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Title: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 08:44:22 am

Just requested my f.o.c Infinity upgrade to the new max speed of 76mb down and 20mb up.  :happy2:  Should all be sorted in about 3 days, I'll confirm what speeds i get once it's all done. :happy2:

Linky below for those on BT Infinity Option 2 (Unlimited downloads), additional charge for those on the 40GB limit package.  Takes about 1 minute to request the upgrade, does a line check and gives you a new speed estimate.

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=29280 (http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=29280)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on April 23, 2012, 08:59:57 am
58 down and 20 up for me.

Ta for the heads up. :-)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 09:10:09 am
58 down and 20 up for me.

Ta for the heads up. :-)

No worries, caught one of their adverts last night and thought it best to check, they aren't exactly shouting about the free upgrade.
Forecasting 61 down and 20 up for me.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on April 23, 2012, 11:11:14 am
Good news! We predict your download speed will now be 70Mb/s and your upload speed will now be 20Mb/s

:pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 11:13:57 am
Good news! We predict your download speed will now be 70Mb/s and your upload speed will now be 20Mb/s

:pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:

Got to be happy with that. :happy2:  Seems like competition in the Broadband market is finally getting going with the benefits for the consumer
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on April 23, 2012, 11:15:03 am
I'm happy. Just hope they don't want me to pay for it as well.  :wink:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on April 23, 2012, 12:41:55 pm
Still umming and ahhing about doing this. The phone socket near the pooter isn't the master socket and is behind some cupboards, too, so a right PITA to get at.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Top Cat on April 23, 2012, 12:44:54 pm
My area isn't even on the 2013 list.  :sad1:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 23, 2012, 01:02:41 pm

Just requested my f.o.c Infinity upgrade to the new max speed of 76mb down and 20mb up.  :happy2:  Should all be sorted in about 3 days, I'll confirm what speeds i get once it's all done. :happy2:

WTF!!!

this is mine.  this is the fastest you can get it where i live.  Thinking of going 3G instead

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1910637909.png&hash=68424100b674fc379557bf6faba691e55e746bc0) (http://www.speedtest.net)
 :sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 01:33:36 pm
Still umming and ahhing about doing this. The phone socket near the pooter isn't the master socket and is behind some cupboards, too, so a right PITA to get at.

IIRC  The Openreach engineer can move the master socket for you if required when they come to do the installation.  The alternative would be to buy a pair of these http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=433 (http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=433) then you can push the connection anywhere in the house.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 01:35:18 pm

WTF!!!

this is mine.  this is the fastest you can get it where i live.  Thinking of going 3G instead

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1910637909.png&hash=68424100b674fc379557bf6faba691e55e746bc0) (http://www.speedtest.net)
 :sick: :sick: :sick:


Grade F+ slower than 81% of GB - Sounds like one of my old school reports  :laugh:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Greeners on April 23, 2012, 01:38:10 pm

Just requested my f.o.c Infinity upgrade to the new max speed of 76mb down and 20mb up.  :happy2:  Should all be sorted in about 3 days, I'll confirm what speeds i get once it's all done. :happy2:

WTF!!!

this is mine.  this is the fastest you can get it where i live.  Thinking of going 3G instead

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1910637909.png&hash=68424100b674fc379557bf6faba691e55e746bc0) (http://www.speedtest.net)
 :sick: :sick: :sick:


Your lucky, thats nearly double my fastest speed!!  :sad1:

Infinity is coming to my exchange in June though!  :party:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 01:43:13 pm

Your lucky, thats nearly double my fastest speed!!  :sad1:

Infinity is coming to my exchange in June though!  :party:

Best get yourself a new pot of hand cream before June  :signLOL:  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hurdy on April 23, 2012, 01:58:34 pm
Just moved to high speed broadband in my area, before I was getting 1.1meg max download and 0.4meg upload :sick: and getting thrown off the net every 20-30mins! :fighting:

Now I'm getting 43meg download and 13meg upload :jumpmove: and they are doubling this at the end of this month! :party:

It was like moving out of the dark ages! :signLOL:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: skard on April 23, 2012, 02:14:48 pm
Here's me thinking my 8M down 1M up being inadequate  :surprised:
Apparently getting my exchange activated by the end of June. Not sure who to go with as BT are expensive and I'm happy with O2 but they aren't making any signs of signing up for it.

