MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: deano65 on April 11, 2012, 07:24:18 pm
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Hi everyone
can anyone tell me what the blue motion is like compared to the Gt in terms of how it drives and is the blue motion got any negatives with the economy..
Thanks
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Not got a Bluemotion, but I have a BKD 140 (6 speed) and my wife has the BXE 105 (5 speed) in an Altea and my 2.0 is better in every way - power, economy and driveability.
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Depends if you are going to mod it or not! No idea about the blue motion but mines a GT 2.0 tdi, its been remapped and i regularly get 60+mpg
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Well..
looks like my Gti has to go ,don't get me wrong its a fab car but 30 mpg !!! trying to make excuses to keep it but when you are talking double the mileage with a Tdi ...looks like i will be trading it in and losing a fair bit, but putting petrol in all the time isn't cost effective..
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Could get an LPG conversion? 80p / litre. Even at 30mpg your getting virtually the equivalent of 60mpg (as the fuel is nearly half the price of diesel) :grin:
Some of the R32 guys have done it, and I'm sure someone has done it to a TFSI. IIRC the kit & fitting costs around £900.
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have you ever done the actual sums? I mean if money is too tight to mention and you do a lot of miles well then yes you'll make a saving that is significant but if you do less than average miles and you enjoy your driving, seriously i'd stick with what you've got.
10,000 miles @ 30mpg = £2,197 of V power
10,000 miles @ 40mpg = £1,648 of V power
so £549 difference over the course of a year which is an extra £10.55 a week for driving with a smile on your face or alternatively drink 3 less pints a week or 2 if you live in London and you can claim you're getting 40mpg :laugh:
fair enough, if you're seriously talking going derv then the saving will be greater but again personally speaking there'd be less chance of there being a grin on my face for not that much of a saving. I think mpg figures are thrown around quite a bit these days without much consideration of what they mean financially to the individual, especially if you enjoy driving which i figure folks must do if they buy a GTI in the first place.
I guess the fact i don't smoke and don't drink that much means i'm happy to let my car pi55 my money up the wall :driver:
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i get 56mpg out of my tdi with a smile on my face :grin:
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then more power to your elbow sir :happy2:
Just throwing the maths out there because as i say if the money aspect aint too tight to mention then what's a tenner or so a week amongst friends...?
Of course only the individual can answer this question for their self. :smiley:
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then more power to your elbow sir :happy2:
Just throwing the maths out there because as i say if the money aspect aint too tight to mention then what's a tenner or so a week amongst friends...?
Of course only the individual can answer this question for their self. :smiley:
me and the op should swap cars as i only do a mile a day in mine :signLOL:
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have you ever done the actual sums? I mean if money is too tight to mention and you do a lot of miles well then yes you'll make a saving that is significant but if you do less than average miles and you enjoy your driving, seriously i'd stick with what you've got.
10,000 miles @ 30mpg = £2,197 of V power
10,000 miles @ 40mpg = £1,648 of V power
so £549 difference over the course of a year which is an extra £10.55 a week for driving with a smile on your face or alternatively drink 3 less pints a week or 2 if you live in London and you can claim you're getting 40mpg :laugh:
fair enough, if you're seriously talking going derv then the saving will be greater but again personally speaking there'd be less chance of there being a grin on my face for not that much of a saving. I think mpg figures are thrown around quite a bit these days without much consideration of what they mean financially to the individual, especially if you enjoy driving which i figure folks must do if they buy a GTI in the first place.
I guess the fact i don't smoke and don't drink that much means i'm happy to let my car pi55 my money up the wall :driver:
After having a gt tdi and doing the sums you did @(and also do not smoke/drink etc) i thought why not get a gti as it maybe inpratical to have when im older so i did and not regretting it yet :signLOL:
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Cheers everyone yeah see what you mean.. :laugh:
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How is every one getting such good figures from there diesels at best I get 46 - 47.
Currently I am on 45.8
I don't rag it either the odd foot down bowt it.
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have you ever done the actual sums? I mean if money is too tight to mention and you do a lot of miles well then yes you'll make a saving that is significant but if you do less than average miles and you enjoy your driving, seriously i'd stick with what you've got.
10,000 miles @ 30mpg = £2,197 of V power
10,000 miles @ 40mpg = £1,648 of V power
so £549 difference over the course of a year which is an extra £10.55 a week for driving with a smile on your face or alternatively drink 3 less pints a week or 2 if you live in London and you can claim you're getting 40mpg :laugh:
fair enough, if you're seriously talking going derv then the saving will be greater but again personally speaking there'd be less chance of there being a grin on my face for not that much of a saving. I think mpg figures are thrown around quite a bit these days without much consideration of what they mean financially to the individual, especially if you enjoy driving which i figure folks must do if they buy a GTI in the first place.
I guess the fact i don't smoke and don't drink that much means i'm happy to let my car pi55 my money up the wall :driver:
I gotta say here, I don't know where you're getting this 40 mpg from? If it's a GTI I've never seen one get a consistent 40 mpg. :stupid: And if its a GT TDi then I've still not seen one that can consistently get as low as 40 mpg. :stupid:
Here's how I worked out my reasoning for having a GT TDi:
Petrol (Shell Normal): 139.9p/litre or £6.36/gallon. I do circa 15000 miles/year so would need 500 gallons at 30 mpg (average). This adds up to £3179.93 per year spent on fuel. :surprised:
Diesel (Shell Normal): 145.9p/litre or £6.63/gallon. I do circa 15000 miles/year so would need 312.5 gallons at 48 mpg (average). This adds up to £2072.69 per year spent on fuel. :happy2:
My car is the 2.0 GT TDI 140 mapped to 190 bhp. I regulary put the foot down, use on small B roads all week (to work) sitting in stop start traffic, and use a 50/50 split of motorway/non-motorway at the weekend. I occasionally go long trips away and wouldn't dream of changing to a GTI (cost-wise).
Howerver, there's always two sides to a story. The GTI has the looks, the noise and better handling than any diesel model of Golf so if this is more important to you then a GTI is the right car. The GTI, or Ed30 is also a lot more tune-able as well and you can easily see big power from a few mods. I get the feeling the OP posted to find out which is more cost effective.
RE the Bluemotion. I've never driven or even sat in one so I can't comment on that. However, if you are used to the GTI's power then you will miss it greatly moving to a 105 bhp diesel. :scared:
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You will need to factor in how much you of a 'hit' you will take trading in the Gti at the moment. If you are going to lose say £2k+ that will buy you a lot of bloody fuel that you can put towards the difference between 30mpg and 55mpg
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I dream of 50mpg+ out of my gt tdi.
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I drive a 2004 GT TDI with 90,000+ miles on the clock. I am finding at the minute I am getting somewhere between 480 and 550 miles to a tank, daily use, without trying to be frugal. The record miles to one tank was a smidgen over 600 meaning an average of 55mpg. Normal day driving sees me anywhere from 45-52mpg. :happy2:
Neil86, have you any major mods on your car? I think my car drives marginally better with the remap (slightly more frugal) and much much better when using my 16" Alloys (winters). Replica wheels will see fuel efficiency dive down, as will poor servicing, blocked EGR valve, fithy air filter, old oil, etc. Do you know when you car was last serviced? Lastly, when I lowered my car I noticed an increase in mpg too. :wink:
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I service it myself genuine vag parts every 10k long life quantum oil. Although I wasn't happy with the quality of the genuine air filter not as good as the mahl one I had previously.
Major mods eibach coilovers noticed better fuel economy with them set low.
18x8.5 wheels bowt it never been remapped.
Not had egr off as I wasn't sure if disconnecting it and putting it back on would throw up a fault code or if there's any seals.
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What would put me off a TDI (from any manufacturer) is the inevitable wearing out of the fuel system. Every person I've known with a VAG 2.0 TDI (140 or 170) has had a fuel delivery issue (pump / injectors) of some sort. Likewise common rail diesels from other marques - I had 4 injectors go on my last diesel, likewise with my sister's car, a colleague spoke to me today and said his Merc 320CDI is playing up, and another colleague had a couple of new injectors on his 220CDI a month ago. In the past year when someone has mentioned a problem with their car to me, if it's been a diesel it's been high hundreds maybe thousands, or if it's a petrol it's been a coil or sensor at only tens of pounds.
Anecdotal? Yes. The good thing about using more fuel with a petrol is you can plan for it, but for some people the surprise cost of a couple of injectors / fuel pump is quite hard to stomach.
I'd quite like a fast diesel as an every day car, if it delivered good fuel economy with solid reliability. From past experience though, I just can't be bothered with the surprise costs and unreliability.
Getting back on topic - my experience of a 170 GTD and a 105PD is that the GT is far more driver orientated, but the 1.9 was easier to get good mpg from, unsurprisingly.
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i have had no fuel issues with mine--just bloody turbos :signLOL:
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Iv got the 140 and it seems to drive ok. Not got the kick I want but regularly returns 55mpg
Seems to miss a little bit on startup. So I may have problems with fuel system :( only just bought it too
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I get 40+mpg on the way to work, 35mpg on the way home(lots of traffic) and as much as 55mpg on a really good M/Way run, if I drive like a granny.
...and don't forget, Tax and Insurance is cheaper in a diesel too.