MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: gigolo456 on May 01, 2012, 05:26:04 pm
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Hi Folks, i don't know the specifics of this but has anybody any experience of K&N Intakes??
Cheers
Andrew
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apart from they should be reserved for people running saxos, you wont find much info on them on here because they arent known for making top performing intakes on the VAG engines.
Many better options, what is you budget?
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well, and i might have misheard him (VW Specialist), it would cost about £450.00 to supply and fit, so bearing this in mind, i'd say anything up to £600.00 at an absolute push!!! He did say i could expect about an extra 10-15 bhp. I have a GTi MK V and Bluefin Stage 1, if that makes any difference!?
Andrew
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The Dbilas Flowmaster intake uses a (very small) K&N element
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at that price you have many better intakes
ITG Maxogen, VWR Intake, Forge Twintake, BSH, Evoms to name a few
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Cheers, i did mention this to Mike (on here), but what sort of extra bhp could i expect? Would any performance gain be on top of my Bluefin Stage 1, if that makes sense??
Andrew
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i picked up a k+n intake on here cheap and my car made 256bhp from a stage 1 map with it on
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I have a k+n typhoon and it made 17.6 bhp more on dyno testing back to back with a standard airbox ,so there not that bad ,if you look at a typoon there more or less the same as a neuspeed pflo ,EVOMS and a BSH true seal and there decent intakes for the money,not everyone can afford ITG maxogen money so for what a k+n typhoon costs there a step up from the factory airbox
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Thanks folks. Is the consensus that whatever 1 I get that it shud come with an engine cover?? Reading other threads makes me think that the noise without this cover might be a tad annoying!!??
Andrew
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The tfsi intake systems need the engine cover removed. uid engine cover can be modified and refitted afterwards
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The tfsi intake systems need the engine cover removed. uid engine cover can be modified and refitted afterwards
There are a few members on here who can mod engine covers if your not handy with a dremel or spanners (I dont have tools or dremel), I am going to see if someone will mod my engine cover for me, I just bought a spare from Ebay the other day (should arrive today or tomorrow) so that will get modded to allow for Intake system.
Your right not everyone can afford The VWR/ITG or Twintake, or perhaps not so much as can't afford it, but would rather be different or spend money on other things (Or perhaps dont like the look of a tube with filter on the end, or as I like to call it "Blue Peter toilet roll with Grannies Clunge Sponge stuck on the end", Evom's, Dbilas, A.W.E. and Volant are all other options altho I think the Dbilas and Volant are the cheaper ones from those.
A.W.E. and Volant are also closed airbox designs so likely a little quieter too.
You pay your money you make your choice!
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Am i right in thinking that the VWR one is 'closed' also? Anyone know how much these ones go for, they seem to have a good reputation?
Cheers
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Am i right in thinking that the VWR one is 'closed' also? Anyone know how much these ones go for, they seem to have a good reputation?
Cheers
Yes VWR is closed also, £456 retail, but someone Is trying to arrange a group buy I think, might bring the price down £30-40, still too pricey in my opinion for what it is.
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Still tempting, considering it's surely not that much more than its competitors, and the last thing i wanted is an 'annoying' noise, lol!! Thinking though of complimetning it with a new exhaust, perhaps Milltek, although that probably alone will dramatically increase the sound!!?? :indifferent:
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I picked up a k&n typoon for 70.00 and couldn't be more impressed. at the end of the day its more about the efficiency of your intercooler rather than the intake when it comes down to temperature - the turbo will heat up the air to the point where a cold air intake is only so efficient. If I can eventually get my hands on a ITG then perhaps I will if the price is right - my intake makes a nice noise and if anything looks exactly like the neuspeed intakes. If you want a larger filter at the end of the day you can always buy them and then just bolt them onto the tube.
Money to power wise I cannot be happier with my k&n and disagree when people say they should only belong on cheap saxos or corsas and not performance cars - they are used in all motor sports and one of the main suppliers for nascar and make very good gains along with dyno prints. Plus its nice to know I have a million mile warranty with mine :happy2:
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Goo retort, very honest! Ref my intercoolers, they're just stock and i was under the assumption they wouldn't need to be changed unless i was upgrading from Stage 1 remap to Stage 2 (+)!?
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Having had one and sold it to Webby I can vouch for the quality and performance. I made 252 bhp on Sharks rollers with a mis firing plug so it didnt make full boost. The only reason for selling was the noise so I refitted the OE engine cover and am now after either a VWR or APR intake. But if you like the noise they are excellent filters for the money. Each company will market their air filter as the best, but they are all just filters on the end of a tube! The K&N was also maf scaled friendly so a bargain for the price.
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Am i missing something here, aren't filters (panel) something very different from an intake? I currently have stock intake, but Pipercross panel filter... :confused:
Andrew
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Yes the panel filters just fit into the OE air box where as the intakes do away with the factory air box. I have a K&N panel filter fitted and it works fine for a road car and fast road driving.
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Decisions decisions, do i stick with panel filter or upgrade the intake!!!??? :confused:
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To be brutally honest mate - either have their own benifits and disadvantages.
a panel filter if upgraded will suit you fine at stage one - I believe mk5gtian can shed some light on figures - and good if you want to keep everything looking oem
a intake at the right price can be a worthwhile mod - if your not into spending large sums of money for intakes then its probably not the route to take, or your best of waiting until a bargain comes up.
Intakes make noise but only when your heavy on the throttle, some will make more noise than others on full throttle and driving around. The typhoon kit (and im not going to say its the best or the worse as already mentioned each brand will claim they'res makes more bhp on the rollers and has better quality etc etc) makes next to no noise on easy or gentle driving but put your foot down and like all other intakes you get a lovely nice shhuuuhhhhhhh and you can really hear the air being sucked it.
Like mentioned - at the end of the day its just a filter on the end of a stick - granted as im sure someone will say "oh yeah but its not just..." there are some science to making a quality intake such as the degree in the bends, how many bends, inch diameter of pipe, filtration level of filter etc etc yadda yadda but truthfully there isn't any real defining this is a better intake because it does xyz and is built from xyz with intakes - I suppose some people pay for a brand and others pay for a intake and then spend more money elsewhere which is fine and don't get me wrong some of the more expensive intakes like ITG are very very good at what they do - I personally would love one if they were a little cheaper - but then if you really wanted to you could just buy a intake tube and then a ITG filter seperate and put the two together.
with refer to your intercooler - stock is fine for stage 1 and even 2 but what I was trying to get at is that the air cooling or mainly done by your intercooler so the efficiently of a uprated intercooler out weighs that of a intake. although every little helps!
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Did anyone fit the k& on an edition 30? And what mod did u do to it?
Or is it plug and play with something like the vwr k04 adaptor?
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at that price you have many better intakes
ITG Maxogen, VWR Intake, Forge Twintake, BSH, Evoms to name a few
do NOT buy a BSH. they're utter garbage