MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: jedi-knight83 on May 03, 2012, 12:08:56 am
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As the title says. I HATE auto wipers.. they also go onto super fast speed even with light rain. I just want manual intermittent wipers where I can control the frequency of the wipes.
I'm really hoping someone is going to come on and tell me its as simple as going into one of the control units on VAGCOM an de-selecting auto wipers and then they will work like normal intermittent wipers.
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why don't you just have the stalk as low as it goes, this has wipers off. Then if you want them on slow move it up 2 places, medium move it up 3 places and fast move it up 4 places?
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why don't you just have the stalk as low as it goes, this has wipers off. Then if you want them on slow move it up 2 places, medium move it up 3 places and fast move it up 4 places?
Aren't you just describing what the OP wants, i.e. intermittent wipers? I thought the auto wipers overide this, whatever position the stalk is in? I'll have to test this today, I'm sure I'll get the opportunity!
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Do you know how to work your auto wipers? A lot of people with them don't like them because they have no idea how to work them.
The lever on top of the stalk adjusts the sensitivity. Left to be less sensitive, right to be more. Try it and see how it goes. Sounds to me like yours is set to the right, which is very sensitive. Keep in mind that it is also speed sensitive.
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As Squeeguk (nice name, buddy!) says, it's just a matter of setting them up on the stalk to the sensitivity you prefer. I don't know if any settings can be done in VCDS.
I LOVE auto wipers - Apart from there being one less control to fiddle with while driving, it's an early indicator of rain and a wet or greasy road. Also the feature very safely deals with a sudden deluge of water on the windscreen - Flood or standing water thrown up by opposite lane vehicle, for example. I had a freaky occurrence once when driving fast at night and an isolated, sudden and extremely heavy shower hit the screen - It was literally as if someone had been stood on a bridge and dumped a big bucket of water on me. Auto wipers to the rescue.
[Robin waits for one of the forum wags to point out that it wasn't water] :laugh:
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Do you know how to work your auto wipers? A lot of people with them don't like them because they have no idea how to work them.
The lever on top of the stalk adjusts the sensitivity. Left to be less sensitive, right to be more. Try it and see how it goes. Sounds to me like yours is set to the right, which is very sensitive. Keep in mind that it is also speed sensitive.
No ive tried it in the less sensitive position to the left and the first few wipes are less frequent and then it speeds up and stays fast even with light rain.
I just want them gone. Its my 3rd car with auto wipers and they are all rubbish IMO.
Just want them as manual intermittent like on my VW caddy van.
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why don't you just have the stalk as low as it goes, this has wipers off. Then if you want them on slow move it up 2 places, medium move it up 3 places and fast move it up 4 places?
Yes... Maybe I'm not being clear. I know how the wipers work... or are SUPPOSED to work.
All the way down is off.
Nudge it down for 1 wipe (which is what I do all the time myself now to replicate intermittent mode)
Up one is auto where I can then use the dial ontop of the stalk to select sensitivity.. but this doesnt really do what I want still and you still end up getting the wipers moving fast in light rain
Up two is constant slow
Up three is constant fast.
On my VW Van WITHOUT auto wipe.. the 'Up One' setting is not auto but is intermittent instead where the dial on top of the stalk controls the frequency of the wipe on a timer basis.
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Sounds like you need to stick your GTI engine and transmission into your VW van. It would make a nice Caddy conversion and we'd all enjoy reading your thread on it.
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On the whole, I find the auto wipers in my Golf a lot more intelligent than the ones in my last car. Perhaps you have dust/dirt in between the sensor and windscreen? Or maybe your wiper blades could do with being replaced...
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Perhaps you have dust/dirt in between the sensor and windscreen?
....Not a good advert for someone who is a professional detailer :grin: (Cambridge Autogleam Detailing)
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Autowipers are crap, I have had many cars with them on especially when I worked for VW and I'm talking 20 plus, so I feel I have more experience than most with these.
Sometimes they come on when there is no rain and spread dust and grime all over your screen, sometimes they don't come on enough when it is raining and sometimes they go too fast when it is, so you spend you life adjusting the sensitivity. Oh and don't forget when you put the car in reverse the rear one comes on too, which is great when it's raining but painful when it's not.
I agree with the op, if I could turn that function off I would
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Autowipers are crap, I have had many cars with them on especially when I worked for VW and I'm talking 20 plus, so I feel I have more experience than most with these.
Sometimes they come on when there is no rain and spread dust and grime all over your screen, sometimes they don't come on enough when it is raining and sometimes they go too fast when it is, so you spend you life adjusting the sensitivity. Oh and don't forget when you put the car in reverse the rear one comes on too, which is great when it's raining but painful when it's not.
I agree with the op, if I could turn that function off I would
....My rear wiper doesn't come on every time I reverse. My front screen wipers are always set to auto. Mk5 GTI 06-Build spec.
You only have to spend the time adjusting the sensitivity once. I really don't see what all the hating is about. You can set your wipers to ONLY operate manually if you want - Just move the stalk.
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If you move the stalk they are always on, autowipe is not accurate enough. Each to their own at the end of the day, but after experiencing them on many cars for the last 10+ years I just don't think they work that well.
Not sure why yours doesn't come on when you reverse, but that is the best feature about them.
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I agree that it's a bit fiddly setting them up and it can be a real test of patience but I'm glad to say that I've found my sweet spot :happy2:
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Due to the current whether I have had time to get my Auto Wipers "just right", a little it like getting your seat "just right", each to their own. Makes my chuckle when its just stopped raining, driving under trees and a single large drop hits the sensors and all hell brakes lose with the wipers.
But if you don't like them, put them in the off position and turn them on when required, that's what we used to do in the good old days. Oh and don't get me started on Auto Lights, they really are possessed!!!
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I love auto lights :grin:
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I can see where your coming from with this, sometimes the wipers work great, other times they can be a bit slow to react, and when they do, they go into overdrive :driver:
The auto wipers on my old Civic Type R were much better - :ashamed:
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I think the settings are in the Central Electrics module and look for rain sensor in the settings - needs to be inactive.
FWIW I have mixed feelings - sometimes they work and work well, other times it's crap but it's not reached the stage where I need to deactivate it.
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I love auto lights :grin:
I never use auto lights :grin:
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why don't you just have the stalk as low as it goes, this has wipers off. Then if you want them on slow move it up 2 places, medium move it up 3 places and fast move it up 4 places?
Aren't you just describing what the OP wants, i.e. intermittent wipers? I thought the auto wipers overide this, whatever position the stalk is in? I'll have to test this today, I'm sure I'll get the opportunity!
this is not the case on my 2006 8P
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Perhaps you have dust/dirt in between the sensor and windscreen?
....Not a good advert for someone who is a professional detailer :grin: (Cambridge Autogleam Detailing)
Wipers are actually 1 week old and the screen is covered in so much rainx the water doesnt stay on it for long.. hence only needing the very occasional wipe.
I appreciate everyones responses but honestly I dont need to try the auto any more.. I just need to know if someone knows the answer.. Otherwise I'll borrow a vagcom cable again and give it a go myself.
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Sounds like you need to stick your GTI engine and transmission into your VW van. It would make a nice Caddy conversion and we'd all enjoy reading your thread on it.
I'd love to do an engine conversion on the caddy. Ideally the 170bhp 2.0 tdi lump with a dsg box and 4wd :)
Can i borrow a few thousand?
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I think the settings are in the Central Electrics module and look for rain sensor in the settings - needs to be inactive.
FWIW I have mixed feelings - sometimes they work and work well, other times it's crap but it's not reached the stage where I need to deactivate it.
Thanks... I will have to get the cable and have a go I guess. I will report back.
To everyone else... Im not sure why some say they need adjusting to a sweet spot? There are only 4 sensitivity setting on the stalk and I've tried it at the least sensitive and when I turn them on in light drizzle the wipers only wipe every few seconds and then for no reason (rain hasnt got harder and I've not gone any faster) they go into constant mode.
I just want the auto mode off and for the 1st 'on' position to be a manual intermittent wipe.
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Yes, you can adjust the sensitivity of the rain sensor using vcds if you know what you are doing. Have to manually change a few bytes.
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Yes, you can adjust the sensitivity of the rain sensor using vcds if you know what you are doing. Have to manually change a few bytes.
I dont want to adjust the sensitivity though.. I want the wipers and wiper stalk to be as if there was no auto sensor. I want to turn it off completely.
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Perhaps you have dust/dirt in between the sensor and windscreen?
....Not a good advert for someone who is a professional detailer :grin: (Cambridge Autogleam Detailing)
Wipers are actually 1 week old and the screen is covered in so much rainx the water doesnt stay on it for long.. hence only needing the very occasional wipe.
I appreciate everyones responses but honestly I dont need to try the auto any more.. I just need to know if someone knows the answer.. Otherwise I'll borrow a vagcom cable again and give it a go myself.
