MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Frenzy on April 25, 2012, 08:30:40 pm
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check out this vid on the beeb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17844171
made me lol, brilliant how they've edited the film so that the words don't fit the pictures :signLOL:
a spokesman for a water company banging on about drought saying how joe public has to take on the onus whilst they can charge willy nilly for stuff that falls out of the skyand they waste in the gallons when they show a complete lack of urgency to fix burst mains. :fighting:
discuss :popcornsoda:
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No hosepipe ban up here in South Yorkshire!
They bang on about the water table levels and how they are very low, but surely most of the water we use comes from the reserviors and they are all spilling over up here! :confused:
I know what you mean about wasting water through leaks. You can plainly see at least half a dozen leaks around us when the roads are dry....and they have been there for absolutely ages.
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No hosepipe ban up here in South Yorkshire!
They bang on about the water table levels and how they are very low, but surely most of the water we use comes from the reserviors and they are all spilling over up here! :confused:
I know what you mean about wasting water through leaks. You can plainly see at least half a dozen leaks around us when the roads are dry....and they have been there for absolutely ages.
Same here in Cheshire. Rain we have had today should keep everything topped up :grin:
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Not got one here either in Essex... Yet
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And in north Yorkshire
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We havent yet in Devon (i dont think anyway)
I pay water rates for our house and after southwest water told me it was the best part of £1000 a year i have decided they can f*ck themselfs if they think i will cut down on my water but still pay them a grand a year, they really grit my sh*t, thats like taking your car to the garage asking for a full service price being told its £180 you then say ok i just want the filters changed but dont bother checking the brakes and them saying its £180 and you say ok mate just do the filters and not the brakes, if they want me to use less then they can f*cking charge me less to make up for it, this f*cking country pisses me off at times
sorry rant over
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Ohh woopy doo for you lot with your "no hosepipe ban here" posts. Well here in Sussex we DO have the bloody hosepipe ban and yes I am adhering to it. Don't get me wrong, I would quite happily flout the ban but due to nosy neighbours and SWMBO there no chance. :booty:
This became a particular annoyance yesterday as the car really needed a good clean. Didn't realise just how much I used the pressure washer until it was out of use.
To top it all off Noah himself would be chuffed with the amount of wet stuff that fell from the heavens today (probably the wrong sort of rain though)!!
:happy2: :drinking:
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Ohh woopy doo for you lot with your "no hosepipe ban here" posts. Well here in Sussex we DO have the bloody hosepipe ban and yes I am adhering to it. Don't get me wrong, I would quite happily flout the ban but due to nosy neighbours and SWMBO there no chance. :booty:
This became a particular annoyance yesterday as the car really needed a good clean. Didn't realise just how much I used the pressure washer until it was out of use.
To top it all off Noah himself would be chuffed with the amount of wet stuff that fell from the heavens today (probably the wrong sort of rain though)!!
:happy2: :drinking:
well if it was me id be contacting my water company and informing them i want my water bill reduced in line with the fact i cant use the service im paying thro the nose for to the full amount, it takes the piss big time
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for the greater good i understand why they've had to introduce bans - if they didn't there wouldn't be enough to go around.
tbh i'd rather have a shower myself than give my car one. that can wait a week or two whereas i can't wait a week or two to bathe!
but i also think that if there are leaks, and they still introduce a ban you should have some of your rates back. if they can't be a*sed to fix them then they shouldn't be paid as much for the inconvenience
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We have a Hosepipe ban in Norfolk (or we did up until Monday anyway), I know we did not have rain here for the best part of 10 weeks, but for the last 2 weeks its done nothing but P155 down constantly, amazing how the garden has changed with 2 weeks of rain :grin:, now if it can just bugger off for another 10 weeks I might be able to get on the golf course at some point!
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apparently midlands is getting the ban soon dont think im stick with the rules
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Well the hosepipe ban is well and truly in effect in South East London, and will probably be here for ages yet, even though it's been battering it down for as long as I can remember :signLOL:
I decided that buying my 1st Karcher during the introduction of this ban was obviously not the best idea, and have had it now for over 2 weeks but haven't been able to use it. :confused:
I decided to fit a 210 litre water butt, and what do you know.........it filled up overnight :signLOL: it has rained non-stop since then, and I'm sure I could have filled up 1000's of more litres!!!
Anyway, the question I have is how much of this 210 litres would I use to wash my car, would it use it all??? :popcornsoda:
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We have a Hosepipe ban in Norfolk, but thats only because all the water we have here goes down to help those orange freaks in Essex shower after all the fake tanning :signLOL:
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Ohh woopy doo for you lot with your "no hosepipe ban here" posts. Well here in Sussex we DO have the bloody hosepipe ban and yes I am adhering to it. Don't get me wrong, I would quite happily flout the ban but due to nosy neighbours and SWMBO there no chance. :booty:
This became a particular annoyance yesterday as the car really needed a good clean. Didn't realise just how much I used the pressure washer until it was out of use.
To top it all off Noah himself would be chuffed with the amount of wet stuff that fell from the heavens today (probably the wrong sort of rain though)!!
:happy2: :drinking:
I think most pressure washers should work using a bucket as a water source. have you tried it?
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Well the hosepipe ban is well and truly in effect in South East London, and will probably be here for ages yet, even though it's been battering it down for as long as I can remember :signLOL:
I decided that buying my 1st Karcher during the introduction of this ban was obviously not the best idea, and have had it now for over 2 weeks but haven't been able to use it. :confused:
I decided to fit a 210 litre water butt, and what do you know.........it filled up overnight :signLOL: it has rained non-stop since then, and I'm sure I could have filled up 1000's of more litres!!!
Anyway, the question I have is how much of this 210 litres would I use to wash my car, would it use it all??? :popcornsoda:
Jussa - that Tank is more than enough, I wash my car with approx 1&1/2 bucket to soak, 1 bucket to snow foam, 1 bucket to hand wash and then about 2 buckets to rinse off with the karcher feeding directly from them so probably only about 25/30 litres if that?! If you need any help setting the thing up to feed from the tank just let me know :happy2:
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No hosepipe ban down here in coastal West Dorset and it's been raining hard and almost non-stop since yesterday morning. My WeatherPro App (always very accurate) forecasts rain continuing until Saturday and then rain again constantly until Tuesday!
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Well the hosepipe ban is well and truly in effect in South East London, and will probably be here for ages yet, even though it's been battering it down for as long as I can remember :signLOL:
I decided that buying my 1st Karcher during the introduction of this ban was obviously not the best idea, and have had it now for over 2 weeks but haven't been able to use it. :confused:
I decided to fit a 210 litre water butt, and what do you know.........it filled up overnight :signLOL: it has rained non-stop since then, and I'm sure I could have filled up 1000's of more litres!!!
Anyway, the question I have is how much of this 210 litres would I use to wash my car, would it use it all??? :popcornsoda:
Jussa - that Tank is more than enough, I wash my car with approx 1&1/2 bucket to soak, 1 bucket to snow foam, 1 bucket to hand wash and then about 2 buckets to rinse off with the karcher feeding directly from them so probably only about 25/30 litres if that?! If you need any help setting the thing up to feed from the tank just let me know :happy2:
Hi Matt, just ordered all my cleaning goodies from Elite car care, so when they arrive I'll give you a shout - never used the Karcher before, never mind a water butt as well :happy2:
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Meh
The fact that the hosepipe ban is in place makes no diffrence.
i used mine every week, watch them try and fine me and see what happens in court reguarding the fine, typical case of scare tactics they cant leagly inforce a fine, simlar to how private car parks try but cant enforce it by law
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Meh
The fact that the hosepipe ban is in place makes no diffrence.
i used mine every week, watch them try and fine me and see what happens in court reguarding the fine, typical case of scare tactics they cant leagly inforce a fine, simlar to how private car parks try but cant enforce it by law
....That's an interesting point - Has anyone in the UK actually been taken to court and fined under a hosepipe ban ruling?
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I don't think they have. It seems threat is enough.
As for water butts, fine but you need to ensure no debris gets into PW or you'll be spraying dirty water over your car. You can get filters that connect to the end. I'd advocate this even if the butt was kept indoors and had never been filled with rainwater.
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Meh
The fact that the hosepipe ban is in place makes no diffrence.
i used mine every week, watch them try and fine me and see what happens in court reguarding the fine, typical case of scare tactics they cant leagly inforce a fine, simlar to how private car parks try but cant enforce it by law
....That's an interesting point - Has anyone in the UK actually been taken to court and fined under a hosepipe ban ruling?
Technically, for the ban/fine to be issued a NOTICE is given/served. Now, technically, a notice is....well, a notice. Your not legally obliged to read, understand or comprehend a notice...well not yet anyway. That is sure to change soon. The way a notice is enforced is by way of threat coercison...a fine or punishment. Im sure we are all familiar with these notices 'PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS NOTICE' attached to our windscreens :scared:
Can I just point out, this is not legal advice, I just have a rather unhealthy interest in the subject of Law. :nerd:
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Meh
The fact that the hosepipe ban is in place makes no diffrence.
i used mine every week, watch them try and fine me and see what happens in court reguarding the fine, typical case of scare tactics they cant leagly inforce a fine, simlar to how private car parks try but cant enforce it by law
....That's an interesting point - Has anyone in the UK actually been taken to court and fined under a hosepipe ban ruling?
Can I just point out, this is not legal advice, I just have a rather unhealthy interest in the subject of Law. :nerd:
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i am currently studying law in my spare time with the open university and often enjoy advising people were i can purely to 'stick it to the man' half of the police in this country have not got a clue and make things up as they go, the problem being while the public are uneducated and scared of these fools, they will carry on unlawfully punishing people and sweeping it under the carpet :stupid:
power to the people is the best policy, if everybody used their hosepipes these idiots empty threats would be exposed.
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As I understand, a fine can only be ordered by a court.
I don't blame the whole Police service though - They are merely foot soldiers who are obliged to do as they are instructed and are uniformed Police the guys who are actually policing hosepipe bans? What letterhead does a Notice bear?
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I don't think they have. It seems threat is enough.
As for water butts, fine but you need to ensure no debris gets into PW or you'll be spraying dirty water over your car. You can get filters that connect to the end. I'd advocate this even if the butt was kept indoors and had never been filled with rainwater.
Where do you get these filters? :confused:
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I don't think they have. It seems threat is enough.
As for water butts, fine but you need to ensure no debris gets into PW or you'll be spraying dirty water over your car. You can get filters that connect to the end. I'd advocate this even if the butt was kept indoors and had never been filled with rainwater.
Where do you get these filters? :confused:
Ive used a pair of the wifes nylon pop-socks to filter any debris out going into the water-butt. one on the pipe where it connects to the down pipe and another inside the water butt where the water comes in. Cheap as chips. :signLOL:
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As I understand, a fine can only be ordered by a court.
I don't blame the whole Police service though - They are merely foot soldiers who are obliged to do as they are instructed and are uniformed Police the guys who are actually policing hosepipe bans? What letterhead does a Notice bear?
You'll get a letter first from the water company with threats of a fine. You'll have been reported by a good law abiding neighbour or they can tell by your usage if you on a water meter. It wont be the police knocking on your door. I think capital letters in any letterhead usually get peoples attention with regards to notices. Its just a play of words. I cant believe water companies can police everyones water meters and issue fines accordingly. A large amount of water used may be down to a water leak??? Playing on peoples fear is what they do best. :scared:
"The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as ONE."
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You'll get a letter first from the water company with threats of a fine. You'll have been reported by a good law abiding neighbour or they can tell by your usage if you on a water meter. It wont be the police knocking on your door. I think capital letters in any letterhead usually get peoples attention with regards to notices. Its just a play of words. I cant believe water companies can police everyones water meters and issue fines accordingly. A large amount of water used may be down to a water leak??? Playing on peoples fear is what they do best. :scared:
....I realise what you mean by the expression "law-abiding" but isn't it all advisory rather than law anyway?
I have had the experience of a water authority/supplier threaten very harshly to withdraw my supply, but I resisted. They were obliged to accept my paltry monthly repayment offer and were unable to challenge it.
Most folks have to pay for water but water supply cannot be cut off. There is no life without water!
There hasn't been a hosepipe ban in my neck of the woods within living memory but my attitude is that I would carry on regardless. I only use a hosepipe to wash my car and only when it gets dirty, so that's probably once every 4-6 weeks. It's only if water supply became so short that it was an emergency that I would agree to the advisory notice.
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You'll get a letter first from the water company with threats of a fine. You'll have been reported by a good law abiding neighbour or they can tell by your usage if you on a water meter. It wont be the police knocking on your door. I think capital letters in any letterhead usually get peoples attention with regards to notices. Its just a play of words. I cant believe water companies can police everyones water meters and issue fines accordingly. A large amount of water used may be down to a water leak??? Playing on peoples fear is what they do best. :scared:
....I realise what you mean by the expression "law-abiding" but isn't it all advisory rather than law anyway?
I have had the experience of a water authority/supplier threaten very harshly to withdraw my supply, but I resisted. They were obliged to accept my paltry monthly repayment offer and were unable to challenge it.
Most folks have to pay for water but water supply cannot be cut off. There is no life without water!
There hasn't been a hosepipe ban in my neck of the woods within living memory but my attitude is that I would carry on regardless. I only use a hosepipe to wash my car and only when it gets dirty, so that's probably once every 4-6 weeks. It's only if water supply became so short that it was an emergency that I would agree to the advisory notice.
I guess advisory is one angle you can look at it, yes. But contrary to popular belief, The Law is not Law. Its a set of rules, that accompany that what we already know not to do; commit harm,loss or injury or fraud, by way of primary or secondary legislation enacted by acts of parliament. We could break this down further but then it starts to get bit boring/ranty and starts challenging peoples belief systems. People are so insued by the system that they will fight to keep it in place.
Food for thought. Definition of Law, as it stands, "A given rule of society, by corporation of rule, enacted by primary and secondary legislation which given the force of law by consent of the governed"
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http://www.rainwaterharvesting.co.uk/filter-in-line.php
Lidl do one for £10 apparently.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=258649
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So its alright for a family of 5 to have a shower each every day yet a single bloke paying the same rates cannot wash his car?, I know what I would be telling them :evilgrin:
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I liked the argument on Jeremy vine the other week saying you can't fill up a paddling pool with a hose but you can with a bucket. Same with washing a car, watering the garden etc.
So it's not save water as you can still technically use it just not with a hose, so all the ban is doing is stopping lazy people using water as they can't be bothered to use buckets etc
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People wash your cars, they cannot fine you it is a bogus ploy.
I will be washing my on Sunday and I plan to use plenty of water through the course of the day