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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: sub39h on May 03, 2012, 01:36:09 pm
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... and no, i'm not joking. The act of filesharing copyrighted files is illegal: that is not in dispute. But voilation of my civil liberties is not an acceptable way to deal with the problem. This is the UK, not China. This sets a dangerous precedent for other websites that the government may feel is inappropriate.
Discuss.
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newgroup ftw, however they said they will be targeting that soon.
Surely people are going to start cancelling there contract with Virgin ?
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It's illegal dude.
If they continue to ban and prosecute child porn websites, would you class that as impacting your 'civil liberties'?
That's my view on it anyway. Ignorant? Possibly. Do a give a hoot? Nah. :drinking:
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newgroup ftw, however they said they will be targeting that soon.
Surely people are going to start cancelling there contract with Virgin ?
Every ISP will be affected eventually. Virgin is just the first to fall. All the other major players will be following suit soon. I'll be looking into which ISPs this doesn't apply to (if any) and boycotting any that block websites. If it applies to all ISPs let's just say I'll be taking measures to ensure my civil liberties remain intact as so far that's not illegal.
It's illegal dude.
If they continue to ban and prosecute child porn websites, would you class that as impacting your 'civil liberties'?
That's my view on it anyway. Ignorant? Possibly. Do a give a hoot? Nah. :drinking:
the act of viewing child pornography is illegal. going on Piratebay is not illegal if you don't fileshare copyrighted files.
they are not the same thing. do you not wonder what other websites they'll block in future in the name of the so-called greater good?
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It encourages illegal activity though I guess. The millions and millions of pounds in tax revenue they will loose out on pretty much warrants the removal in my eyes
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There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me :happy2:
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newgroup ftw, however they said they will be targeting that soon.
Surely people are going to start cancelling there contract with Virgin ?
Every ISP will be affected eventually. Virgin is just the first to fall. All the other major players will be following suit soon. I'll be looking into which ISPs this doesn't apply to (if any) and boycotting any that block websites. If it applies to all ISPs let's just say I'll be taking measures to ensure my civil liberties remain intact as so far that's not illegal.
It's illegal dude.
If they continue to ban and prosecute child porn websites, would you class that as impacting your 'civil liberties'?
That's my view on it anyway. Ignorant? Possibly. Do a give a hoot? Nah. :drinking:
the act of viewing child pornography is illegal. going on Piratebay is not illegal if you don't fileshare copyrighted files.
they are not the same thing. do you not wonder what other websites they'll block in future in the name of the so-called greater good?
Forgot to mention that - which is the otherside of the arguement because a lot of copyright free programmes, music, images etc are shared through pirate bay.. so really rather than banning or taking the site out they should just filter the content.. but even then there are always ways to get around such as ip cloaks or masks or the big one proxy sites :happy2: so really you'll always be able to get on piratebay - you'll just have to go the long route
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There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me :happy2:
you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.
how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead
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They will probably only block this webiste because Robin pollutes it too much with pictures :grin:
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They will probably only block this webiste because Robin pollutes it too much with pictures :grin:
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There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me :happy2:
you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.
how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead
the idea is to send out a message - pirate bay will never actually be banned or removed the developers will simply up and leave - buy some more servers in another contry and set up the site again under a different domain and different name. Its the same for any other streaming or downloading site - everything just gets moved around and then within a few days its online again and then it takes another few years to shut it down again - look at megavideo whenever something is reported the link gets broken someone uploads a new link with a different url and then you can stream it again without any problems.
I think its a little extreme to say they will block this site because we drive slightly higher polluting cars - thats just a bit to nazi and wouldn't work because the masses of the gti community would rise and drive to parliment and park on the lawn in protest with everyone revving the engines and getting oil all over the nice green grass... but seriously it wouldn't happen - and ill wager you - if this site is closed down by government or any ISP because our cars pollute then I will eat anything you name bar anything human or sexual :wink:
you only have to look at how much damage particular hacking groups are doing to major government sites and even ISP to realise they don't have full control over content of the internet and it will never be allowed to get to a stage where the most we can look at is government approved websites so i say sit back have a cuppa tea and use a proxy :wink:
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I wouldn't stress about it. Newsgroups are far better than torrents. Wong be long before the owners change the slightest thing in the URL, move the servers and we will be back in business.
And like others have said there are ways around it you just need to know were to look
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Im looking for some of latest news on groups :wink: can anyone point me in the right direction? :grin:
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Im looking for some of latest news on groups :wink: can anyone point me in the right direction? :grin:
Google the following.
Gigganews
News hosting
Astra web
Nzbsrus
Newzbin
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Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.
IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.
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Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.
IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.
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Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.
IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.
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I thought it was piratebay that had their servers in Sweden where file sharing was not illegal?, altho I might be confusing it with another one?, hence they cannot be stopped so have to resort to blocking the site from USP's, its' the Americans that kick up the most fuss about it and you should see some of the letters the Yanks send to them and the replies they send back, the yanks quote American law and the swedes reply back with "we are not in USA, fook off", some of them are v. funny to read, I know its illegal in some countries but not in all countries!.
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And yes there are many ways of getting round a blocked ISP........... :happy2:
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Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.
IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.
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that is not nail on head at all - you're still TOTALLY missing the point.
Napster was doing something illegal. it was closed. that is fair process.
this is a case of a website being blocked. the act of looking on the website is not illegal. using the website is not inherently illegal, unless you participate in certain activities which the website itself does not force upon you.
the fact that others will pop up in it's place is also completely irrelevant.
the government is violating our civil liberties by blocking a website. provided that the content of the website is not illegal (and considering that Piratebay doesn't host material itself it doesn't have illegal content) then they have no right to block it. that's ALL this is concerned with. not the legalities downloading copyrighted things, nor a question of being inconvenienced by having to look elsewhere.
does it not concern you that you will not be allowed to view a website, when the act of viewing this website is not inherently illegal? and do you not understand the consequences of being monitored, our privacy invaded and being told what we can and cannot see? this is the first step in that direction and that's what i'm concerned with.
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Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.
IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.
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that is not nail on head at all - you're still TOTALLY missing the point.
Napster was doing something illegal. it was closed. that is fair process.
this is a case of a website being blocked. the act of looking on the website is not illegal. using the website is not inherently illegal, unless you participate in certain activities which the website itself does not force upon you.
the fact that others will pop up in it's place is also completely irrelevant.
the government is violating our civil liberties by blocking a website. provided that the content of the website is not illegal (and considering that Piratebay doesn't host material itself it doesn't have illegal content) then they have no right to block it. that's ALL this is concerned with. not the legalities downloading copyrighted things, nor a question of being inconvenienced by having to look elsewhere.
does it not concern you that you will not be allowed to view a website, when the act of viewing this website is not inherently illegal? and do you not understand the consequences of being monitored, our privacy invaded and being told what we can and cannot see? this is the first step in that direction and that's what i'm concerned with.
When I lived in Singapore, they used to block all Porn sites from ALL ISP's so you could not view porn, this just meant there was a massive black market for porn DVD's, one door closes another opens, there were also computer programs you could buy (From Malaysia) that would circumvent the blocks anway if you wanted.
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The Government/big brother/martians can look into anything they like about me. I haven't got anything to hide, nor can i stop anyone who is determined to do it.
Unless of course i live in an underground bunker, swallow my sim card and do squat jogs for the rest of my life :evilgrin:
But seriously until they start putting live streaming cameras in my toilet, which stops me having a sh*t in peace, then i aint going to worry about not being able to access a website. I'll just go look at one i can.
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They will probably only block this webiste because Robin pollutes it too much with pictures :grin:
.... *cough* Who? Me? *cough*
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Whereas I totally agree about banning paedo web sites, I believe that the internet should remain a free and frontier-less medium as it was originally intended. For every harmful occurence via the hyperinterwebbynet, there are many more good occurences.
I think that authority feels threatened by the free voices of the people, both nationally and internationally, and they are after every single opportunity to take money from us.
