MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Sharman on May 16, 2009, 12:30:37 pm
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Ready to replace all 4 tyres on my GTI. Original Conti 2 only lasted 8000 miles, changed them for the Goodyear assy's. They've been really good and lasted twice as long. Was going for the Goodyears, then got a price for the Michelin pilot sport 2. The Pilots are only £6 a tyre more. Which tyre will I get the most miles out of? Any recommendations? Cheers
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think i would probably go fo the michelin if only 6 quid more im sure they will last a lot longer although the f1's are meant to be better for grip, tough decision :laugh:
this site is quite good if you havent seen it for reviews http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Grid/ :happy2:
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Correct me if im wrong :-
Arent all tyres merley the same ? - to me most tyres you just pay for the name/brand.
I have some some 19" tyres on my BBS rims - they are called SUNNY
They had loads of tread on them and cost me £50 a tyre !!!
They do the job - grip pretty well - flooring on first gear you get some spin on the upper rev range. Why should i pay more money for michelline or Goodyear etc.... ?
What are your thoughts on this. ?
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My thoughts are get the best you can.
I have no experience of "Sunny" tyres, but would like to bet that if you swapped them for some Goodyears, Vredesteins or Michelins you would instantly tell the difference for the better. :happy2:
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Correct me if im wrong :-
Arent all tyres merley the same ? - to me most tyres you just pay for the name/brand.
I have some some 19" tyres on my BBS rims - they are called SUNNY
They had loads of tread on them and cost me £50 a tyre !!!
They do the job - grip pretty well - flooring on first gear you get some spin on the upper rev range. Why should i pay more money for michelline or Goodyear etc.... ?
What are your thoughts on this. ?
ETTO, I buy the best I can afford, just like my car.
You hurtle around the roads, and the only thing that keeps you on the road is 4 small contact areas, each about 6" diameter. I would arther have a tyre that had been developed through years of testing, and place the security of my car in that tyre.
Remember - Power is nothing without control, if you are happy trusting you pride and joy in the hands of the cheapest tyre you can get, which is cheap for a reason (little or no development), then it is up to you, but for me, i always buy the best I can afford.
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I was recommended the Goodyear's on this site and knew they topped the EVO tyre test. These are £108, the michelins £114 for the 17" monzas.
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Mich Pilot Sport 2
All day long.
i've had most tyres going, currently on T1R's and nothing for me has ever performed like the mich's in the wet and the dry
cant wait to scrub my way thru the toyo's to get back to them :smiley:
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I've got Michelin Pilot Sport 2 extra load on mine and I have to say I'm looking forward to the day I can change them. They have much less grip in the wet, a little less in the dry and numbed the steering when compared to the Continental Conti Sport 2s the car was supplied with.
Unfortunately they are wearing well :( .. They don't have as good rim protection either.
A good mate of mine has the Bridgestone RE50As on his GTI in the same size and they seem to offer as good steering feel as the Contis did, plus they have much better rim protection.
Personally, I'm going to go for the Bridgestones or the Goodyears next.
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I have vredestein ultrac sessanta on my Monza 17" and i found them very good when they were on my car, the ride with them was better than the falkens i have on now but maybe its because i have 18" now :happy2:
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Also sorry to hijack thread sharman
but do we need to have extra load tyres on our cars and does that make the ride slightly harder and there for worser
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Also sorry to hijack thread sharman
but do we need to have extra load tyres on our cars and does that make the ride slightly harder and there for worser
Yes, I believe we do. My car was supplied with them from VW and on the last change also requested XL to which the tyre place said thats what their computer tells them is required.
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Also sorry to hijack thread sharman
but do we need to have extra load tyres on our cars and does that make the ride slightly harder and there for worser
Yes, I believe we do. My car was supplied with them from VW and on the last change also requested XL to which the tyre place said thats what their computer tells them is required.
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Good to see everyone is in agreement on the best tyres! :laugh:
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forum power :grin:
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Also had a price of £102 ea for Conti's 3 and £112 for Bridgestone RE050A's. I can't make my mind up!
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Id rank them as :
1. Goodyear F1 (based purely on the excellent review EVO gave them on their test)
2. Contis (these were excellent on mine... but sometimes the OEM fitted tyre is the best version of that tyre brand/model you ever get... and when you buy them again, they just don't feel the same.)
3. Bridgestones (I've found these to be good in the past, and they are great on my mate's GTI)
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http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=85579764.110.23531&kplz=&typ=R-147202&dsco=110&ranzahl=4.How about these ?. :drool:
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Also had a price of £102 ea for Conti's 3 and £112 for Bridgestone RE050A's. I can't make my mind up!
where did you get that price for Conti 3s mate?? cheapest ive had is £165 each fitted!! i need 2 fronts, got the conti 3s on back and sh*tty budget tyres that came wiv it on front. i spin everytime i pull away its like driving on slicks!!!
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Kwik-fit are doing conti's 4 for the price of 3. If you order and buy online it's £102 ea for 4 or £117 ea if you only buy 2.
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Kumho KU31's on my S-line & they are v/good. Better IMO than the previous conti's & GY Asseys.
Falken 452's on wifeys ED30 are amazing for the dosh. It did have bridgeys on them to start with.
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ill pop over kwik fit see what they have,never really tried them as they always seem to be pricey!!! what price for the kumho KU31's mate?? cheers
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i have the standard contis on the front and michelin ps2 on the back, i cant wait to get rid of the original contis for some more michelins on the front. i dont get on with them at all. golfs are also very common for knocking rear tyres out of shape, and i have found michelins keep their shape best, and contis are pretty shocking. michelins alday long for me.
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Never really got on with kwik-fit, but that was years ago. I think you'll have to buy online to get them the cheapest. Check their website.
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some surprising contradictions on here....
Richi :surprised: : tyres vary widely and its not just about branding, stopping distances in dry/wet etc can vary massively , ultimately the differences in branding could safe your life...
Mark : Im surprised on your Mich PS2 findings , as for me they have been fast ish wearing (8-10k miles for the fronts), and excellent feel/grip in wet and dry!
For me on 18's , they would both be an excellent choice. Alas I havent tried the Assym on the Golf.
PS2 are always pricey too which may just swing me to try them.
Ultimately the PS2 I have on the front have been different class to the Exaltos I had on before. Understeer on the Exaltos was really bad , sidewall and feel seem much softer on them too.
will let you know as Im up for a new front set too, just keep putting it off.
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A little confused now! The original conti sport contact 2's were 225/45 17 91W. I replaced the fronts with Goodyear F1 Assy's which are 94Y XL. I've since been told via the forums that they need to be XL(extra load), but I can't see any XL writing on the Conti 2's. Do they need to be XL? If so, when I rang Costco regarding the Michelin Pilot sport 2's, I was told that they are rated 91Y and "NOT" XL. Also, I looked at some V rated Avon ZV3 which were cheap(£66), but they told me that they weren't rated high enough for my GTI and could invalidate my insurance. I then checked my original Conti 2's and found them to be W rated. Confused :rolleye:
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A little confused now! The original conti sport contact 2's were 225/45 17 91W. I replaced the fronts with Goodyear F1 Assy's which are 94Y XL. I've since been told via the forums that they need to be XL(extra load), but I can't see any XL writing on the Conti 2's. Do they need to be XL? If so, when I rang Costco regarding the Michelin Pilot sport 2's, I was told that they are rated 91Y and "NOT" XL. Also, I looked at some W rated Avon ZV3 which were cheap(£66), but they told me that they weren't rated high enough for my GTI and could invalidate my insurance. I then checked my original Conti 2's and found them to be W rated. Confused :rolleye:
The originals Contis should have been 94Y XL .. They were on mine (2007 Model year).
You need XL tyres for a GTI and those Pilots from Costco have too low a load rating (prolly why they're cheap).
The pilots should be Michelin Pilot Sport 2 92Y Extra Load.
A la :
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Extra Load Michelin Pilot Sport 2 in 225/40zr18 92Y on my slightly worn Monzas :happy2:
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Been using Goodyear Eagle F1's of one type or another for a number of years and find them to be very good both in dry and wet conditions. Can't comment on Michelin's as Iv'e not used any. :smiley:
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Everything I hear about the Falken 452's seems to be very positive - I may give them a shot as my fronts need replacing soon....
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I'm not on commission honestly but the falkens are absolutely outstanding for any money, let alone the money they are selling for. Oddly enough the 18" fitment is a little bit cheaper than the 17" :surprised:
I would highly highly recommend them.
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Finally settled on the Goodyear F1's and stick with what i know. Got them for £105 fitted ea. Was very tempted with the Michelins, but haven't seen any that are extra load in 17". Thanks for all your replies :happy2:
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Perfect choice IMO :happy2:
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Is 225/40 ZR18 92Y XL the correct size/load rating etc please ?.
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Is 225/40 ZR18 92Y XL the correct size/load rating etc please ?.
Yes it is.. perfect.
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Getting some Falkens (452) fitted tomorrow, so I'll let you know what they are like.
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Getting some Falkens (452) fitted tomorrow, so I'll let you know what they are like.
Im thinking of getting these - so will be very interested to hear your thoughts ;)
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Is 225/40 ZR18 92Y XL the correct size/load rating etc please ?.
Yes it is.. perfect.
............. :happy2: thanks.
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Getting some Falkens (452) fitted tomorrow, so I'll let you know what they are like.
Im thinking of getting these - so will be very interested to hear your thoughts ;)
Well I've fitted them onto the back so I can get the older tyres scrubbed down quickly on the front, and so far they have been great despite the wet conditions today. The real test will be when I purchase another two for the front in a few weeks.
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Price if you don't mind please ?.
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Price if you don't mind please ?.
£75 each, fitted, balanced and case disposal. :smiley:
Edit. Thats the 18's too.
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Thanks mate thats great value. :happy2:
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Yoko Parada Spec 2's FTW! :laugh:
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Correct me if im wrong :-
Arent all tyres merley the same ? - to me most tyres you just pay for the name/brand.
I have some some 19" tyres on my BBS rims - they are called SUNNY
What are your thoughts on this. ?
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