Your issue is probably the Rain-X then. I had the same problem with my vRS as the screen is coated with nanloex. Because the water is moving so fast over the sensor it assumes the rain is coming down quicker than it is so adjusts the wipers accordingly. I now don't use the auto wipers as unless it is at a point where it is needed then the Nanolex clears the screen perfectly fine for driving. If i do need the wipers i just switch them on :happy2:
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Perhaps you have dust/dirt in between the sensor and windscreen?
....Not a good advert for someone who is a professional detailer :grin: (Cambridge Autogleam Detailing)
Wipers are actually 1 week old and the screen is covered in so much rainx the water doesnt stay on it for long.. hence only needing the very occasional wipe.
I appreciate everyones responses but honestly I dont need to try the auto any more.. I just need to know if someone knows the answer.. Otherwise I'll borrow a vagcom cable again and give it a go myself.
Your issue is probably the Rain-X then. I had the same problem with my vRS as the screen is coated with nanloex. Because the water is moving so fast over the sensor it assumes the rain is coming down quicker than it is so adjusts the wipers accordingly. I now don't use the auto wipers as unless it is at a point where it is needed then the Nanolex clears the screen perfectly fine for driving. If i do need the wipers i just switch them on :happy2:
Agree have Rain X on my car and have same issues!
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I had a freaky occurrence once when driving fast at night and an isolated, sudden and extremely heavy shower hit the screen - It was literally as if someone had been stood on a bridge and dumped a big bucket of water on me. Auto wipers to the rescue.
I had a similar occurrence. All of a sudden it was like I had driven under the Niagra Falls. My cars rear end swung out and I hit the central reservation of the M62, then spun a few times. Sadly auto wipers didn't have a chance and the BMWs life was over.
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I noticed something new yesterday when using the wipers - I had them on '2nd click' (constant slow) and when I slowed down (<5mph) the wipers started working intermittently...then once I began speeding up, they went back on to constant slow - quite ingenious :happy2:
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I had a freaky occurrence once when driving fast at night and an isolated, sudden and extremely heavy shower hit the screen - It was literally as if someone had been stood on a bridge and dumped a big bucket of water on me. Auto wipers to the rescue.
I had a similar occurrence. All of a sudden it was like I had driven under the Niagra Falls. My cars rear end swung out and I hit the central reservation of the M62, then spun a few times. Sadly auto wipers didn't have a chance and the BMWs life was over.
....Ouch!!!! Glad you didn't get hurt, that could have been very nasty on a M-way if other vehicles got involved.
Nothing to do with auto wipers but I do find the GTI very stable indeed in wind and rain - Probably helped by great low profile asymmetric tyres and stiff coilovers. I drove a standard Mk6 Polo in the same conditions/road/same day and it was all over the place.
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....Ouch!!!! Glad you didn't get hurt, that could have been very nasty on a M-way if other vehicles got involved.
I've no idea how we weren't hit by another vehicle. It was just after a Manchester United game and the motorway was pretty busy. The actual crash was pretty serene, but the realisation that we ended up sat in the middle lane of the motorway facing oncoming traffic was pretty terrifying, and that we had to get out and on to the hard shoulder. Bad times, but the BMW was a great car to have a crash in.
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Bad times, but the BMW was a great car to have a crash in.
....I had a tyre blow out at ~100 on the M1 in a Beemer once - Great cars and it wasn't a problem. I had my daughter as a baby in the front seat - No wonder she's always a cool passenger. And before anyone waves a finger: I drive the same whoever is passenger - I drive to protect myself as much as any passenger.
Better get back on topic...............
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Hmm, had a play with VAGCOM tonight and unfortunately it seems the answer to this is NO. I tried setting the rain sensor to inactive, tried turning off the rain/light sensor... couldnt get anything to work...
Found something on a google search saying to sway a fuse / relay for one with the intermittent function?
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D'oh! I was hoping for a VAGCOM solution! I so know what you mean. I get the point of auto wipers but the sensitivity button on the stalk seems to have little effect and I end up manually simulating 'intermittant' by pushing the stalk down. Wish I had 'just' intermittant as an option even if auto remained as another option.
Auto lights are better however - except when in the daytime you go under trees or something and they come on and off when back in the sunlight. Other drivers must think I'm an idiot, or going for the boy racer "look at me I've got xenons" look!!! :pomppomp::ashamed:
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Auto lights are better however - except when in the daytime you go under trees or something and they come on and off when back in the sunlight. Other drivers must think I'm an idiot, or going for the boy racer "look at me I've got xenons" look!!! :pomppomp::ashamed:
....I hate auto lights but love auto wipers :grin: - At least auto lights can be simply switched off with a manual switch. But I love my Hella DRL's more as they are automatically switched on with the ignition and I never have to think about them. It's safer to be seen.