MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: bushypad on May 01, 2012, 12:36:22 am
Hi guys my mk5 golf gti is currently stage2+ and i wanted some advice on where to go next. Currently putting out 280-290bhp and i want more power! What is the next step as i am new to all this tuning stuff. I bought the car lile this! Would it be an uprated turbo ko4 with s3 intercooler and injectors? Hoe much does it all cost i have no idea.

This is currently what i have on the car;

GTI 05 plate
55,000 miles

It was tuned by Statller
Evoms Intake
Turbo boost 3inch exhaust
Autotech Fuel Pump
GIAC extreme software (Ko3)+stage 3 gearbox software

Tarox Brake Discs and pads
19 inch matte black pro race rims
Michellin pilot sport tyres






Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 01, 2012, 07:09:57 am
Time for a bigger turbo, yes?
Fueling is nearly max'd out now and so is your remap. Hardware is the only thing left for noticeable power additions. A K04 would fit right in with your existing mods.
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: bushypad on May 01, 2012, 10:08:56 am
 Thanks for the reply,How much do you think im looking at roughly for a good price ko4 turbo s3intercooler and injectors? I dont want to be overpaying!
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: mvb12 on May 01, 2012, 10:30:01 am
If you wanted more power than the K03 can do i would have bought a KO4.

me perseonally don't like the idea of switching engines around unless it was for a project car. but for my daily, that is out the question.

from what i've read, it seems it would have been better for you to of gone straight to a KO4 engine from standard due to the cost involved!

anyway good luck with the KO4 switch (if you go for it), maybe you could pop down to a meet 1 day  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Kregiel on May 01, 2012, 12:59:48 pm
Thanks for the reply,How much do you think im looking at roughly for a good price ko4 turbo s3intercooler and injectors? I dont want to be overpaying!

K04 and injectors you're looking at 1000 ish and IC could be got for 250ish I would say. There is one on sale in sales section at the moment

Paul
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Bazgti on May 01, 2012, 02:08:23 pm
What difference would an S3 intercooloer make over a standard GTI one?
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: ktlstar on May 01, 2012, 02:15:59 pm
No difference in terms of HP, but it helps keep the air temps down. Basically not having heat soak!
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Sammy on May 01, 2012, 02:29:24 pm
Thanks for the reply,How much do you think im looking at roughly for a good price ko4 turbo s3intercooler and injectors? I dont want to be overpaying!

K04 and injectors you're looking at 1000 ish and IC could be got for 250ish I would say. There is one on sale in sales section at the moment

Paul

1000 ish no way! In that case u are getting bumped! You can pick up good k04's for around £350-£450 and injectors from £100-£200, you will also need the parts needed to fit it such as diverter relocation etc
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: bushypad on May 01, 2012, 03:30:16 pm
Thanks for the reply,How much do you think im looking at roughly for a good price ko4 turbo s3intercooler and injectors? I dont want to be overpaying!

K04 and injectors you're looking at 1000 ish and IC could be got for 250ish I would say. There is one on sale in sales section at the moment

Paul


1000 ish no way! In that case u are getting bumped! You can pick up good k04's for around £350-£450 and injectors from £100-£200, you will also need the parts needed to fit it such as diverter relocation etc
Bloody hell that sounds cheap compared to what i was quoted. I called up statller and they said for a vw ko4 1400 injectors 170 and intercooler 400 and fitting 800! :0 where would be a good place to pick up a ko4?!
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Sammy on May 01, 2012, 03:56:49 pm
Ebay is the best place, some are high and some low, I so luckily grabbed a brand new from a 2011 plated car with only 9k miles for £350 which is a bargain and the only reason I actually went for k04!
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: bushypad on May 01, 2012, 04:40:06 pm
Ebay is the best place, some are high and some low, I so luckily grabbed a brand new from a 2011 plated car with only 9k miles for £350 which is a bargain and the only reason I actually went for k04!
  that sounds pretty good! What have you found are the pris and cons since you had it done? Interested in the cons!
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Top Cat on May 01, 2012, 04:47:16 pm
Ebay is the best place, some are high and some low, I so luckily grabbed a brand new from a 2011 plated car with only 9k miles for £350 which is a bargain and the only reason I actually went for k04!

What car was it off.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Jussa on May 01, 2012, 04:51:05 pm
I would also start looking at investing in a LSD and a new clutch, as you'll need them shortly afterwards!!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: tony_danza on May 01, 2012, 04:51:40 pm
Buy a faster car, or at least make sure you also set aside enough for a rebuild for when it blows up.  :grin:

Sometimes it pays to know when to stop  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Top Cat on May 01, 2012, 04:52:54 pm
Buy a faster car, or at least make sure you also set aside enough for a rebuild for when it blows up.  :grin:

Sometimes it pays to know when to stop  :happy2:

Pah! your getting boring, now your a Dad.  :indifferent:  :wink:
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Kregiel on May 01, 2012, 04:55:14 pm
Ebay is the best place, some are high and some low, I so luckily grabbed a brand new from a 2011 plated car with only 9k miles for £350 which is a bargain and the only reason I actually went for k04!

beware of not working K04 and injectors when buying without testing! Sometimes better to pay more from reliable source then go for a bargain and buy again! We all heard stories here
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: gazon69 on May 01, 2012, 04:55:47 pm
Thanks for the reply,How much do you think im looking at roughly for a good price ko4 turbo s3intercooler and injectors? I dont want to be overpaying!

K04 and injectors you're looking at 1000 ish and IC could be got for 250ish I would say. There is one on sale in sales section at the moment

Paul


1000 ish no way! In that case u are getting bumped! You can pick up good k04's for around £350-£450 and injectors from £100-£200, you will also need the parts needed to fit it such as diverter relocation etc
Bloody hell that sounds cheap compared to what i was quoted. I called up statller and they said for a vw ko4 1400 injectors 170 and intercooler 400 and fitting 800! :0 where would be a good place to pick up a ko4?!
Those prices look like brand new prices. Complete setup can be got for about £700-£800
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: tony_danza on May 01, 2012, 04:56:50 pm
Pah! your getting boring, now your a Dad.  :indifferent:  :wink:

Ha ha! You're probably right, but it's a rule I stuck to with my MKV and it served me very well.

Never do anything you can't reverse and never push the engine past what's sensible for the chassis.
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Sammy on May 01, 2012, 05:44:18 pm
Mine was from a audi S3 black edition, and of course i made sure it was fine, Also got my S3 intercooler for £90 delivered on ebay again another bargain although it is the plastic ends but just as new!
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: ROH ECHT on May 05, 2012, 04:48:42 am
Definitely go for a new turbo unless positive a slightly used one is OK.

and

did someone say you have to swap out the motor to get a K04?
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: skiddusmarkus on May 05, 2012, 09:14:45 am
Just don't buy one of the new ebay ones around the £2-300 mark as you can guarentee they will be Chinese copies and a little timebomb in your engine bay waiting to wreck your engine.
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Sammy on May 05, 2012, 12:05:43 pm
Just don't buy one of the new ebay ones around the £2-300 mark as you can guarentee they will be Chinese copies and a little timebomb in your engine bay waiting to wreck your engine.

unless you make sure it is genuine and check the turbo for wear
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: h4rdy on May 05, 2012, 12:48:39 pm
Well I went back to stage 1 as I always seemed to have loads of problem.
Its a much better map and made me realise just how good the car is nearly standard too.
I think somebody else said buy another car.
Seriously maybe you should consider it.
I love mine now its great and I wont be going back.

Hi guys my mk5 golf gti is currently stage2+ and i wanted some advice on where to go next. Currently putting out 280-290bhp and i want more power! What is the next step as i am new to all this tuning stuff. I bought the car lile this! Would it be an uprated turbo ko4 with s3 intercooler and injectors? Hoe much does it all cost i have no idea.

This is currently what i have on the car;

GTI 05 plate
55,000 miles

It was tuned by Statller
Evoms Intake
Turbo boost 3inch exhaust
Autotech Fuel Pump
GIAC extreme software (Ko3)+stage 3 gearbox software

Tarox Brake Discs and pads
19 inch matte black pro race rims
Michellin pilot sport tyres







Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: dan930 on May 05, 2012, 01:05:02 pm
What problems did u have Justin?
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: h4rdy on May 05, 2012, 03:50:15 pm
What problems did u have Justin?

Ok so im KO4 for starters but spark plugs, coil packs, lambda sensors.

Problems with the map where they hadnt put decat defeat on.

Rich at idle then lean at idle.

1st gear almost unuseable.

Sometimes the car was mental quick other times, minutes later, it was no quicker than standard.

Stage 1 you know what your getting everytime you get in the car.

The only other way is mild 2+ settings but whats the point of that.
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Kregiel on May 05, 2012, 08:54:08 pm
it seems like map issue to me.... I went from K03 to K04 and totally enjoy it, very driveable and well balanced

Paul
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2012, 08:56:23 pm
What problems did u have Justin?

Ok so im KO4 for starters but spark plugs, coil packs, lambda sensors.

Problems with the map where they hadnt put decat defeat on.

Rich at idle then lean at idle.

1st gear almost unuseable.

Sometimes the car was mental quick other times, minutes later, it was no quicker than standard.

Stage 1 you know what your getting everytime you get in the car.

The only other way is mild 2+ settings but whats the point of that.


that REVO Justin?
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: bushypad on May 06, 2012, 01:09:42 am
If my car is already on stage 3 then there is no need for a map surely? Just the k04? Running giac
Title: Re: Stage2+ what next?!
Post by: gazon69 on May 06, 2012, 12:59:26 pm
Well I went back to stage 1 as I always seemed to have loads of problem.
Its a much better map and made me realise just how good the car is nearly standard too.
I think somebody else said buy another car.
Seriously maybe you should consider it.
I love mine now its great and I wont be going back.

Hi guys my mk5 golf gti is currently stage2+ and i wanted some advice on where to go next. Currently putting out 280-290bhp and i want more power! What is the next step as i am new to all this tuning stuff. I bought the car lile this! Would it be an uprated turbo ko4 with s3 intercooler and injectors? Hoe much does it all cost i have no idea.

This is currently what i have on the car;

GTI 05 plate
55,000 miles

It was tuned by Statller
Evoms Intake
Turbo boost 3inch exhaust
Autotech Fuel Pump
GIAC extreme software (Ko3)+stage 3 gearbox software

Tarox Brake Discs and pads
19 inch matte black pro race rims
Michellin pilot sport tyres







I have been running stage 2+ for over a year now also tuned by statller and had no issues what so ever.