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Title: advice on water pump
Post by: mumf78 on April 18, 2012, 08:17:30 pm
as above im having my cambelt changed next weekend and while its stripped im going to change the water pump. the car is a 2006 golf gt tdi 140. iv heard about the plastic impeller pumps breaking and the other story is the metal impeller shattering and damaging the engine. vw say there supplied pump is plastic. i really dont know which one to go for. your feedback will be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 18, 2012, 09:03:13 pm
the metal ones can come away too so i have heard  :scared:
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: mumf78 on April 18, 2012, 09:14:48 pm
ye thats what i put in the above post. i really dont know for the best. my local parts supplier said all the parts are oem spec and the pump is plastic. not one recall!
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 18, 2012, 09:18:22 pm
just go for the one thats in stock thats all you can do  :smiley:
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: 56OctyVRS on April 18, 2012, 10:01:47 pm
The pump I removed from my car last year was plastic and the prop showed no sign of cracking and looked as good as new. The pump will have a two year guarantee anyway so I wouldnt worry about it.
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: omeydz on April 22, 2012, 12:25:43 pm
OEM stock is best. If anything happens during the guarantee period, you have that to fall on!
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: RedRobin on April 22, 2012, 12:40:14 pm
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IIRC, I have read on this forum a long time ago that it is strongly advised to change the pump at the same time as a cambelt. The reasons given were fully explained but I don't exactly remember and don't want to unintentionally misinform.
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: Tamiyoman on April 22, 2012, 01:26:27 pm
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IIRC, I have read on this forum a long time ago that it is strongly advised to change the pump at the same time as a cambelt. The reasons given were fully explained but I don't exactly remember and don't want to unintentionally misinform.

For the sake of £60 its worth having it changed, my 08 plate ED30 is booked in for Cambelt/Waterpump service on tuesday 24th, for £60 I decided to get it done at same time!
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: Phil Miller on April 22, 2012, 01:43:26 pm
Two sides to this coin, first up the plastic impellers dont crack that often, what they do is come loose on the shaft, when cold its a snug fit when the engine warms up it expands slightly and then is free so doesnt move the coolant as it should, metal impellers, now ive NEVER had any problems with these, and always replace water pumps with metal, as the impeller doesnt come free like the plastic

the other side of the coin, if a plastic one comes free it normally just sits there and does nothing, if a metal one came off then yes engine damage COULD happen

There are a couple of reasons to replace a water pump when doing the cambelt change, here are the 2 main reasons

1, you have the belt off so your halfway there
2, it is showing signs of play and or there is a poweredery dust on the underside, a sure sign the pump is letting a little coolant weep

For me the reason i change pumps is because when a belt is fitted you set the belt tension to the correct amount, as the miles stack up the belt slackens off a little, so new belt on at the right tension on the belt and there is now a water pump bearing under pressure again, also if a pump has already done 60k your dreaming if you think it will do another 60k without problems
Get it changed

one other thing, i dont care what anyone say's YES pumps do have a warrenty, so you fit a new OEM 2 yr warrenty pump, after 18 months the impeller comes free, YOU WILL ONLY GET A NEW PUMP, THEY WILL NOT COVER ANY LABOUR, they could even claim it was fitted and tensioned incorrectly and not even cover the water pump

Ive been in the motor trade for 20yrs, ive seen many claims for parts made and very few ever get paid out, use genuine, have it fitted properly and if the pump lets rip, best you can hope for is a new pump, a massive £24 TPS trade, not worth the hassel of finding the invoice TBH
Title: Re: advice on water pump
Post by: RedRobin on April 22, 2012, 02:10:49 pm

For me the reason i change pumps is because when a belt is fitted you set the belt tension to the correct amount, as the miles stack up the belt slackens off a little, so new belt on at the right tension on the belt and there is now a water pump bearing under pressure again, also if a pump has already done 60k your dreaming if you think it will do another 60k without problems


....Thanks, I now remember that being a reason.  :drinking: