MK5 Golf GTI
General => Product Reviews => Topic started by: Tamiyoman on May 06, 2012, 08:29:54 pm
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Ok guys n gals, my first full written review.
Disclaimer:- I paid the full price for this exhaust system of £1075 and have the receipt to prove it!, (**EDIT as a certain few people were questioning this I added my receipt to the pictures below :evilgrin:), there are no financial incentives/gifts or otherwise for me to write this review and I am in no way affiliated to BCS nor sell or manufacture any parts for cars, it was written solely for the purposes that others may be as happy with their own system as I am with mine. Now thats cleared up let's get on with my 1st review:-
Why did I choose BCS over its main competitors? (Milltek, APR RSC, Scorpion, Blueflame, Jetex etc)?.
I chose to buy the BCS 3" Powervalve TBE after considering many things (Quality/Price/Availability/Service/Options available/Sound/Looks/and Individuality), I also read on lots of forums that the Milltek exhausts suffer "Cracking" issues (Cracks appearing mainly on Downpipes but others report cracks in other places, so this put me off a little!), Milltek replaced the majority (If not all?) under warranty but I did not want the hassle!.
As someone who generally tries to swerve away from the mass market products and support smaller companies I had lots of decisions to make before selecting an exhaust company to go with as the first of my planned mods (after all its a large slice of money to spend on a car!).
Price wise it costs less than both the APR RSC (£1300) and the Milltek systems (£1120-1260) which were the other systems I considered.
The service I received was excellent, I felt like a part of it, and was provided with coffee regularly (The 2 toilet stops on the way home will attest to that! :grin:), I was also allowed to ask any questions and was allowed to take all the pics I wanted to and watch it being fitted and ask questions along the way, great so far!.
There are several options available, they do 3 different types for the TFSI or TSI cars, the first is the "Sports" system which I would compare with a Milltek Non resonated system, the second called "Prestige" with larger silencers for those who want nice and quiet all the time and compares well to the resonated Milltek Apparently being very similar to both the std system and milltek resonated in noise levels, the third option is the "Epic/Powervalve" system.
After considering all the above options and also considering that most folks on here seem to have Milltek TBE with a few APR and Blueflame systems dotted around and as I usually prefer something different to the masses it was an easy choice and the fact that the system fitted to my car is the very FIRST TBE 'Powervalve' system fitted really is the icing on the cake, I was told that my 'Powervalve' system was only finished 16hrs before I turned up for fitting :notworthy: finding out that did make me feel involved in something new which was great, I wish them the best of luck with it.
Sourcing:-
Available from BCS currently in St. Helens (They are moving to larger premises soon) Nige is a member on here "nige bcs"
Fitting:-
With removal of the Old system and running the feed for the 'Powervalve' (Taken from the turbo via a "T" piece and run down the car under the undertray) and fitting of the new system including me taking pics here and there and asking questions was approx 2.5 to 3hrs, being the first one lots of pictures were taken by me and the BCS guys so fitting may be less time for others :happy2:
Other versions/options available;-
Milltek Non-Res and Milltek Res, APR RSC, Blueflame, Scorpion, Jetex etc.
Plus Points:-
Price (£100 cheaper than Milltek), Quality (Quality of Welding is awesome!), Service, 3 different options to choose from (something for everyone!) and that NO ONE else does a valved system (Which BSC have named 'Powervalve' and own the copyright to!), they are serious about making the best products and also putting customers needs first along with bringing new tech to the market.
Minus Points.
Apart from the trek from Norfolk to St Helens, no complaints :happy2: :happy2:
Summary
While the system was being fitted I was asking questions (and drinking coffee) and found out that they have spent nearly a year developing this new valved system, they told me that some car manufacturers use Valves to control sound and db limits but via a vacuum operated system, whereas BCS have developed theirs to use Turbo pressure to operate the valve.
When the exhaust was laid out on the floor for me to see, it was immediately apparent to me that it was very shiny (Magpie time!) and the guy who did the welding was clearly VERY good gifted with a welder, One of my mates is a welder and he was the first person to see it after I had got home and when he looked under the car it was the first thing he commented on, saying that the welding was excellent (i was chuffed!), I actually got to meet the guy who did the welding (Paul) who was a top chap as it was he who was fitting the exhaust rather than Dave who was going to be doing it, but due to a mountain biking accident (which involved plates and titanium screws, ouch :sad1:) he could only watch as it was done, hope you heal soon Dave!.
From personal experience (having now covered 4000+ miles since fitting) the system is nice and quiet when pootling around, no louder I would say than the std system (altho a slightly deeper tone), where it differs vastly is when the car hits around 3000rpm you hear the exhaust note start to change as the valve starts to open then by approx 4000rpm its sounding very nice and fruity indeed :drool:, this is done via a section of 3" straight through when the valve is open (you can see it in the pictures below), the valve is opened using "Boost" pressure from the turbo, It also has a lovely "Whump" on the DSG gear changes and from high revs backing off gives some lovely over-run burble :drool:
Added benefits are the valve being closed when the car is "Off Boost" it helps to keep low down torque but when valve is open "On Boost" it helps to allow max power possible, best of both worlds IMO.
Anyone considering a new System (Cat Back or Turbo Back) should consider the BCS 'Powervalve' system, cannot recommend the guys highly enough.
Pictures for you:-
Sorry but the down Pipe with 200 cell cat was fitted before I got my camera out!
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The all important Valve which does the magic, when the valve is closed at low rpm the gasses are forced through the smaller front pipe through the silncer, when the valve opens it allows the gasses to escape through the 3" straight through pipe :happy2:, some will call it witchcraft, others will call it engineering :happy2:
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Most of the system shown.
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close up of the valve fitted
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Rear section
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Tailpipes underneath
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Close up of the 80mm Rolled in trims.
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How others see it
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My Reciept :happy2: (Cheaper than Milltek :evilgrin:)
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Great review. That looks a lovely piece of work too :happy2:
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I think this might be the system I go with on my car
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Great review! I was talking to them a couple of weeks ago as they're only 30 mins from me and was interested in the black tips they do.
They said you was coming in to get it fitted and 2 or 3 others had already paid for theirs too so seemed quite popular already. I like the way the 'powervalve' works too.
I was speaking to Nigel and one of the other lads who looked like he'd been in the wars with his hand in some sort of a brace. They explained everything in detail, showed me any samples they had and answered all questions I had, spending nearly an hour chatting to me even though they knew I wasn't planning on buying anything.
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I'm very intreasted in this system but nige told me it won't connect to my milltek sportscat..
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I think this might be the system I go with on my car
I am loving it so far mate, nice bunch of lads at BCS too.
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Great review! I was talking to them a couple of weeks ago as they're only 30 mins from me and was interested in the black tips they do.
They said you was coming in to get it fitted and 2 or 3 others had already paid for theirs too so seemed quite popular already. I like the way the 'powervalve' works too.
I was speaking to Nigel and one of the other lads who looked like he'd been in the wars with his hand in some sort of a brace. They explained everything in detail, showed me any samples they had and answered all questions I had, spending nearly an hour chatting to me even though they knew I wasn't planning on buying anything.
Yes they told me there were several forum members who had already signed up for one.
They spent about an hour and a half with me explaining options when I went to visit them a few months back and took me for a test ride in Dave's demo GTI, that pretty much sealed the deal for me :happy2:
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I'm very intreasted in this system but nige told me it won't connect to my milltek sportscat..
Sorry to hear that mate, maybe someone will buy your Milltek sports cat?
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I'm very intreasted in this system but nige told me it won't connect to my milltek sportscat..
Sorry Dan
I may have misled you.
We can connect to the Milltek- but will need to do the installl to create the adapter.
Cheers
Nige
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Price, Quality, Service, 3 different options to choose from (something for everyone!) and that NO ONE else does a valved system (Which BSC have named 'Powervalve' and own the copyright to!), they are serious about making the best products and also putting customers needs first along with bringing new tech to the market.
....Milltek offer an AEV (Active Exhaust Valve).
I assume that the BCS Epic version is the one with their Powervalve.
Methinks you are now going to be doing a lot of motoring at ~4,000 revs! Enjoy! :happy2:
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I have met Dave & dealt with Nige and they are great to deal with. Im very happy with my system, also a 1st (on a Leon Cupra)
I dont have the powervalve but love the sound. Dave showed me a few design points that improve on my previous Miltek TBE
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I have met Dave & dealt with Nige and they are great to deal with. Im very happy with my system, also a 1st (on a Leon Cupra)
I dont have the powervalve but love the sound. Dave showed me a few design points that improve on my previous Miltek TBE
Hi Mike, I was shown the differences on the Downpipe between BCS and Milltek as they had a couple of Milltek DP's there (Taken off a customer car and replaced with BCS), I am no expert but you could see the differences. :happy2:
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Dont know if the Miltek was the same on your car but the DP came out of the turbo at such an angle that the gear linkage cables rubbed up/down the DP :confused:
My lower bracket broke twice & the flanges on the Miltek weren't as good as they should be for the money (it was vRS Alex who pointed the flange out to me and improved/strengthened it when I sold it to Justin 'h4dy')
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If this valve is closed below 4000 rpm does it lower the power of that area.
ie most of our driving is done below 4k so will the car be less responsive
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If this valve is closed below 4000 rpm does it lower the power of that area.
ie most of our driving is done below 4k so will the car be less responsive
....He says it keeps low down torque.
Personally I want to hear my exhaust all through the whole rev range from a standstill and to do so in a naturally progressive way and not with any sudden changes.
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If this valve is closed below 4000 rpm does it lower the power of that area.
ie most of our driving is done below 4k so will the car be less responsive
....He says it keeps low down torque.
Personally I want to hear my exhaust all through the whole rev range from a standstill and to do so in a naturally progressive way and not with any sudden changes.
I dont think it lowers the power at all with the valve being closed, it just silences it more (almost std sounding having 2 silencers) and still keeps low down torque (best of both worlds IMO), meaning its nice and quiet for pootling around so as not to upset the local bed wetters and also I dont feel like a Bit of a cock Boy Racer, but when your out of the villages/town on the open road it achieves it's sportier tone by bypassing the larger silencer, it does not feel less responsive in the low rev range, it definately feels more responsive as the system diameter is much larger and more free flowing than std system even with the valve closed (larger overall diameter and 200 cell CAT is going to flow gasses quicker than VW exhaust :happy2:).
The valve starts to open at 3500rpm and (would estimate) is fully open by around 4000rpm, you cannot "feel" a step in power or anything (Its not like a Civic hitting second set of cams :grin:) you just feel it is more sporty sounding and and it wants to go!, I am sure the Stage 2 remap and Intake system will allow it to achieve more as currently its running stock VW map and is not set up for the new exhaust yet!.
As for wanting the sound all the time, well ETTO on that, but when i'm Pootling around I did not want a "sporty/raspy/loud" exhaust as where I live there are way too many "Stick wavers" for that (Old people), I can cruise past them and not one stick is waved at me angrily (as dont forget the roads belong to old people :grin:) but when I am away from the villages on open roads I can enjoy myself a bit and let the exhaust do its thing.
That is what I wanted and what I got, had I wanted sporty all the time I would probably have gone for the BCS "Sport" system, but after making clear to Nige and Dave that at 39 I considered myself to be beyond wanting a constantly sporty sound (for above reasons) it was decided I would go with the new tech.
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
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the price is too high
Perhaps if you watch your mpg, you might save enough pennies for one! :grin:
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
Its a shame you already have a Downpipe as im pretty sure the full TBE system I bought is cheaper than the milltek TBE :happy2:
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
Its a shame you already have a Downpipe as im pretty sure the full TBE system I bought is cheaper than the milltek TBE :happy2:
I dont have a high flow DP.
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the price is too high
Perhaps if you watch your mpg, you might save enough pennies for one! :grin:
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
Its a shame you already have a Downpipe as im pretty sure the full TBE system I bought is cheaper than the milltek TBE :happy2:
I dont have a high flow DP.