Then again, makes a nice change from my 14.4K modem on the old Apple Mac Performa. It shows how lucky yet dependant we've become very quickly :grin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on April 23, 2012, 02:20:11 pm


 :signLOL:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on April 23, 2012, 02:29:21 pm
Still umming and ahhing about doing this. The phone socket near the pooter isn't the master socket and is behind some cupboards, too, so a right PITA to get at.

IIRC  The Openreach engineer can move the master socket for you if required when they come to do the installation.  The alternative would be to buy a pair of these http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=433 (http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=433) then you can push the connection anywhere in the house.

My neighbour is an OpenReach engineer and I was gonna ask him about it, but I've annoyingly forgotten his name!

I'm getting 7Mb down at the moment, which I find perfectly adequate, but my upload speed is only 0.3. That is the annoying bit...
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 23, 2012, 02:30:03 pm
^^^^^^  Some of the younger member's of the forum won't know what that is Rich, brings out the 4 Yorkshiremen sketch in me.

You try and tell the young folk that's what it was like gettin' on T'internet, and they won't believe you.....

Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: skard on April 23, 2012, 02:30:58 pm
I'll be Going Postal after hearing that noise again!!!

I had a PC with a 'soft' modem and only 64MB of RAM thus I kept getting booted when there was no system RAM available - for a year I would hear that f'ing noise every few minutes!!! Then I bought a hardware modem and got happy.

<Twitch>
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on April 25, 2012, 03:53:45 pm
Yay, all up and running on Infinity 2  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1914937410.png&hash=0fc734d730fa86362dc5f48c1ddbcc67a889143c) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Poppa Dom on April 25, 2012, 04:04:35 pm
Currently what I have at work, network is underload at moment too

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1914964308.png&hash=dd0b67bac5d50aca501193d97ecbfb9a38fe2c31) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hurdy on April 25, 2012, 04:44:21 pm
Currently what I have at work, network is underload at moment too

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1914964308.png&hash=dd0b67bac5d50aca501193d97ecbfb9a38fe2c31) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Now that's fast broadband!! :surprised:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Poppa Dom on April 25, 2012, 05:26:01 pm
Best I have had is 92 mbit up and down  :happy2:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on April 25, 2012, 06:53:33 pm
Currently what I have at work, network is underload at moment too

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1914964308.png&hash=dd0b67bac5d50aca501193d97ecbfb9a38fe2c31) (http://www.speedtest.net)

It's a shame I can't do one from the right place as we are Gigabit to the Internet.  :wink:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hurdy on April 25, 2012, 08:07:54 pm
Currently what I have at work, network is underload at moment too

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1914964308.png&hash=dd0b67bac5d50aca501193d97ecbfb9a38fe2c31) (http://www.speedtest.net)

It's a shame I can't do one from the right place as we are Gigabit to the Internet.  :wink:

I'd heard that there are a few gigabit providers about, but thought that they were just testing six areas?
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on April 25, 2012, 08:59:04 pm
Ah but I work in the offices of an ISP.

My home connection.  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1915515284.png&hash=35457f47e91f3d0fed11035f124d73afce98ba31)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on April 28, 2012, 08:59:55 am
Seems to be a bit quicker but nothing major, but I've not paid anything so I'm no complaining.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1920139670.png&hash=f93ab37bbc4fe2d142d8c330f1ada1e93dad12eb)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: vRS Carl on April 28, 2012, 09:15:51 am
I'll see your poxy 78Mb and raise you  :P :P

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1920158098.png&hash=9e1b91c1bbfb0f8377e3518959c7c65fec28b550) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Poppa Dom on April 28, 2012, 10:13:21 am
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on April 28, 2012, 11:34:48 am
I'll see your poxy 78Mb and raise you  :P :P

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1920158098.png&hash=9e1b91c1bbfb0f8377e3518959c7c65fec28b550) (http://www.speedtest.net)

How's the tendinitis Carl?? :-))
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: vRS Carl on April 28, 2012, 01:09:54 pm
I have Stronger wrists than Thor these days.  :grin:

Full HD streaming porn FTMFW :evilgrin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on April 28, 2012, 01:15:30 pm
.... and glasses that would make Mr Magoo's look wafer thin.  :wink:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: SteveS on April 30, 2012, 10:53:31 am
extra year??? pfff,
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Little_Dave on April 30, 2012, 06:58:17 pm
Checked mine and it wont get any better than 40mb download which i have now as im on the 400gb allowance chioce 1 but will improve my upload to 10mb.......... extra year contract makes me wonder if i need 10mb upload over whatever it is now  :fighting2:

Dave
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on April 30, 2012, 09:23:38 pm
Ordered!

Engineer is coming May 10th. Hope he willl enjoy the surprise of me telling him I want the master socket moved... :evilgrin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: johnhol78 on May 02, 2012, 07:29:01 am
Got mine about 2 weeks ago....Full speed upgrade and now downloading from newsgroups as 8.5mb/s. Just glad I left Virgin - may have 100neg though they are horrific for customer service
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on May 02, 2012, 09:32:54 am
Ordered!

Engineer is coming May 10th. Hope he willl enjoy the surprise of me telling him I want the master socket moved... :evilgrin:

JUst make em a brew when they first arrive, i find that works wonders, treat folks as you like to be treated and they'll go the extra mile for you.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 02, 2012, 11:12:52 am
I've read up on it and it's an easy job as long as the extension is wired with cable that has an extra pair in it. I haven't checked, but the most commonly used telecom cable has 3 or 4 pairs in it, so I'm keeping everything crossed! There's not a single socket in the house without a piece of furniture in front of it, which is why I'm leaving it to chance...
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on May 02, 2012, 11:18:37 am
Luckily i connected all the phone sockets up correctly (4 wires) otherwise that would have been a lot of carpet and laminate to rip up.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on May 02, 2012, 11:23:55 am
You only need 3 wires.  :confused:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on May 02, 2012, 11:25:02 am
You only need 3 wires.  :confused:

I thought you needed 2 pairs... 2 for phone and 2 for Infinity?  :stupid:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 02, 2012, 11:30:42 am
It's 2 wires for both actually. The orange/white ones date back to the old pulse dialling system and are no longer used. They can actually cause a little interference and some knowledgable folk recommend disconnecting them altogether.

 http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on May 02, 2012, 11:34:47 am
But you are talking about internal wiring. You only get 2 from the street.  :wink:

The filter in the box taps off ADSL signal and gives it to the Huawei box.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on May 02, 2012, 11:37:05 am
It's 2 wires for both actually. The orange/white ones date back to the old pulse dialling system and are no longer used. They can actually cause a little interference and some knowledgable folk recommend disconnecting them altogether.

 http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm

My Infinity runs off an extension socket upstairs.

2 wires into the house

4 wires into every extension socket

Infinity socket (in 2nd bedroom) uses 2 of the 4 wires and leaves 2 wires for the normal telephone socket.

Thats what the chap told me... unless i misunderstood.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on May 02, 2012, 12:44:45 pm
My understanding of it is 2 from the street into Master socket. You then get filters applied which leaves you 2 for the phone and the 2 for the data. Assuming you then extend all 4 wires then no problem.

In the good old days though you needed to extend an extra wire from the Master to allow your extensions to ring.

Guess that's changed these days.  :smiley:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: rich83 on May 02, 2012, 01:59:14 pm
My understanding of it is 2 from the street into Master socket. You then get filters applied which leaves you 2 for the phone and the 2 for the data. Assuming you then extend all 4 wires then no problem.

In the good old days though you needed to extend an extra wire from the Master to allow your extensions to ring.

Guess that's changed these days.  :smiley:

I presume thats all part of the new master socket faceplate? Although he did start saying something about capacitors in the extension sockets... but is turned off by that point.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 02, 2012, 03:19:14 pm
I thought it was 2 wires and the little filter you plugged in sorted phone from data. That's how it worked with broadband ordinaire anyways. Sounds like Infinity is split at the master and then uses 2 different pins from the phone line, hence the requirement for the extra cores if running off an extension?

I'll have to get the lowdown next week!
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 10, 2012, 01:33:58 pm
Yay!  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1942824830.png&hash=027ce2305ccdbf455ca56be6131edadbc90179ca)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2012, 02:07:37 pm
nice one, :happy2:

And did the nice Mann from openreach put your master socket in your preferred location?
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: vRS Carl on May 10, 2012, 02:13:21 pm
And did the nice Mann from openreach put his master socket in your preferred location?

 :surprised: :surprised:

I didn't know BT offered those sorts of services   :confused: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Saintsteve on May 10, 2012, 02:24:17 pm
My understanding of it is 2 from the street into Master socket. You then get filters applied which leaves you 2 for the phone and the 2 for the data. Assuming you then extend all 4 wires then no problem.

In the good old days though you needed to extend an extra wire from the Master to allow your extensions to ring.

Guess that's changed these days.  :smiley:

As long as your using 8 core wrapped cable, you won't experience slower speeds if your using an extension cable from your master socket.

Infinity doesnt use micro filters btw Ian if that's what you were referring too?
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 10, 2012, 02:48:47 pm
nice one, :happy2:

And did the nice Mann from openreach put your master socket in your preferred location?

Yup, only took him a few minutes. He told me he's done nothing other than Infinity installations for the last year and averages 5 a day.

Could've done with a beefy chap like yourself actually, to help put the furniture back afterwards. IKEA office furniture is definitely built to last and I have arms made of jelly at the moment! Slightly annoying is the thickness of the new socket means the cabinet I took apart is now about a cm further out than the one next to it and the other one is so heavy I can't move it.  :ashamed:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: vRS Carl on May 10, 2012, 02:49:57 pm
Take the other one apart and then rebuild it 1cm further forwards - Simples  :grin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 10, 2012, 02:52:49 pm
Actually, now I look again, they're level at the top, but not the bottom, so I guess I have a bit of lean somewhere!
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: vRS Carl on May 10, 2012, 02:59:21 pm
Dismantle the house, level the foundations and then rebuild  :happy2:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on May 10, 2012, 03:12:11 pm
I'm suddenly getting used to liking the cabinets like that, but I'll keep your suggestion in mind...  :grin:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on May 10, 2012, 04:08:06 pm

Infinity doesnt use micro filters btw Ian if that's what you were referring too?

No I wasn't Steve.  :confused:

Found this if it helps Steve from another forum.  :happy2:

Quote
Correct, the physical cable coming into the house has multiple pairs in the event you want additional lines etc, but a single phone line only uses one single pair.

When you get Infinity installed the same single pair your phone line uses is required. Infinity is just VDSL which as the name suggests is just another form of DSL so it works by using unused frequencies on the phone line that are not required for the voice service. The faceplate BT fit on is simply just a filter but it's neatly integrated into the socket. It's nothing special, no other pairs are wired up. In fact, I'm sure even regular ADSL filters will still work for VDSL as I have seen a couple of VDSL installations with the original BT engineer installed 2001-era faceplates left on and it works fine.

When I had Infinity installed, the tech just took off my standard BT only faceplate, put the new VDSL faceplate on and that was it. Just unscrewed the old and screwed on the new. No wires were involved whatsoever because I have no extension wiring.

They used to do exactly the same back in the early ADSL days too. When I first got ADSL installed back in 2001 it was engineer installation only and BT charged £150 for the privilege. A year or two after they allowed users to do the self-install with plug in filters. I imagine this will happen for VDSL eventually also, just while it's a new product they want to be sure everything is ok.

As already mentioned, if you don't have a standard BT socket they should fit one and it shouldn't cost you any extra. Worst case scenario is that they should fit in a data extension kit (nothing more than an unfiltered data socket for VDSL only) and piggyback this as an extension off your current master.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Saintsteve on May 10, 2012, 04:35:22 pm

Infinity doesnt use micro filters btw Ian if that's what you were referring too?

No I wasn't Steve.  :confused:

Found this if it helps Steve from another forum.  :happy2:

Quote
Correct, the physical cable coming into the house has multiple pairs in the event you want additional lines etc, but a single phone line only uses one single pair.

