MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Ciaran on April 24, 2012, 10:28:01 pm
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I have owned a total of 4 golfs now, mk2 16v, mk3 VR6, mk5 GT TDI, and my current Mk5 gti.
I also have an impreza as a Weekend toy so car would stay standardish
I loved the sound of my VR6 and the GTI is a bit dull noise wise.
Is it worth buying an R32 mk5 for the noise?
FWD also does my head in as the car under steers and spins the wheels all the time
Just bought a set of BBS 19s so will have to stick with a golf given the price of them :sick:
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Give me strength! :rolleye:
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Give me strength! :rolleye:
Give me an R32 at this rate... :rolleye:
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Sell the Jap c**p, buy R32 or ED30 and turn GTI into track weapon (your new "weekend toy"). Which BBS wheels have you got BTW (any pics), you could always sell them to another forum member :party: :party: :party:
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To be fair I did do a search before asking but the search function is rather poop :P
Jap crap...... Take it nobody who says that has owned or even driven a 500bhp caged impreza on track?
It would run rings round any fwd German barge no matter how much money one spent.
I have both leave out the whole jap crap. I have a mk5 gti as a daily because it is good as a daily car.
I have a caged impreza as a track car because it's good as a track car END OF :booty:
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We need like buttons on posts
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To be fair I did do a search before asking but the search function is rather poop :P
Jap crap...... Take it nobody who says that has owned or even driven a 500bhp caged impreza on track?
It would run rings round any fwd German barge no matter how much money one spent.
That does not surprise me, 4WD against FWD erm...
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I have a caged impreza as a track car because it's good as a track car END OFF :booty:
Did you Mean END OF? or is there a sentence missing? :grin:
Oh and R32's are dog poop :signLOL:
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To be fair I did do a search before asking but the search function is rather poop :P
Jap crap...... Take it nobody who says that has owned or even driven a 500bhp caged impreza on track?
It would run rings round any fwd German barge no matter how much money one spent.
That does not surprise me, 4WD against FWD erm...
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I have a caged impreza as a track car because it's good as a track car END OFF :booty:
Corrected bloody auto correct on this stupid iPad :ashamed:
I will reword it then, should I change my daily hack from a GTI to an R32?
I know how you boys feel with people asking the same questions all the time.
It's like people "what dump valve is best for my impreza?" if I have heard that once I have heard it a million times :sad1:
Did you Mean END OF? or is there a sentence missing? :grin:
Oh and R32's are dog poop :signLOL:
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Personally I wouldn't swap a Gti to a R32, but that's a choice more reflective on 6 pots drinking more than a 4 pot.
In terms of noise a 3.2 V6 will clearly sound much better.
The Impreza sounds like a nice bit of kit. Bet that plays a good tune.
Fairly obviously the choice probably comes down to running costs and the price to swap I'd say. That said it's a nice dilemma..
Enjoy whatever route you decide.
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To be fair I did do a search before asking but the search function is rather poop :P
Jap crap...... Take it nobody who says that has owned or even driven a 500bhp caged impreza on track?
It would run rings round any fwd German barge no matter how much money one spent.
I have both leave out the whole jap crap. I have a mk5 gti as a daily because it is good as a daily car.
I have a caged impreza as a track car because it's good as a track car END OF :booty:
Your right jap cars are MENTAL when it comes to tuning :driver:
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Not too many people on here would recommend selling a Mk5 GTi for a R32 (The clue is in the name of the Forum).
There have been a lot of discussions on this recently but the general response seems to be that if you want the noise that badly, get the R32, but if you want something with reasonable economy, is infinately more tunable and more fun to drive, stick with the GTi or get an Ed30.
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Really need 500 donkeys though to get away quick style when someone spots you driving one. Soooorry to dis but a 200-300 bhp 'german barge' may not be as quick buuuut you can drive one with your head held high and not be frowned on by people thinking your an obnoxious boy racer or a drug dealer. Not to mention the 80s styling and iffy build quality :sick:
Quality over quantity. In my opinion... Tell 'er in doors this all the time.
Back to the question though. Other than exhaust note n wet traction the GTI trounces the R32 in everyway. And like you said youve got a scoob which is no doubt noisey so why waste your hard earned rupees on something that is less tuneable, not as fun to drive a hell of alot more expensive to buy, run and tax n cos of its bad rep will prob have to fork again for a tracker when some tit decides hes gona take it for a spin while your pushing Zzzzz's out.
My 50p's worth.
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To be fair I did do a search before asking but the search function is rather poop :P
The search function works perfectly well, you just have to think about how people might have titled a thread etc. don't give up after one search and take the easy way out and do a new topic. There have been what feels like a gazillion threads on "Should i buy an R32" recently normally followed by the same idiot individual posting about how much they spend on fuel.
In fact F**k it i'll go an buy an R32 as well see you over on R32OC :happy2:
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the r32 is better than the gti its as simple as that. however when you factor in runing costs and the fact it is not as tunable it loses some of its appeal.
the fact is you already have a track toy so want something as a daily... in std form the R32 is the quickest and most capable of the bunch. Factor in the little extras such a 'proper' sounding engine, xenons as std, 18" wheels std, blue glass, all-weather-capability and you have one of the best dailys out there. The gti is a compromise as far as I am concerned... but as stated above, evenyone on here presents a well balanced argument :signLOL:
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Yes... do it..... but don't come back here in a few weeks time because your bored of the power. :happy2:
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
an Ed30? which looks even more similar, has an even more negligible daily performance gain and costs even more than £3k to swap?
you didn't really think that thru did you...
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
an Ed30? which looks even more similar, has an even more negligible daily performance gain and costs even more than £3k to swap?
you didn't really think that thru did you...
Except that for £400 you can have 290-300bhp and that would seriosuly outperform the R32 in all but monsoon conditions.
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Actually didn't think about it at all as it was done a bit " Tongue in cheek" as i happen to own an Edition 30 and put a " :innocent: " at the end of the post
To subtle ?
and the same as Tamiyoman......its got 300bhp for an extra £300 spent .......you really didn't think your post through did you Sub ? :evilgrin:
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Why don't you go to a dealership and test drive a r32 and see what you think or how you feel, someone already mentioned here that you will end up spending more on it because of the fuel - if you want a true daily thats practical maybe stick with the gti or even get diesel with a map. *Shrugs* its personal opinion when deciding on a daily car - some people want performance, some want economy, some want small hatch for parking others want a saloon for long journeys.
Really need 500 donkeys though to get away quick style when someone spots you driving one. Soooorry to dis but a 200-300 bhp 'german barge' may not be as quick buuuut you can drive one with your head held high and not be frowned on by people thinking your an obnoxious boy racer or a drug dealer. Not to mention the 80s styling and iffy build quality :sick:
Quality over quantity.
My 50p's worth.
imho I think your a bit wrong - your forgetting Subaru are built for performance and not luxury and they are a damn good build at that - their engines are just as if not more bullet proof than ours if you consider how much bhp they can push out with little effort and the latest wrx and sti (2012) is a very nice bit of kit with refined interior and body and stylish features.
And theres nothing to say that when people see someone in a gti thats lowered, has alloys and a louder than normal exhaust they dont think "boy racer drug dealer" that's just the perception of people who are not into the car tuning scene.
Although I do agree with you with regards to the price and cost of running and owning a r32 all three things do weigh up against the gti :happy2:
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I Love......Lamp? :ashamed:
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
an Ed30? which looks even more similar, has an even more negligible daily performance gain and costs even more than £3k to swap?
you didn't really think that thru did you...
Except that for £400 you can have 290-300bhp and that would seriosuly outperform the R32 in all but monsoon conditions.
we're not talking about tuned cars tho
why not buy a 2nd hand A3 3.2 quattro for £7k, put a big turbo on it and d*ck all over a Stage 1 Ed30 then? how far do you want to take it?
clearly garrardrj's comments were comparing the standard cars against each other and hence made no sense whatsoever. if not your mention of £3k is wrong if you're having to spend more money on a tune. i'd like to see a GTI + £2.7k get swapped for an Ed30 and then have £300 left over for a tune (and let's ignore for a second that for that kind of power you'd need money for brakes and suspension)
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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i meant the 8P shape, but thanks for the input lol :happy2:
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Nice wheels :happy2:
Exhaust looks poo :booty:
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
1 word... WOW!!
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
1 word... WOW!!
Impressive... The impreza does that and goes around corners as well. 0-100 in under 10 seconds.... Till the engine broke :(
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
an Ed30? which looks even more similar, has an even more negligible daily performance gain and costs even more than £3k to swap?
you didn't really think that thru did you...
Except that for £400 you can have 290-300bhp and that would seriosuly outperform the R32 in all but monsoon conditions.
we're not talking about tuned cars tho
why not buy a 2nd hand A3 3.2 quattro for £7k, put a big turbo on it and d*ck all over a Stage 1 Ed30 then? how far do you want to take it?
I think he said he wants a VW on his drive, not a Golf in a Fur Coat :happy2:
clearly garrardrj's comments were comparing the standard cars against each other and hence made no sense whatsoever. if not your mention of £3k is wrong if you're having to spend more money on a tune. i'd like to see a GTI + £2.7k get swapped for an Ed30 and then have £300 left over for a tune (and let's ignore for a second that for that kind of power you'd need money for brakes and suspension)
ED30's have started to drop below 10K regularly, even seen higher mileage (NON cat D) cars going for 9K, so unless his GTI is worth less than £7k, he will have enuff money. :happy2:
Do you "Need" uprated brakes and suspension for a Road car?, or is it "Needed" for a car if you plan on track days in it, just coz my ED30 will have 300hp compared to 230hp does not mean I will be attacking roundabouts faster or sweeping bends quicker, it just means I get up to speed quicker, I still allow safe distances for braking. Uprated brakes required=NO, preferred? possibly yes.
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
an Ed30? which looks even more similar, has an even more negligible daily performance gain and costs even more than £3k to swap?
you didn't really think that thru did you...
Except that for £400 you can have 290-300bhp and that would seriosuly outperform the R32 in all but monsoon conditions.
we're not talking about tuned cars tho
why not buy a 2nd hand A3 3.2 quattro for £7k, put a big turbo on it and d*ck all over a Stage 1 Ed30 then? how far do you want to take it?
I think he said he wants a VW on his drive, not a Golf in a Fur Coat :happy2:
clearly garrardrj's comments were comparing the standard cars against each other and hence made no sense whatsoever. if not your mention of £3k is wrong if you're having to spend more money on a tune. i'd like to see a GTI + £2.7k get swapped for an Ed30 and then have £300 left over for a tune (and let's ignore for a second that for that kind of power you'd need money for brakes and suspension)
ED30's have started to drop below 10K regularly, even seen higher mileage (NON cat D) cars going for 9K, so unless his GTI is worth less than £7k, he will have enuff money. :happy2:
Do you "Need" uprated brakes and suspension for a Road car?, or is it "Needed" for a car if you plan on track days in it, just coz my ED30 will have 300hp compared to 230hp does not mean I will be attacking roundabouts faster or sweeping bends quicker, it just means I get up to speed quicker, I still allow safe distances for braking. Uprated brakes required=NO, preferred? possibly yes.
OP asked if he should get an R32 over his GTI
garrardrj then said no, get an Ed30 because the R32 is too similar :stupid:
if you can't agree that's a daft statement to make then that's your problem really!
you can argue all you like about throwing even more money at the car to make it better than the R32, but that is not what the OP is asking, nor what i was trying to say when i think that it's ridiculous to suggest a (standard) Ed30 over a (standard) R32 as a replacement to the GTI on grounds of similarity.
now, none of this is helping the OP. so on that basis, i'm out.
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To Change a GTI to a R32 seems a bit pointless as an every day car. It would cost you more to run and as an every day car the performance would be negligible.
They also both look virtually the same on the inside so you would only see the difference when it was parked in the drive. For another £3k plus ! No thanks :innocent:
Now if you were changing to and Edition 30 that would be different :innocent:
an Ed30? which looks even more similar, has an even more negligible daily performance gain and costs even more than £3k to swap?
you didn't really think that thru did you...
Except that for £400 you can have 290-300bhp and that would seriosuly outperform the R32 in all but monsoon conditions.
we're not talking about tuned cars tho
why not buy a 2nd hand A3 3.2 quattro for £7k, put a big turbo on it and d*ck all over a Stage 1 Ed30 then? how far do you want to take it?
I think he said he wants a VW on his drive, not a Golf in a Fur Coat :happy2:
clearly garrardrj's comments were comparing the standard cars against each other and hence made no sense whatsoever. if not your mention of £3k is wrong if you're having to spend more money on a tune. i'd like to see a GTI + £2.7k get swapped for an Ed30 and then have £300 left over for a tune (and let's ignore for a second that for that kind of power you'd need money for brakes and suspension)
ED30's have started to drop below 10K regularly, even seen higher mileage (NON cat D) cars going for 9K, so unless his GTI is worth less than £7k, he will have enuff money. :happy2:
Do you "Need" uprated brakes and suspension for a Road car?, or is it "Needed" for a car if you plan on track days in it, just coz my ED30 will have 300hp compared to 230hp does not mean I will be attacking roundabouts faster or sweeping bends quicker, it just means I get up to speed quicker, I still allow safe distances for braking. Uprated brakes required=NO, preferred? possibly yes.
OP asked if he should get an R32 over his GTI
garrardrj then said no, get an Ed30 because the R32 is too similar :stupid:
if you can't agree that's a daft statement to make then that's your problem really!
you can argue all you like about throwing even more money at the car to make it better than the R32, but that is not what the OP is asking, nor what i was trying to say when i think that it's ridiculous to suggest a (standard) Ed30 over a (standard) R32 as a replacement to the GTI on grounds of similarity.
now, none of this is helping the OP. so on that basis, i'm out.
I am the owner of an Ed30 and hence my post. I do not seen anny difference really in all three R32/GTI/ED30. They are all MK5 Golfs not ferraris !
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Id love an R32 , but I couldnt face being raped for £450 every year for road tax!
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Mate,go for it,you wont regret it at all.....
You obviously have evolved from a 4 pot... :signLOL:
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Just stick a decat non res exhaust and map on the gti, sound will change immensely and you should get a decent enough power hike to pacify you at street level. Job done. :happy2:
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Oh ye and one word for this......epic......... :driver:
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Oh ye and one word for this......epic......... :driver:
Amazing.
To your question. Id sell the gti for a r32. I think too many are answering this question on their preference rathar than your situation.
You obviously dont need the car for speed and not short of a few quid to notice the fuel difference. R32 for the sound so I would do it if i was in your situation.
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you mean like this :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Oh ye and one word for this......epic......... :driver:
Amazing.
To your question. Id sell the gti for a r32. I think too many are answering this question on their preference rathar than your situation.
You obviously dont need the car for speed and not short of a few quid to notice the fuel difference. R32 for the sound so I would do it if i was in your situation.
Yes I am guilty of that, bottom line is they are both the same size and are pretty much matched in day to day performance, I had the choice of Both and decided on ED30 purely down to looks/tuneability and secondly running costs (not very important for me as I only do 3-4K per year).