Save another few pennies and get the full system then, problem sorted :signLOL:
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
Its a shame you already have a Downpipe as im pretty sure the full TBE system I bought is cheaper than the milltek TBE :happy2:
I dont have a high flow DP.
Save another few pennies and get the full system then, problem sorted :signLOL:
No. I don't want stage 2 power. Stage 1 is plenty for road use.
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
Its a shame you already have a Downpipe as im pretty sure the full TBE system I bought is cheaper than the milltek TBE :happy2:
I dont have a high flow DP.
Save another few pennies and get the full system then, problem sorted :signLOL:
No. I don't want stage 2 power. Stage 1 is plenty for road use.
Fair enuff Rich, I am going stage 2 and I should be happy with that, anything over 300 is OK with me. :happy2:
Maybe you will change your mind later on?, seriously I dont think you can have too much power?, its only an extra 15-25hp :grin: :happy2:
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Hey guys
Just for the purpose of clarification, the valve is boost activated, not revs activated, which effectively means that as demand is created for more gas flow the valve is activated to allow this transfer to take place, hence the fluid action created.
In simple terms the car can be running at 5000rpm without the turbo under load, and therefore not generating boost, similarly the demand for boost can begin to be noticeable as low as 2000rpm (It's only a bad boy when it needs to be :innocent:)
Cheers
Nige
PS I would publish the full blurb and inspiration behind the design on here but sadly am not able to :sad1:
However, if anyone wishes to pm me aI am happy to let you have the full story.
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Nice review Tamiyoman, now upload a video :happy2:
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My problem is using my Iphone its not great quality, I can record the sound static but not driving by yet, problem is I live in middle of nowhere, my mates all live 150+ miles away :signLOL:
Will get a static video uploaded soon.
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Will hopefully get a video tomorrow while at Jabba on the Rolling Road so you can hear the exhaust.
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Id love to get a just a cat back of this, but IMO the price is too high (even tho i'm sure its a great piece of kit)
Its a shame you already have a Downpipe as im pretty sure the full TBE system I bought is cheaper than the milltek TBE :happy2:
I dont have a high flow DP.
Save another few pennies and get the full system then, problem sorted :signLOL:
No. I don't want stage 2 power. Stage 1 is plenty for road use.
+1 and for pretty much everything else.
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Great review! If i was considering a new system then for me this would be the one to go for.... im not one for loud exhausts and this is the sole factor that has stopped me from ever having an aftermarket one fitted.
I 'like' this :happy2:
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Yes, in my eyes its the best of both worlds.
Short clip of exhaust on the RR, this was the run to test stock power (243bhp) and I was outside the door at the time as I did not get into the booth in time :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1050.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs405%2Ftamiyoman%2Fth_IMG_0814.jpg&hash=c07ed941bce86863821fdaf7b8608e5582e340f0) (http://s1050.photobucket.com/albums/s405/tamiyoman/?action=view¤t=IMG_0814.mp4)
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Great review, looks lovely and very well made!!
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Cheers, its settling in nicely now
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Looks good, they hadn't finished this system when I bought my BCS exhaust, I got the prestige system and can't fault it, I m always getting comments on how it sounds!
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Looks good, they hadn't finished this system when I bought my BCS exhaust, I got the prestige system and can't fault it, I m always getting comments on how it sounds!
Yes I waited a few months and was lucky enough to get the first one made fitted to my car :pomppomp:
Love the sound of it and even a couple of my mates with Scoobies say it sounds good :happy2:
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Love the sound of it and even a couple of my mates with Scoobies say it sounds good :happy2:
....But Scoobie drivers lost their ability to hear anything shortly after they bought their cars! :evilgrin:
I don't doubt your BCS sounds great :happy2:
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Love the sound of it and even a couple of my mates with Scoobies say it sounds good :happy2:
....But Scoobie drivers lost their ability to hear anything shortly after they bought their cars! :evilgrin:
I don't doubt your BCS sounds great :happy2:
Very true, both of them are mutton Jeff :happy2:
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Here is my receipt for the exhaust, few people it seems wanted proof I did actually pay for the exhaust. :stupid:
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Yeh!! but they are 4 grand new. :popcornsoda:
Just noticed too!, So thats how you spell your name. :grin: Told ya. :innocent:
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Yeh!! but they are 4 grand new. :popcornsoda:
Just noticed too!, So thats how you spell your name. :grin: Told ya. :innocent:
Ring Nige/Dave and ask him how much they are, for you they may well quote £4k (or more likely do it free on the quiet what with you bein a Mod an all :wink:) :grin:
Being "Lower cost" than a Milltek (With better build quiality IMHO), price shown is price for most buyers (I ain't no different to the next guy who bought one)
Dave noticed the typo at the time of printing it, but I was not bothered about it, saved messing round.
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Who cares what you paid :rolleye: if its a good system then time will tell and as long as your happy then that's all that matters
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Who cares what you paid :rolleye: if its a good system then time will tell and as long as your happy then that's all that matters
.... x 2 :happy2:
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Who cares what you paid :rolleye: if its a good system then time will tell and as long as your happy then that's all that matters
My point was that certain members on here were (and have done in several other posts) blatantly commented insinuated that I did not pay for my exhaust, which I did, hence the receipt to prove it :P
So far so good, every day it makes me smile :happy2:
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Still if you paid or did not an invoice proves nothing so it's pointless and what's it got to do with any one else as its just your view on a product let people make the choice they want and if your view helped then that's good but it's up to them to choose a cracking product :evilgrin: or something else. Life's too short for stupid crap like did you pay for it rubbish seriously guys :rolleye:
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Still if you paid or did not an invoice proves nothing so it's pointless and what's it got to do with any one else as its just your view on a product let people make the choice they want and if your view helped then that's good but it's up to them to choose a cracking product :evilgrin: or something else. Life's too short for stupid crap like did you pay for it rubbish seriously guys :rolleye:
Well an invoice proves I did pay for it :signLOL:
But agree that those who insinuated that I did not pay for it (you know who you are!) need to get a life and understand that those who have bought BCS and speak about them are just trying to extol the benefits of their systems against the competition because we believe them to be good :happy2:
Rant over......
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An invoice proves nothing as a credit note can also be printed :signLOL:
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An invoice proves nothing as a credit note can also be printed :signLOL:
Well when BCS do their accounts (Or VAT returns), you can check on companies house for my refund then, you won't find it as they did not refund me :happy2:
That proves it :signLOL: :signLOL:
Before you say they could have given me cash in return, I would like proof of this :happy2:
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I'm also in Norfolk Tamiyoman. Any chance I can listen to this beast?
So tempted by this BCS Powervalve system.
Just want to hear one to make my mind up.
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Justin aka h4rdy very kindly let me drive his Ed30 with BCS exhaust on Saturday. It's not the 'Powervalve' version but I was very impressed by the sound - Very distinctive and can be heard all the time but without being at all intrusive.
It's not the Prestige quieter one.
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I had several mates out in my car with the BCS powervalve system fitted last thursday and several were actually dissapointed by the lack of sound inside the car.
Yesterday i drove with some mates, them using their own car and afterwards they stated that when the valve opened they were concerned i wouldn't be able to attend trackdays from now on due to noise levels :evilgrin: :signLOL:
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I'm also in Norfolk Tamiyoman. Any chance I can listen to this beast?
So tempted by this BCS Powervalve system.
Just want to hear one to make my mind up.
Sorry mate, would love to help but I moved to Cornwall in August :happy2:
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Sneaky peak of the 'Powervalve' for those wanting to hear the sound (apologies for the wind noise)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh269%2Fnigeblueflame%2FVW%2Fth_Powervalvetest1.jpg&hash=6e0ade7753307c9ac6c56f1db920eb8a08becb43) (http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/nigeblueflame/VW/?action=view¤t=Powervalvetest1.mp4)
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Sweet :happy2:
Will be buying in the New year!