Free access and freedom is what it's all about. Now, where's my bookmarks folder of favourite porn sites :evilgrin:
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Sub, you should be more worried about the invasion of the GMC in your private life than what govts are doing with ISP blocking. Bear in mind you need to be above reproach and hence shouldn't be looking at dodgy websites. Doctors have gone down for things in their private life in the past.
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Sub, you should be more worried about the invasion of the GMC in your private life than what govts are doing with ISP blocking. Bear in mind you need to be above reproach and hence shouldn't be looking at dodgy websites. Doctors have gone down for things in their private life in the past.
....Isn't this partly why the medical establishment are so self protective and private about some of their practices.
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Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.
IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.
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that is not nail on head at all - you're still TOTALLY missing the point.
Napster was doing something illegal. it was closed. that is fair process.
this is a case of a website being blocked. the act of looking on the website is not illegal. using the website is not inherently illegal, unless you participate in certain activities which the website itself does not force upon you.
the fact that others will pop up in it's place is also completely irrelevant.
the government is violating our civil liberties by blocking a website. provided that the content of the website is not illegal (and considering that Piratebay doesn't host material itself it doesn't have illegal content) then they have no right to block it. that's ALL this is concerned with. not the legalities downloading copyrighted things, nor a question of being inconvenienced by having to look elsewhere.
does it not concern you that you will not be allowed to view a website, when the act of viewing this website is not inherently illegal? and do you not understand the consequences of being monitored, our privacy invaded and being told what we can and cannot see? this is the first step in that direction and that's what i'm concerned with.
No, I get your point - im just disagreeing with it - the point of the matter is that there's no point getting worked up or worried about anything because what you're saying will never happen. The internet will never be censored. The people who are hugely intelligent will always provide new ways of viewing, streaming, sharing, downloading so that you or I do not need to worry about censorship or websites being banned.
You're forgetting that the large majority of what - went on with pirate bay was illegal and you could argue, like many people, that the owners of the domain and the website did not keep strict enough control on the content of the website and therefore should be shut down for allowing millions and millions of losses to occur solely because of the website. Im not going to say I don't download etc etc but lets imagine you invent a software and charge £15.00 and then you look at your bank statement one day and realise you've lost thousands and thousands of pounds because someone has uploaded it to pirate bay you'd be pretty f*cked off and you can't say you wouldn't be - you are in the literal sense being stolen from.
stealthwolf did hit the nail as he rightly said when napster - and were talking about the original napster was closed down it was relaunched under different names etc and if anything turned out better! His also right in saying even if they do close down a few more file sharing website like pirate bay - how long do you think it will be before there uploaded - even if they block a few websites - how long do you think it will be before you find out that you can use a proxy to go on that website.
Its like watching family guy and american dad online - I've seen so many websites come and go that are run by the same people uploading the same template and same layout. I could argue that I'm not actually committing any illegal activity by visiting the site, only if I choose to stream it but then the website still provides a means to commit that offence so why it fair to allow it to stay live when its costing a company, someone or people that have worked hard to produce and develop those shows and want to enjoy the money they make from their hard labour?
what your saying is nothing new, closing down websites has been going on for ages, internet monitoring has been going on for longer - every time you do anything its recorded, you leave your finger print everywhere you go - look at google - personalising ad's to your browsing habbits - for example if you go on this website and other websites all the time you'll notice halfords adverts etc etc
I am neither agreeing or disagreeing with the fact that websites are being shut down because they are or are not illegal and do or do not provide access to illegal activites - I would be a Hippocratic person to say that they should all be closed down when I use certain websites to stream online programmes etc
But in conjunction to your main point - no I am not worried, and neither should you - like already mentioned the government will never be able to actually censor the internet and prevent you from watching or doing what you want - but ill also say there should be a degree of censorship on the more serious and sick side of the internet such as child porn and other disturbing videos.
I did see discuss :signLOL:
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Yeah, it's like smuggling (no, not peanuts you perverts!) - It will continue while human beings continue to exist and the same applies to prostitution. Human ingenuity will always find a way to beat a system :congrats:. It's a game.
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Robin.. is there a reason for
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Yeah, it's like smuggling (no, not peanuts you perverts!) - It will continue while human beings continue to exist and the same applies to prostitution. Human ingenuity will always find a way to beat a system :congrats:. It's a game.
is that why you have a fast car with a big boot? :signLOL:
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A little exctractayyyyyyyyyyyyy:
Internet censorship in the United Kingdom takes various forms, including blocking access to sites, and laws that criminalise publication or possession of certain material, particularly child pornography, within the United Kingdom. The U.K. has a notable libertarian tradition, manifested by, among other things, solid guarantees of freedom of expression, freedom of information, and protection of privacy. Freedom of expression and protection of privacy over the Internet is guaranteed by law. Nonetheless, over the last few years there has been a shift toward increased surveillance and police measures. Combating terrorism and preventing child abuse have been widely used by state agencies and private commercial actors (e.g., Internet service providers) to justify the implementation of interception and direct filtering measures. Never the less in 2010 the OpenNet Initiative found no evidence of technical filtering in the political, social, conflict/security, or Internet tools areas. However, the U.K. openly blocks child pornography Web sites, for which ONI does not test.
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....Isn't this partly why the medical establishment are so self protective and private about some of their practices.
It's not their practices that's the issue. I'm more than happy for my medical practise to be scrutinised. What I don't want is GMC interfering with my private/home life. It's nothing to do with them. Unfortunately it seems that the GMC want to know what you're up to. There's even talk of monitoring medical students at uni which IMO is a bit OTT given the rest of the student population.
EDIT: I'm also against general Big Brother-ism. I don't mean the crappy show. I'm talking about Orwell's 1984 stuff. I agree with banning some horrific practices but blocking websites is nothing new or different. They can block TPB all they want. There are already multitudes of grabbing stuff and TBH if you're still using TPB, you're a dozy git IMO.
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Robin.. is there a reason for ^^^^
Yeah, it's like smuggling (no, not peanuts you perverts!) - It will continue while human beings continue to exist and the same applies to prostitution. Human ingenuity will always find a way to beat a system :congrats:. It's a game.
is that why you have a fast car with a big boot? :signLOL:
....Oooops! I've been rumbled!
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try www.isohunt.com
I've used loads of torrent sites over the years and they all seem to search the same pool of information so if they shut one down another 10 will pop up in its place and you will still be able to find torrents.
IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.
My take on it is... 99% of what I downloads (tv series, films, music) I would never actually go out and buy anyway and if its been on TV IMO its been paid for by the adverts / licence etc. So either I download it for free, or if all these sites were banned and file sharing completely blocked then I still wouldn't spend money on watching / listening. So what are they actually losing??
If its a band or a film I really like then I will still pay on itunes and still go to the cinema so they still get my money.
I've also discovered a lot of new bands via free download that I now pay for their music.
Instead of wasting millions on court cases to try to block these sites the companies should be finding effective ways of sharing the media themselves. Then they can still tag advertising onto its etc...
For instance.. If i know a program is available on 4od I will watch it there and endure the annoying adverts rather than download for free from a torrent site.
If companies want us to stop downloading illegally... then make it available on their own site!
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There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me :happy2:
you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.
how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead
Calm down dear !
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Its time you sold your car and went to live in a tree. :P
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IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.
....It has been said for years that without porn the internet wouldn't even exist!
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There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me :happy2:
you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.
how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead
Calm down dear !
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Its time you sold your car and went to live in a tree. :P
god his face makes me laugh
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try www.isohunt.com
I've used loads of torrent sites over the years and they all seem to search the same pool of information so if they shut one down another 10 will pop up in its place and you will still be able to find torrents.
IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.
My take on it is... 99% of what I downloads (tv series, films, music) I would never actually go out and buy anyway and if its been on TV IMO its been paid for by the adverts / licence etc. So either I download it for free, or if all these sites were banned and file sharing completely blocked then I still wouldn't spend money on watching / listening. So what are they actually losing??
If its a band or a film I really like then I will still pay on itunes and still go to the cinema so they still get my money.
I've also discovered a lot of new bands via free download that I now pay for their music.
Instead of wasting millions on court cases to try to block these sites the companies should be finding effective ways of sharing the media themselves. Then they can still tag advertising onto its etc...
For instance.. If i know a program is available on 4od I will watch it there and endure the annoying adverts rather than download for free from a torrent site.
If companies want us to stop downloading illegally... then make it available on their own site!
yeah i agree with that.. its always good quality on 40d.. Thats one of the reasons why i like spotify -found so many new bands through thay bar the occasional add like you said its hreat and when the adds come on i make a tea. :happy2:
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Such legislation is utterly ineffectual: the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it (or, Information Wants To Be Free).
But yes, this is a gross violation of civil liberties, and the start of a "slippery slope":
1) Piratebay is banned because it links, amongst other things, to illegal materials.
2) Google will also be banned because Google also links, amongst other things, to illegal materials?
3) Wikipedia will also be banned because it has articles about and links to, amongst other things, websites which have been banned because they link to illegal materials?
Step 3) is maybe a bit difficult to imagine, but this is what the SOPA law in the US and the ACTA treaty wish to enact. Step 2) - there seems to be no justification to me that would allow thepiratebay to be blocked on the basis of "links to illegal material" but not Google (apart from Google has more and better lawyers).
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Hey Neo! Long time since I've read any of your posts - P!ssing excellence as usual :happy2:
The other issue is that between what is considered illegal due to morality and illegal because it better suits a government/authority (often based on financial gain considerations) < I hope that makes sense!
This is further complicated by different moral values among different cultures and human societies - What's considered 'wrong' in one culture isn't considered 'wrong' in another.
Bottom line, IMO, is to keep as much freedom as possible and not to let authorities/governments with other agendas to take the internet over.
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IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.
....It has been said for years that without porn the internet wouldn't even exist!
about 30% of the www is porn.... years of research has led me to believe this is about right :rolleye:
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^^^^ 30%. Novice!!!!
Have stopped downloading movies/music from pirate sites due to the amount of viruses that have got through my firewall.
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^^^^ 30%. Novice!!!!
Have stopped downloading movies/music from pirate sites due to the amount of viruses that have got through my firewall.
30% on web the other 70% is on my HD :pomppomp:
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I use most of my newsgroups to download tv episodes when they air in the USA, it's bullsh*t that I have to wait 6months longer than the Americans.
I have found though since owning a HDTV that my piracy has been reduced, the films that were grainy and a bit dark worked on a 28" CRT but throw that up on a 50" plasma and it's a diffrent story.
The simple fact is the Internet has created a ' power to the peopl' mentality were a load of single voices can unite to cause a massive wave, this is the authorities trying to rule with a iron fist.
I say let them do what they want they will never stop us, the annoy group showed that last year
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Its just business as normal. Problem, reaction, solution.
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There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me :happy2:
you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.
how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead
Calm down dear !
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fj126%2Fodk_photos%2Fesure_michael_winner_calm_down_dear.jpg&hash=4924d3884620cda7dbcc7cf5d8aec86c03e61437)
Its time you sold your car and went to live in a tree. :P
I'm moving to London in 4 months and selling my car and living in a tree look to be the only options I can afford this far :rolleye:
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Balls.... isohunt seems to be blocked now!
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Guys.... http://www.iwebproxy.net/ (http://www.iwebproxy.net/)
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Balls.... isohunt seems to be blocked now!
Works on Vermin Media for me.
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No issues with VM either
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Me neither
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Must have been a server issue as its back working now thank god... I was about to throw my mac out the window, rip my shirt off raise my hands to the heavens and shout 'why god why' :signLOL:
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Guys.... http://www.iwebproxy.net/ (http://www.iwebproxy.net/)
:happy2:
fantastic :notworthy:
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Must have been a server issue as its back working now thank god... I was about to throw my mac out the window, rip my shirt off raise my hands to the heavens and shout 'why god why' :signLOL:
Or just use www.iwebproxy.net :wink: