..................
FIGHT!!!!!
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Personally I would probably still go to Revo again - Their B/T/F adjustability has been invaluable.
But thats not an option on the later ECUs in the Mk6 TSI. They just switch between 95/98 and 99ron maps now. B/F/T are fixed at what the dealer sets it at
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iirc the reason JonnyC went with APR was because they can develop the hardware and build it all themselves. Since REVO are now in bed with stasis and BSH id say theres ahuge amount of hardware they can develop so now we have two big tuning companies in the UK who can almost offer a one stop shop
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Doesnt say anything about BSH, But hopefully Revo will make a nice RHD manifold like the BSH one as all the big turbo kits are LHD and you have to make alot of custom parts for them to fit.
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Doesnt say anything about BSH, But hopefully Revo will make a nice RHD manifold like the BSH one as all the big turbo kits are LHD and you have to make alot of custom parts for them to fit.
This could still be an issue as both stasis and BSH are american so will obviously concentrate on the larger market more than us here in the UK.
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Well I can tell you now that what ever car i get next, a APR or REVO map won't be going anywhere near it.
as inthey have priced themselves out of custom or you dont rate them?
I don't like what either of them are doing at the moment. They are both hell bent on getting one up on each other. I wonder which on of them is gonna try and buy Forge. :signLOL:
Ill either take my car to R-tech or PDT depending on what car I get.
That's business, Rich - compete or die.
So long as it doesn't turn into the farce of the early days, then hopefully it'll be good in the long run for all customers.
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Doesnt say anything about BSH, But hopefully Revo will make a nice RHD manifold like the BSH one as all the big turbo kits are LHD and you have to make alot of custom parts for them to fit.
This could still be an issue as both stasis and BSH are american so will obviously concentrate on the larger market more than us here in the UK.
There's also Japan, Australia and many other huge RHD markets :happy2:
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Well I can tell you now that what ever car i get next, a APR or REVO map won't be going anywhere near it.
as inthey have priced themselves out of custom or you dont rate them?
I don't like what either of them are doing at the moment. They are both hell bent on getting one up on each other. I wonder which on of them is gonna try and buy Forge. :signLOL:
Ill either take my car to R-tech or PDT depending on what car I get.
That's business, Rich - compete or die.
So long as it doesn't turn into the farce of the early days, then hopefully it'll be good in the long run for all customers.
Yeah thats true mike. Bit it's so 'cat and mouse'. Try need to grow up.