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Sneaky peak of the 'Powervalve' for those wanting to hear the sound (apologies for the wind noise)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh269%2Fnigeblueflame%2FVW%2Fth_Powervalvetest1.jpg&hash=6e0ade7753307c9ac6c56f1db920eb8a08becb43) (http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/nigeblueflame/VW/?action=view¤t=Powervalvetest1.mp4)
Lordy! That really does sound lovely Nige! :notworthy: think I'll be heading in your direction next year as well. Keep up the good work.
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Already shared this at FB :wink:
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where is the valve located. is it on the downpipe or catback?
I have a miltek DP, but if i upgrade to a full tbe, the system must have a valve, becausei dont like loud cars for daily use
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Hi there
the valve is on the cat back - but sadly we cannot retro fit to a Milltek DP as the joining positions are different.
Sorry :sad1:
Nige
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:sad1: :sad1:
Saved me some money i guess :laugh:
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:sad1: :sad1:
Saved me some money i guess :laugh:
Give SteveP a PM he can help you. :wink:
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Why does he work for milltek
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Why does he work for milltek
PG has been designing and making these powervalve thingies for ages for certain cars in Millteks Range, i think it was the top end Mercs. :happy2:
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Pretty sure they started making them for Audi RS4/6 which were fitted with the valve opening "Sport" button (On the dash), Milltek followed Audi's system and increased the flow rates over std exhaust (Sounds much better, youtube is your friend!) :happy2:
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Thanks for very informative post.
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Pretty sure they started making them for Audi RS4/6 which were fitted with the valve opening "Sport" button (On the dash), Milltek followed Audi's system and increased the flow rates over std exhaust (Sounds much better, youtube is your friend!) :happy2:
They also now have a few vehicles with can bus based interfaces and electrically control the valves, like TC said high end Mercs (C63, CLS63 AMG etc) and now Audis like the S4, S5 and next will be the RS6 V10.
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I had my BCS Powervalve Sport R32 style TBE fitted on Friday and to say I'm ecstatic is an understatement.
It is exactly what I was looking for. It looks amazing and its quiet (slightly above stock) when pootling along (off boost) but absolutely brilliant when you hit the (now literally) ‘loud’ pedal :jumpmove:
I think it’s about time I got my members ride thread going as there are a few major mods done now :happy2:
P.S. Big thanks to Nige, Dave and Paul :happy2:
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Thanks Kal
Glad you're happy bud :happy2:
Cheers
Nige
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Nigel,
Can the powervalve we retrofitted to a older style BCS System?
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Hi there
Yes the centre silencer would need swapping out and then the valve plumbing in...
Cheers
Nige
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Nigel,
Thanks for your quick response. Would you mind PM'ing me a quote for this work please.
Regards,
Sean
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PM'd :happy2:
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Was the original article about the sports cat version or the de-catted on?
If one was to go for a de-catted version, can the cat just be slotted in?
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Was the original article about the sports cat version or the de-catted on?
If one was to go for a de-catted version, can the cat just be slotted in?
If downpipe is made for this swap option then yes, i have that option on my BCS turboback :happy2:
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Was the original article about the sports cat version or the de-catted on?
If one was to go for a de-catted version, can the cat just be slotted in?
If downpipe is made for this swap option then yes, i have that option on my BCS turboback :happy2:
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I had the 200 cell race cat fitted, great sounding system, but sold it when car went back to std when I put it up for sale in January, exhaust sold next day (Car Sold in 8 days)
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Was the original article about the sports cat version or the de-catted on?
If one was to go for a de-catted version, can the cat just be slotted in?
If downpipe is made for this swap option then yes, i have that option on my BCS turboback :happy2:
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I had the 200 cell race cat fitted, great sounding system, but sold it when car went back to std when I put it up for sale in January, exhaust sold next day (Car Sold in 8 days)
Coos stuff thanks. Been talking to nige and probably gunna get the same one as you as apparently there is no difference in output.
Was the original article about the sports cat version or the de-catted on?
If one was to go for a de-catted version, can the cat just be slotted in?
If downpipe is made for this swap option then yes, i have that option on my BCS turboback :happy2:
Nice! That's helpful to know :laugh:
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he builds good stuff does Nige, you will be well happy with whatever you get from him, now if only he made a sports system for 330D touring :signLOL:
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Actuallly..... :grin:
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:signLOL:
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Any vids with a mk5 R32 system?
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Not a powervalve system as I've got a diesel but nevertheless still a BCS exhaust.
Really great service from these guys as they do aim to please and it shows.
Really happy with mine Nige and I'm sure I'll see you again come car change time.
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Thanks Kev - as ever your car's credit to you bud :happy2:
Cheers
Nige
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I thought i'd finally get a sound clip of the BCS system sound on/off boost, the clip dosn't really do it justice but you'll get the idea :cool:
Just a shame that on this outing i seem to have blown the turbo ?
Getting it checked out tomorrow only smokes when oil is hot and on boost ?(around 7 mins on vid) so i pressume its getting past the turbo seals
K04 Time then :smiley:
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Looks like I'll be going down the BCS route when I get my MK5!
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Looks like I'll be going down the BCS route when I get my MK5!
You won't be disappointed mate,had one for my ed30 & just brought one for my golfR..brilliant piece of engineering & design with top notch after sales
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You won't be disappointed mate,had one for my ed30 & just brought one for my golfR..brilliant piece of engineering & design with top notch after sales
Thanks Dan, just hear more and more good things about these systems! :innocent:
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Finally managed to get one of these beauties fitted last week-ish by Alex AKS.
Went for a full system, de-cat, 3" pipe and some fattt tails which look wicked. oh, and it's R32 styleeee with my new bumper.
As I cannot drive fast atm (as I have the incorrect map for the car), I have to drive off boost and generally below 3-4k revs. Self-induced but I don't want problems!
When I first saw my golf with it, I was happy, very happy. The R32 back looked mighty fine and tips protruding out meant business. Nice noise on start had me in awe, but it's not too loud at all (compared to mates remus decat on his VXR). Anyway, louder than standard, enough to go "what's that", but not enough to go "it's a chavvy VXR".
So to date, I haven't been above 4k, but the noise as I gently accelerated got louder and louder. I wanted to continue but decided the month wait is worth it, and I don't want anything wrong. It's already on slightly dodgy ground (but somehow i'm getting 45-50 mpg!).
Had the oppertunity to overtake a oblivious to anything driver yesterday and did a clean overtake without going above 4k, the noise = awesome and no doubt the driver of overtaken vehicle was left in no doubt that the golf wasn't best pleased (or a better car :laugh:).
Anyway, I will update later on when the maps complete. My drive from rtech to home will be gopro'd so hopefully get a good video. The video will be entitled 'Golf GTI going crazy'. Read into that what you may, but one things for sure, the sound will be completely crazy if what i'm getting at 3/4k is replicated higher up.
The fitting is perfect from when I had the golf jacked up yesterday and design flawless. I'll do some more on this when the maps on. I'll take it to friends workshop and get it on the ramp there aswell for some photos.
Alex AKS has some photos which I might be able to steal from him :evilgrin:
Nige - finally bought one in the end! Long time coming since we spoke in March!!
One question - apart from normal 'washing', how is best to keep the tips nice and shiny?
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Welcome to the club Jonny. The exhaust is brilliant...just wait till you can use the full rev range :jumping:
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^^^^ :evilgrin: :happy2:
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^^^^ :evilgrin: :happy2:
Yeah,just wait until you give it the beans :happy2:
How's the bcs mate
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^^^^ Alright Danny! :drinking:
Zorst is great buddy, LOVE IT. Car spends more time on boost, than off!! :laugh:
Does your sound any different (or better) on your R then on the Eddy?
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^^^^ Alright Danny! :drinking:
Zorst is great buddy, LOVE IT. Car spends more time on boost, than off!! :laugh:
Does your sound any different (or better) on your R then on the Eddy?
Hi mate,it's a completely different sound,I say they both sound good...I know wot u mean by keep it on boost