When you get Infinity installed the same single pair your phone line uses is required. Infinity is just VDSL which as the name suggests is just another form of DSL so it works by using unused frequencies on the phone line that are not required for the voice service. The faceplate BT fit on is simply just a filter but it's neatly integrated into the socket. It's nothing special, no other pairs are wired up. In fact, I'm sure even regular ADSL filters will still work for VDSL as I have seen a couple of VDSL installations with the original BT engineer installed 2001-era faceplates left on and it works fine.

When I had Infinity installed, the tech just took off my standard BT only faceplate, put the new VDSL faceplate on and that was it. Just unscrewed the old and screwed on the new. No wires were involved whatsoever because I have no extension wiring.

They used to do exactly the same back in the early ADSL days too. When I first got ADSL installed back in 2001 it was engineer installation only and BT charged £150 for the privilege. A year or two after they allowed users to do the self-install with plug in filters. I imagine this will happen for VDSL eventually also, just while it's a new product they want to be sure everything is ok.

As already mentioned, if you don't have a standard BT socket they should fit one and it shouldn't cost you any extra. Worst case scenario is that they should fit in a data extension kit (nothing more than an unfiltered data socket for VDSL only) and piggyback this as an extension off your current master.
Cheers Ian, but I already knew that  :happy2:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on May 10, 2012, 04:39:36 pm

Cheers Ian, but I already knew that  :happy2:

Glad to hear it.  :happy2:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Greeners on June 08, 2012, 08:18:45 pm
Just ordered my Infinity at last!!

Goodbye 0.96mgps!!  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on June 08, 2012, 08:39:20 pm
Some of this then Tiger.  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedtest.net%2Fresult%2F1997988789.png&hash=661f24f37148adb5c7444f5a8b99e37f996d0ec6)
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: SteveP on June 08, 2012, 08:51:40 pm
That's not fast, this is fast  :laugh: :laugh:

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Just a shame my connection at home isn't quite as good

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Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Greeners on June 08, 2012, 08:57:15 pm
Some of this then Tiger.  :wink:

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Should get around 40mb/s which will be immense!!  :party:

Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on June 08, 2012, 09:31:08 pm
Yay!  :laugh:

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I now only get half this speed.  :confused:

I guess the more peeps sign up, the slower it gets...??

Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on June 08, 2012, 10:06:26 pm
No I'm on Infinity 2 Simon.  :P

That's not fast, this is fast  :laugh: :laugh:

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Lucky for you I can't do a proper one from work as we have Gigabit links into t'internet. I think Speedtest.net would cack itself.  :wink:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: SteveP on June 08, 2012, 10:13:25 pm
So do we but throttled to 200mb for the desktops :sad1:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on June 08, 2012, 10:17:23 pm
No I'm on Infinity 2 Simon.  :P

So am I! I'm on the "up to 76MB" package and was obviously rather pleased when it was 74MB. Now only getting around 37...
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: Hedge on June 08, 2012, 10:24:41 pm
No I'm on Infinity 2 Simon.  :P

So am I! I'm on the "up to 76MB" package and was obviously rather pleased when it was 74MB. Now only getting around 37...

Oh well never mind eh....  :laugh:

These things do get faster. If it doesn't then ring up and speak with the nice man in India.  :happy2:
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: simonp on June 08, 2012, 10:33:28 pm
They'll actually be able to help now I have a Home Hub connected to the pooter. They hung up last time I phoned and had to explain that I couldn't just get it out of the bin and that some men in a lorry had taken it away some time ago!
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: keith on June 09, 2012, 10:23:58 pm
I saw the future of infinity on trail a few weeks back and they pushed it over 100meg test showed 120m which I was surprised about :congrats: if they could just get their finger out and and roll out the other infinty quicker.
Title: Re: BT Infinity is getting even faster! Free upgrade if you're on Unlimited option
Post by: vRS Carl on June 17, 2012, 05:02:54 pm
I'm on my last 3 days of Vermin 100mb BB. After that i will be back on pauperband with a measly 2Mb and no plans to upgrade my area to infinity for the foreseeable future :sad1:

Cnuts.  :fighting: I think i'm going to have to "persuade" a BT Exec to move into my street   :evilgrin: