MK5 Golf GTI
General => Detailing => Topic started by: Phil Miller on April 15, 2012, 08:19:00 pm
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I went to VW action yesterday, now before i go to far i will point out im the keen of owner who will wash his car and be happy with the results of just a wash, but after seeing all the shiney cars yesterday i decided i would wash and then AG super resin my car (paint work was feeling a little rough) so i set at it, now i will post up the pics but its shown me how much tar and stone chips ive got on my bonnet, im gonna have to give her a full day of detailing :confused:
so how should i attack her, advice please and inc products/and prices of stuff you recommend
here are my results from just a wash and AG super resin
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Nice car fella :grin:
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I'm no detailer, but I find AG Super Resin Polish topped off with a coating of Colinite 476s wax does the job :happy2:
The Colinite is so thick it locks in the polish and keeps the car looking great (and water beading) for at least 5 months :notworthy:
I wash weekly with Meguiars Gold Glass car wash which works well with the Colinite
The SRP is great for polishing out scratches too. No need to buy any other products (except a tube of Autosol for the exhaust tips)
Graeme
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Nice car fella :grin:
Thank you mate :happy2: the first time its been polished in 2 years :ashamed: may have to stay on top of it now
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I'm no detailer, but I find AG Super Resin Polish topped off with a coating of Colinite 476s wax does the job :happy2:
The Colinite is so thick it locks in the polish and keeps the car looking great (and water beading) for at least 5 months :notworthy:
I wash weekly with Meguiars Gold Glass car wash which works well with the Colinite
The SRP is great for polishing out scratches too. No need to buy any other products (except a tube of Autosol for the exhaust tips)
Graeme
Hi Graeme, how easy is the Colinite 476s to apply? do you apply it the same way as SRP, let it dry then buff it off?
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Heres a good guide to detaling http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4823.0.html
A Clay bar would be good to get rid of the contaminants on the paint like the tar. Its done in between washing and polishing
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Hi chap - lovely car
I'm afraid the answers from the detailing crowd (me included) will become quite baffling - it will all depend on how much time and money you have.
A lot of folks use Auto Glym Super Resin Polish (AG SRP) and are happy with the results as it contains fillers that mask the shallower marks in your paint.
This is readily available from high street shops for about a tenner.
Auto Glym HD Wax is a good 'LSP' to appy after the SRP and is easy to apply and remove and gives good durability to your paint....£25 - £40 depending on seller.
You could also try a glaze such as poor boys black hole - or Wet Glaze 2.0
A can of worms is truly opened when you get into the world of car paint prep.....and it drains your wallet too!
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I'm no detailer, but I find AG Super Resin Polish topped off with a coating of Colinite 476s wax does the job :happy2:
The Colinite is so thick it locks in the polish and keeps the car looking great (and water beading) for at least 5 months :notworthy:
I wash weekly with Meguiars Gold Glass car wash which works well with the Colinite
The SRP is great for polishing out scratches too. No need to buy any other products (except a tube of Autosol for the exhaust tips)
Graeme
Hi Graeme, how easy is the Colinite 476s to apply? do you apply it the same way as SRP, let it dry then buff it off?
Exactly the same :happy2:
Goes on easily and buffs off with no problems once dried.
See here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collinite-476s-Wax-and-1-x-Soft-Applicator-Pad-Offer-/110797148849?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Car_Care_Cleaning&hash=item19cc0652b1#ht_500wt_689
Don't let the 1950's tin put you off, this is very good stuff.
As Nathan said above, worth going over your car with a clay bar (Meguiars clay is great!) before you apply the SRP :happy2:
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Hi chap - lovely car
I'm afraid the answers from the detailing crowd (me included) will become quite baffling - it will all depend on how much time and money you have.
A lot of folks use Auto Glym Super Resin Polish (AG SRP) and are happy with the results as it contains fillers that mask the shallower marks in your paint.
This is readily available from high street shops for about a tenner.
Auto Glym HD Wax is a good 'LSP' to appy after the SRP and is easy to apply and remove and gives good durability to your paint....£25 - £40 depending on seller.
You could also try a glaze such as poor boys black hole - or Wet Glaze 2.0
A can of worms is truly opened when you get into the world of car paint prep.....and it drains your wallet too!
Thank you mate :happy2: hmm why does there have to be a choice of products to use :surprised: ive used AG SRP loads of times and have always got on well with it, the HD WAX could be the way forward, i know what will happen i will buy some, try it then buy some more and try that, but never really decide what i like best, one things for sure i wanna get the tar spots off asap, because i now know they are there its doing my head in lol
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I'm no detailer, but I find AG Super Resin Polish topped off with a coating of Colinite 476s wax does the job :happy2:
The Colinite is so thick it locks in the polish and keeps the car looking great (and water beading) for at least 5 months :notworthy:
I wash weekly with Meguiars Gold Glass car wash which works well with the Colinite
The SRP is great for polishing out scratches too. No need to buy any other products (except a tube of Autosol for the exhaust tips)
Graeme
Hi Graeme, how easy is the Colinite 476s to apply? do you apply it the same way as SRP, let it dry then buff it off?
Exactly the same :happy2:
Goes on easily and buffs off with no problems once dried.
See here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collinite-476s-Wax-and-1-x-Soft-Applicator-Pad-Offer-/110797148849?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Car_Care_Cleaning&hash=item19cc0652b1#ht_500wt_689
Don't let the 1950's tin put you off, this is very good stuff.
As Nathan said above, worth going over your car with a clay bar (Meguiars clay is great!) before you apply the SRP :happy2:
Ideal, thanks for the link, so how does clay work, is it just a case of having a golf ball size bit and pushing it on to the paint?
and surely it will get full of crap in no time?
i remember when a wash was good enough and if you owned a red car maybe a T cut lol
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Heres a good guide to detaling http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4823.0.html
A Clay bar would be good to get rid of the contaminants on the paint like the tar. Its done in between washing and polishing
Will be reading thro the link, i get the feeling my wallet isnt gonna like this much lol
Thank you mate :happy2:
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My advice would be to not waste money on expensive products yet. Use cheaper products until you get your technique perfected and have learned all the basics.
Try the polished bliss websitewww.polishedbliss.co.uk (http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk) they give great guides on techniques and instructions on how to use all products they sell.
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Hi chap - lovely car
I'm afraid the answers from the detailing crowd (me included) will become quite baffling - it will all depend on how much time and money you have.
A lot of folks use Auto Glym Super Resin Polish (AG SRP) and are happy with the results as it contains fillers that mask the shallower marks in your paint.
This is readily available from high street shops for about a tenner.
Auto Glym HD Wax is a good 'LSP' to appy after the SRP and is easy to apply and remove and gives good durability to your paint....£25 - £40 depending on seller.
You could also try a glaze such as poor boys black hole - or Wet Glaze 2.0
A can of worms is truly opened when you get into the world of car paint prep.....and it drains your wallet too!
Thank you mate :happy2: hmm why does there have to be a choice of products to use :surprised: ive used AG SRP loads of times and have always got on well with it, the HD WAX could be the way forward, i know what will happen i will buy some, try it then buy some more and try that, but never really decide what i like best, one things for sure i wanna get the tar spots off asap, because i now know they are there its doing my head in lol
to get tar off get AG intensive tar remover works a treat and it only cost around £5
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I'd definitely recommend using a clay bar, makes a big difference. I personally prefer using the Bilt Hamber clay to the Maguiars clay, I found it easier to work with and you get more for your money. Also, it works fine with just water alone, no need to splash out on clay lube.
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I'd definitely recommend using a clay bar, makes a big difference. I personally prefer using the Bilt Hamber clay to the Maguiars clay, I found it easier to work with and you get more for your money. Also, it works fine with just water alone, no need to splash out on clay lube.
i had to read that twice, well the last line anyway lol
Right ive got a rough idea of what im gonna do, take it Ebay is as good a place as any to get products from?
Ive seen the Bilt hamber clay on ebay one company is selling that with some colinite for £23 is that good???
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Theres plenty online. A personel favourite of mine is elite check it out. Also take a look at detailing world , theres some amazing guides on this site.
Good luck :happy2:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/
http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/
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Preparation is key! Bad prep with the best waxes applied will still look crap.
If you've never clayed before then get some the results will amaze you! You dont hav eto go made with products, you could just stick with -
Wash wheels arches etc..
Rinse car - to remove surface grits and dirt
Wash Car (wash mitts, with two buckets, wash & rinse - not sponges)
Rinse car
Clay car - plenty of lube to be used :signLOL:
Rinse or wash car again.
Dry - drying towel - Not shammy or Blade :fighting:
Use AG super resin
Then good wax, colli 476
Or you could even get this
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/complete-detailing-kits/collinite-476s-carlack-kit/prod_408.html
Have fun :happy2:
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Thank you for all the hints and tips of what to use and how to do it, im still alittle unsure with the clay, but like all the fun things us men do you need plenty of lube :grin:
Im gonna set aside a day, prob this weekend coming and have a go, one thing i have seen, whilst reading what products do, even after washing mine it always has a rough feel to the paint, which from what ive read the clay will help to sort, i will post up my results :happy2:
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As others have said, very easy to get sucked into. It's easy to spend £££. I would recommend gettin the car detailed professionally and then just do basic maintenance washes. You can then read up and learn about detailing.
Have a read of micsta's threads at the top of this section.
Clay will help but I'd normally recommend using a tar remover first. Otherwise when you clay, you'll push the tar around further. AG SRP is very good as a hand polish and several coats will ensure a great finish. I love collinite 476s. Very underrated IMO.
What are you gonna use for the wheels? The tyres? The glass? The rubber? The plastics? The interior. You can see how it starts to mount up!
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I'd also have a read on Detailingworld in both the showroom and studio sections. You can see the processes that pros and amateurs alike go through, the products they use and how they use them.
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Phil
I'd say get a clay bar and would +1 for the Bilt Hamber soft bar - just use your hose to lubricate it. Amazing the amount of c*ap you'll get off your car.
Then, before you get addicted like the rest of us, have a look at Ben's site - Rubbish Boys. You can pick up a Dodo Juice Panel Pot for around a fiver - i use DJ and find it excellent. The Panel Pots are cheap but let you try adding a wax over your Autoglym SRP. They'll do a bout 10 cars if you go thinly.
Maybe Purple Haze for your black or Hard Candy is their easiest wax to use. On with a foam applicator in 15 mins, buff off in 20mins or so. Great shine and decent protection too.
Good luck
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What's the address for rubbish boys?
Panel pots sound like a great idea. I'm gonna give this a go.
Thanks
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Found it:
http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk (http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/)
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I'd definitely recommend using a clay bar, makes a big difference. I personally prefer using the Bilt Hamber clay to the Maguiars clay, I found it easier to work with and you get more for your money. Also, it works fine with just water alone, no need to splash out on clay lube.
i had to read that twice, well the last line anyway lol
Right ive got a rough idea of what im gonna do, take it Ebay is as good a place as any to get products from?
Ive seen the Bilt hamber clay on ebay one company is selling that with some colinite for £23 is that good???
Sounds quite good to me :happy2: