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Title: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: nathangallo on May 10, 2012, 06:32:31 pm
Need to replace the rear two any time soon just wondering what you may recommend with a budget of around £60-£75 I bought two khumos for the front but I find them quite loud. So just seeing what is out there for my 18" monzas :)

Thanks
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: spankydan on May 10, 2012, 07:02:09 pm
Falken FK452's IMO.

Not used them on a Golf but have used them on plenty of other vehicles. Try Camskill http://www.camskill.co.uk/
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: neil86 on May 10, 2012, 07:08:43 pm
My falkens fk452 were horrendously noisey, although on my mates Leon no were near as bad.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: jedi-knight83 on May 10, 2012, 07:14:02 pm
I've got 235/23/19 Kumho KU39 on my van and they feel and sounds and grip well.

The reviews rated the Falkens a fair bit worse than the Kumho.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/19-Inch-Tyres/235-35-19-Tyres.htm
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: nathangallo on May 10, 2012, 07:45:28 pm
I think they are the khumos on mine apart from that they are a good tyre so I don't know wether to go for the, again and have all 4 matching or try something different and swap wheels so they are on the front. Tyre shop mentioned gt's if anybody has had experience with these?
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Sug on May 10, 2012, 08:33:57 pm
Just fitted two new falkens to mine on the front 225/35/19 and there is a big difference with noise (louder) to the pirellis I had on previously apart from that grip seems fine
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Ben Smith on May 10, 2012, 08:57:35 pm
Tyres are my day job. There's loads of choice out there depending on your budget, but you really do get what you pay for. The 2 common complaints with the low profile, wide tyres most of us run are road noise and stepping (uneven wear usually on the inside). This is nearly always worse the cheaper the tyre. Unfortunately tyres seem to be something people cut costs on.

Nearly all of us are trying to make our cars quicker, better road holding in the corners and more importantly, under braking will do this without adding any bhp! Save the extra and get some premium rubber. :driver:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 10, 2012, 09:02:13 pm
Toyo Proxes T1r, been usin them for around 6 years now, great Tyres and in 225/40/18 are about £98 corner from Camskill  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Mk5 GTian on May 11, 2012, 04:48:54 am

These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  :grin:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 11, 2012, 07:49:47 am

These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  :grin:

Nicely put!

I went from Dunlop Sport Maxx to Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy and the difference was AMAZING!  :happy2: So much quieter and you honestly cant even tell when the roads are wet. Transformed the car  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: gazon69 on May 11, 2012, 08:14:41 am
Falken FK452's IMO.

Not used them on a Golf but have used them on plenty of other vehicles. Try Camskill http://www.camskill.co.uk/
452's are w4nk imo. Got them on now as a stop gap as i was desperate because my mate has to order decent tyres. As i said, i was desperate, will be going t1r's or f1 assys shortly
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: monte on May 11, 2012, 08:46:10 am
I bought some wheels once that came with nearly new Kuhmo's.
The Road noise was terrible!

I was 100% convinced I had a failed wheel bearing, when I put the Conti's on the noise disappeared!

Years ago I had Avon ZZ3 they were pretty good but they didn't last too long.

Toyo T1R's sound good to me  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: monte on May 11, 2012, 08:53:18 am
What about Uniroyal Rainsports?

Uniroyal were a massive brand in the past. Don't hear a right lot about em nowadays, but I'm sure they are still great tyres!

£92 a corner at camskill.  Id give em a try. Darren (MortyGtdi) buys these tyres. Ask him for an opinion!

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s134p60798/UNIROYAL_TYRES_CAR_UNIROYAL_RAINSPORT_2_UNIROYAL_RAIN_SPORT_2-_225_40R18_92Y_XL_FR_TL_
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Squeeguk on May 11, 2012, 08:54:14 am

These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  :grin:

I totally agree. I can never understand people skimping on the only contact you have with the road???? They had the same thing on the M3 forums, which really did my head in. 2 Rears used to cost me around the £500 mark for that car and only lasted around 10k to 12.5k miles and you had people coming along and wanting to put £50 tyres on what is essentially a rear drive supercar???? :scared:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 11, 2012, 08:58:51 am

Tyres are my day job. There's loads of choice out there depending on your budget, but you really do get what you pay for. The 2 common complaints with the low profile, wide tyres most of us run are road noise and stepping (uneven wear usually on the inside). This is nearly always worse the cheaper the tyre. Unfortunately tyres seem to be something people cut costs on.

Nearly all of us are trying to make our cars quicker, better road holding in the corners and more importantly, under braking will do this without adding any bhp! Save the extra and get some premium rubber.



These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  :grin:


^^^^ What they said!

Regardless of your car's performance each tyre has a contact area with the road surface which is only about the size of a CD. Do I need to point out anything further such as about braking, grip, and cornering? - It's all you have to rely on and worth being as safe as you possibly can.

To be fair, I have no experience of Falkens and Kuhmos but it's simply not a risk I'm prepared to take. I must assume that these tyres meet the specs to be valid for insurance.

And always fit new deeper tread tyres on the rear axle as Sticky Vicky explains (specially for Ian's pleasure):

http://www.etyres.co.uk/flashmovies/new-tyres-on-rear-800.html

On our FWD cars the tread will wear out more quickly on the front, so I buy just a pair of new tyres at a time and move the rear tyres to the front to make way for the new ones on the rear.

Having driven my GTI over 100,000 miles I find these the best allrounder for fast road use:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FEagleF1_Asym2_1503.jpg&hash=4c1e31ee18f87ac27c50b2f6d8126ec3b1e79aeb)

Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: titchy on May 11, 2012, 09:17:12 am
I was in a similar position on recommendation of mate in tyre shop I had some Coopers fitted i have to say Im very happy they are quiet grip well. I did 300 miles in pouring rain yesterday no aquaplaning and he tells me they wear well £72 each fitted balanced, bargain
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 11, 2012, 09:31:41 am

I was in a similar position on recommendation of mate in tyre shop I had some Coopers fitted i have to say Im very happy they are quiet grip well. I did 300 miles in pouring rain yesterday no aquaplaning and he tells me they wear well £72 each fitted balanced, bargain


....Never even heard of Coopers tyres.

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: blackmagic on May 11, 2012, 09:40:11 am
Don't give up redrobin there are plenty of use about who are prepared to wait a bit longer, read constuctive reviews / recommendations to get the best possible products for our cars. Well I do anyway!
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 11, 2012, 09:42:38 am
I rate the Toyo highly and they are great in the wet, its amazing how deep puddles done even unsettle the car which in a country where its done nothing but P155 down for the last 4 weeks comes in handy
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Vick N on May 11, 2012, 10:31:42 am
I've had every Performace tyre on a vast array of vehicles and for a All round tyres, parada spec II is a great choice.

Very sticky in the dry and excellent wet road holding.

My to cents worth.

Vick :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Oli on May 11, 2012, 10:59:50 am

Tyres are my day job. There's loads of choice out there depending on your budget, but you really do get what you pay for. The 2 common complaints with the low profile, wide tyres most of us run are road noise and stepping (uneven wear usually on the inside). This is nearly always worse the cheaper the tyre. Unfortunately tyres seem to be something people cut costs on.

Nearly all of us are trying to make our cars quicker, better road holding in the corners and more importantly, under braking will do this without adding any bhp! Save the extra and get some premium rubber.



These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  :grin:


^^^^ What they said!

Regardless of your car's performance each tyre has a contact area with the road surface which is only about the size of a CD. Do I need to point out anything further such as about braking, grip, and cornering? - It's all you have to rely on and worth being as safe as you possibly can.

To be fair, I have no experience of Falkens and Kuhmos but it's simply not a risk I'm prepared to take. I must assume that these tyres meet the specs to be valid for insurance.

And always fit new deeper tread tyres on the rear axle as Sticky Vicky explains (specially for Ian's pleasure):

http://www.etyres.co.uk/flashmovies/new-tyres-on-rear-800.html

On our FWD cars the tread will wear out more quickly on the front, so I buy just a pair of new tyres at a time and move the rear tyres to the front to make way for the new ones on the rear.

Having driven my GTI over 100,000 miles I find these the best allrounder for fast road use:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FEagleF1_Asym2_1503.jpg&hash=4c1e31ee18f87ac27c50b2f6d8126ec3b1e79aeb)



I agree with what Robin has said wholeheartedly. Never scrimp on tyres.

However I always put the new ones on the front. The new ones on the back theory is aimed a bit more at the inexperienced driver, to stop oversteer, etc . I always prefer to have the newer tyres on the front driven wheels on a FWD car - just my personal preference.  I know we all have different theories on this. In all my years of driving I have never had a problem with this.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: vRS_Pagey on May 11, 2012, 11:00:33 am
Falken FK452's IMO.

Not used them on a Golf but have used them on plenty of other vehicles. Try Camskill http://www.camskill.co.uk/
452's are w4nk imo. Got them on now as a stop gap as i was desperate because my mate has to order decent tyres. As i said, i was desperate, will be going t1r's or f1 assys shortly

+1, got under 5k out of a set on my vRS, I normally use Kumho and have been very happy with them, I have a dealer fairly local and the last pair I got were £150 fitted - 225/40 R18.  
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: dmcnewbury on May 11, 2012, 11:58:55 am
Personally Hankook V12 Evo's or Falken FK452's are perfectly good for the money - A tad noisy on my Octavia but I think that's more a characteristic of the car to be fair...

The Hankooks edge out the Falkens in most areas but are a fair bit more expensive...
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 11, 2012, 12:35:45 pm

The Hankooks edge out the Falkens in most areas but are a fair bit more expensive...


....Which tends to support what Ben Smith has posted:


Tyres are my day job. There's loads of choice out there depending on your budget, but you really do get what you pay for.


Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: gazon69 on May 11, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Save up and get some r1r's  :party: stick to the road like sh1t to a blanket.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Lone_Par on May 11, 2012, 02:46:57 pm
I'm no expert, but from looking around for tyres myself and various forums for information, I'd say you're looking at £100 a corner minimum for anything decent. Therefore is it not better just to save the extra £25 per corner and add that to your existing budget and get something decent? Just my opinion mate!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 11, 2012, 03:06:06 pm

I'm no expert, but from looking around for tyres myself and various forums for information, I'd say you're looking at £100 a corner minimum for anything decent. Therefore is it not better just to save the extra £25 per corner and add that to your existing budget and get something decent? Just my opinion mate!  :happy2:


....And by buying in pairs as the fronts on a FWD wear out quicker, the money you have to find at the time is a bit less than it would be by buying 4 new tyres.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: TANNER on May 11, 2012, 06:26:13 pm
What about Uniroyal Rainsports?

Uniroyal were a massive brand in the past. Don't hear a right lot about em nowadays, but I'm sure they are still great tyres!

£92 a corner at camskill.  Id give em a try. Darren (MortyGtdi) buys these tyres. Ask him for an opinion!

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s134p60798/UNIROYAL_TYRES_CAR_UNIROYAL_RAINSPORT_2_UNIROYAL_RAIN_SPORT_2-_225_40R18_92Y_XL_FR_TL_

+1 for rainsports.
I needed 4 so at £400 fitted went for it.
They are serving me well and with the current wet weather seem the best description for the job!!
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 11, 2012, 06:29:42 pm
.
Something which I understand from industry tyre experts is that different tyres can suit certain cars better than others. So in other words, just because a tyre has a great reputation it doesn't automatically mean it's the best for your car.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Ben Smith on May 11, 2012, 06:32:05 pm
Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Andy on May 11, 2012, 06:39:59 pm
Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.
sorry Ben you have it the wrong way round Cooper own Avon
http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/about-avon
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Ben Smith on May 11, 2012, 07:12:59 pm
My mistake, knew they were part of the same somehow. Most of them are these days. Think they still produce the avons as their premium brand and coopers as their mid range.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Andy on May 11, 2012, 07:24:57 pm
Yeah it seems so--am in the same trade as you  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Ben Smith on May 11, 2012, 07:31:32 pm
I'm still learning, working for the father inlaw to be since he set up on his own.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Andy on May 11, 2012, 07:44:43 pm
I'm still learning, working for the father inlaw to be since he set up on his own.
been doing tyres for 20 years now--thier is more to learn than people thing
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 11, 2012, 07:45:48 pm

Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.


sorry Ben you have it the wrong way round Cooper own Avon

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/about-avon

....Whoever owns who doesn't really effect Ben's point that a performance car needs a higher standard of tyre.

We never stop learning, guys!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Andy on May 11, 2012, 07:54:09 pm

Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.


sorry Ben you have it the wrong way round Cooper own Avon

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/about-avon

....Whoever owns who doesn't really effect Ben's point that a performance car needs a higher standard of tyre.

We never stop learning, guys!  :drinking:
Ben is right i always say to customers with cars like the gti to put good tyres on--Had a customer wanting to put cheap budget tyres on his 911  :stupid:..Am still learning stuff bout tyres  as well,it never stops :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: monte on May 11, 2012, 10:48:23 pm
Andy, what do you make of Uniroyal nowadays?

I remember them being a top brand in the 90's.

My dad was forever driving to any from Italy and always bought uniroyals set after set!

The ones I linked to earlier from camskill are a good price!

I know Darren (MortyGtdi) runs em.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Aweful_Truth on May 11, 2012, 11:00:08 pm
My falkens fk452 were horrendously noisey, although on my mates Leon no were near as bad.

i found them veeeeeery noisy as well, its like driving on pillows with my new ones can't remember what brand they are haha  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Ben Smith on May 12, 2012, 04:50:35 am
Like you say, uniroyals used to be a top brand and we sold a lot but we currently have two sets on the shelf waiting to go back to uniroyal with complaints. They have both stepped and got very noisy. We are 99% sure uniroyal will send them back and say nothing wrong with them and to be fair, one set has already had plenty of wear out of them, but the customer is always right! Seems to be they are just so soft in the side wall.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Andy on May 12, 2012, 05:15:41 am
Andy, what do you make of Uniroyal nowadays?

I remember them being a top brand in the 90's.

My dad was forever driving to any from Italy and always bought uniroyals set after set!

The ones I linked to earlier from camskill are a good price!

I know Darren (MortyGtdi) runs em.
they used to be popular in the 80 and 90's(remember the advert with the monkey)then they dissapeared for a while  but have made a come back with the one in your link--fittted loads with no complaints but as Ben mentions they are a bit soft,for a extre £10 the vredstein would get my vote or for the same amount of money the Hankook v12
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Mk5 GTian on May 12, 2012, 06:33:54 am

Tyres are my day job. There's loads of choice out there depending on your budget, but you really do get what you pay for. The 2 common complaints with the low profile, wide tyres most of us run are road noise and stepping (uneven wear usually on the inside). This is nearly always worse the cheaper the tyre. Unfortunately tyres seem to be something people cut costs on.

Nearly all of us are trying to make our cars quicker, better road holding in the corners and more importantly, under braking will do this without adding any bhp! Save the extra and get some premium rubber.



These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  :grin:


^^^^ What they said!

Regardless of your car's performance each tyre has a contact area with the road surface which is only about the size of a CD. Do I need to point out anything further such as about braking, grip, and cornering? - It's all you have to rely on and worth being as safe as you possibly can.

To be fair, I have no experience of Falkens and Kuhmos but it's simply not a risk I'm prepared to take. I must assume that these tyres meet the specs to be valid for insurance.

And always fit new deeper tread tyres on the rear axle as Sticky Vicky explains (specially for Ian's pleasure):

http://www.etyres.co.uk/flashmovies/new-tyres-on-rear-800.html

On our FWD cars the tread will wear out more quickly on the front, so I buy just a pair of new tyres at a time and move the rear tyres to the front to make way for the new ones on the rear.

Having driven my GTI over 100,000 miles I find these the best allrounder for fast road use:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FEagleF1_Asym2_1503.jpg&hash=4c1e31ee18f87ac27c50b2f6d8126ec3b1e79aeb)



I think they should use VBH for all government films. I'd do whatever they want. What's that expression about hands and putty?
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Mk5 GTian on May 12, 2012, 06:38:41 am

I was in a similar position on recommendation of mate in tyre shop I had some Coopers fitted i have to say Im very happy they are quiet grip well. I did 300 miles in pouring rain yesterday no aquaplaning and he tells me they wear well £72 each fitted balanced, bargain


....Never even heard of Coopers tyres.

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!
No don't give up Robin, I've taken an enormous amount on board from you and other wise old Mk 5er's, and have had a lot more enjoyment in a much safer manner as a result of that. My car is in much ruder health too, although I can't say the same for my bank account!  :grin:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 12, 2012, 09:45:02 am

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!



No don't give up Robin, I've taken an enormous amount on board from you and other wise old Mk 5er's, and have had a lot more enjoyment in a much safer manner as a result of that. My car is in much ruder health too, although I can't say the same for my bank account!  :grin:


....No, fear not, I'm not giving up on the forum but was just expressing exasperation - The subject of tyre safety and suitability for our performance cars is beyond that of individual opinion.

Besides, Nursey won't let me out - This forum is like Hotel California: "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave!"

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRR%2FIMG_1022.jpg&hash=c8f237b1ebd2baabffb211f43be4a08b4cdc484f)

^ Photo by another "old Mk5-er" called Top Cat.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Mk5 GTian on May 13, 2012, 05:59:21 am

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!



No don't give up Robin, I've taken an enormous amount on board from you and other wise old Mk 5er's, and have had a lot more enjoyment in a much safer manner as a result of that. My car is in much ruder health too, although I can't say the same for my bank account!  :grin:


....No, fear not, I'm not giving up on the forum but was just expressing exasperation - The subject of tyre safety and suitability for our performance cars is beyond that of individual opinion.

Besides, Nursey won't let me out - This forum is like Hotel California: "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave!"

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRR%2FIMG_1022.jpg&hash=c8f237b1ebd2baabffb211f43be4a08b4cdc484f)

^ Photo by another "old Mk5-er" called Top Cat.
Ha ha, nice picture RR. I was able to pass on some knowledge to a lad at cricket yesterday, who has 2 decent tyres on the front of his Type R civic, and 2 budget on the back. He was going to wait until they were illegal, but when I explained what you say about the cd-sized contact area between road and rubber, and making this the best possible rubber you can to avoid wrapping yourself around a tree, he gulped, and vowed to get some decent tyres on the back.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Baz300 on May 13, 2012, 01:00:15 pm
I had a m3 a few years ago and it came with falken tyres when I bought it.

I was always planning to get them changed but only a few weeks into having the car we had a very sunny day followed by very bad rain in the evening, I came to a corner at 40mph and the back end just lost it corrected it but it was too late and ended up rolling the car. I have taken the same corner at 80 plenty of times before and the golf with eagle f1s takes it at 60 in the wet no problem at all

When the car was inspected they noticed that all the tread on the rear tyres had warped and cracked and was probably the cause of the car losing control.

Since then I have only ever used decent tyres on all my cars ( had pilot sports on my golf gt tdi)
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: driver rider on May 13, 2012, 03:07:30 pm
Redrobin- please don't become exasperated by people who want to run a performance car on the cheap.  They'll learn the errors of their ways in due course. 

Ive been reading reviews on tyres for a while now....  I plan on changing all four tyres on my car as mine are wearing down.  I feel that goodyears would be my choice....the fact you've endorsed them has sealed the deal for me,  given the experience you have on running these cars. Just to let you know people do listen on here!
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Baz300 on May 13, 2012, 05:02:04 pm
For the ones that are on a budget you should maby  look into part worn tyres on eBay.

Plenty of good ones on the go
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: too hot on May 13, 2012, 05:30:16 pm
I have just bought some BBS CKs for the Scirocco and I`m going to wait till Costco do their deal on Michelin PS3`s.
It should be next month and they should be about 25% off.
Thats for a set of four mind :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: jedi-knight83 on May 14, 2012, 06:43:29 pm
I have just bought some BBS CKs for the Scirocco and I`m going to wait till Costco do their deal on Michelin PS3`s.
It should be next month and they should be about 25% off.
Thats for a set of four mind :happy2:
do costco do this deal on 19" tyres too? I have 225/40/18 PS3 at the moment and they are brilliant. If they do them in 225/35/19 or 225/35/19 at 25% off i'll have them.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: too hot on May 14, 2012, 07:51:32 pm
I have just bought some BBS CKs for the Scirocco and I`m going to wait till Costco do their deal on Michelin PS3`s.
It should be next month and they should be about 25% off.
Thats for a set of four mind :happy2:
do costco do this deal on 19" tyres too? I have 225/40/18 PS3 at the moment and they are brilliant. If they do them in 225/35/19 or 225/35/19 at 25% off i'll have them.

I hope so mate .I`m holding off waiting for the deal !!!
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: jedi-knight83 on May 14, 2012, 09:52:57 pm
how woud i get to hear about it when and if they do?
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: shortdan14 on May 15, 2012, 11:09:42 pm
hi guys,

I'm new but just to add. I've used Avon zz3, 225/40/18s on my last two cars. Reasonably priced. around £100 on camskill and they perform well in the dry and wet. They also look pretty good.  :smiley:

Dan
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 15, 2012, 11:13:55 pm
hi guys,

I'm new but just to add. I've used Avon zz3, 225/40/18s on my last two cars. Reasonably priced. around £100 on camskill and they perform well in the dry and wet. They also look pretty good.  :smiley:

Dan

....A Warm Welcome to the forum, Dan, but what were your last two cars and what do you have now?
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: MC71 on May 15, 2012, 11:24:47 pm
For the ones that are on a budget you should maby  look into part worn tyres on eBay.

Plenty of good ones on the go

 
I would REALLY not buy used tyres from anywhere let a loan the interweb where you don't get to probably see what your buying. Surely it's a false economy and one to be avoided, only my opinion.

I have not read "every" word of this thread (i know, i know) so this may have been said once or twice but there is a saying that's "buy cheap, buy twice!" FWIW I always buy Goodyear Eagle F1's and find them to be brilliant tyres. Bought 2 just yesterday from the Tyre Shopper online for £127 each fitted.
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: spankydan on May 16, 2012, 07:57:54 am
For the ones that are on a budget you should maby  look into part worn tyres on eBay.

Plenty of good ones on the go

Personally imo not a good suggestion same as second hand wheels.

Have people not lost sight of what the thread starter was after a mid range tyre? All is fair and well suggesting Toyo's, Michi, Conti and Goodyear but sounds like there is no room to stretch that far.

As the majority of tyre companies pick from each other and have psudo budget brands that are made in the same factory, same rubber, same construction.

Dan
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: ub7rm on May 16, 2012, 12:28:09 pm
Personally I wouldn't buy part worns either, but I bought a new car a few weeks ago and I didn't change the tyres on it and have no intention to.  I bet most of you wouldldn't either so I don't actually see whats wrong with the idea?  If I was on a budget it probably is a better option than buying brand new ditchfinders.

You can easily inspect the tyre so its easier to see any defects than on the tyres of a used car.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: john87 on May 16, 2012, 12:37:48 pm
I was quite impressed by the Avon ZZ3's on my last car, good wet and dry for the price, but they didn't last too long on the 2.2 remapped diesel. Maybe 9k miles...
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: R32UK on May 16, 2012, 01:06:55 pm
I bought budget tyres for the mps as it was going to be sold so didnt se the point in splashing out. I then aqua planned due to burst water pipe on a dry evening and smashed up the front of the car. Over £1k to repair the damage... and still waiting to get it back from the water company.

Even though the tyres were brand new, im pretty sure it was down to them. I would NEVER EVER fit budget tyres again. Some people will have to go through a similar scenario before they learn... I hope you dont.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: Gene Hunt on May 16, 2012, 03:00:21 pm
Personally I wouldn't buy part worns either, but I bought a new car a few weeks ago and I didn't change the tyres on it and have no intention to.  I bet most of you wouldldn't either so I don't actually see whats wrong with the idea?  If I was on a budget it probably is a better option than buying brand new ditchfinders.

You can easily inspect the tyre so its easier to see any defects than on the tyres of a used car.
..........same here. My local indi tyre dealer has loads of part worn(most from Germany) were there tyre laws are a lot tougher than here. Don't use them on my mk5 but when i had my mk2 GTI i always used decent brand part worns & never had a problem. The dealer always let me pick & choose the ones i wanted before fitting.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: shortdan14 on May 17, 2012, 11:04:33 pm
hi guys,

I'm new but just to add. I've used Avon zz3, 225/40/18s on my last two cars. Reasonably priced. around £100 on camskill and they perform well in the dry and wet. They also look pretty good.  :smiley:

Dan

....A Warm Welcome to the forum, Dan, but what were your last two cars and what do you have now?

cheers

I had a Mk4 golf GTI with coilovers and ARB then a standard Mk1 Leon Cupra R. just sold it as going away so now car less :(

on return in couple of months going to be on the prowl for a red edition 30.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: malaroo978 on May 18, 2012, 07:49:52 am
Just ordered two Goodyear f1 assy 2 for fitting next Friday :) £108 a tyre fitted. Replacing the Goodyear efficient grip that were on there when I got it. Will be putting these on the back with dunlop sport maxx tt on the front (still got 6mm on so cant justify wasting!)
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 18, 2012, 09:24:45 am

Just ordered two Goodyear f1 assy 2 for fitting next Friday :) £108 a tyre fitted. Replacing the Goodyear efficient grip that were on there when I got it. Will be putting these on the back with dunlop sport maxx tt on the front (still got 6mm on so cant justify wasting!)


....Until the fronts get down to ~2mm I've currently got Dunlop Sports Maxx TT's on the front and new Goodyear F1 Asymmetric2's on the back. Occasionally in a high speed bend it can cause the ESP to kick in. It's not a problem but to be expected when tyres are mixed because they have slightly different flex properties etc.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: malaroo978 on May 18, 2012, 10:22:15 am
Yer, I'd like to replace them all but doing it in 2 loads makes it easier on the wallet too!  :signLOL:

Did you notice any noise reduction after fitting the goodyears? Going on reviews the dunlops are pretty noisy compared but are currently on the back.
Title: Re: Mid range tyre recomendation
Post by: RedRobin on May 18, 2012, 10:46:05 am

Did you notice any noise reduction after fitting the goodyears? Going on reviews the dunlops are pretty noisy compared but are currently on the back.


....I'm not the right person to ask about tyre noise. I've never noticed any differences above the sound of my engine bay, intake, and exhaust. The only time I have been aware of tyre noise is in Hurdy's Ed30 on R888's which reminded me of sounding like an army lorry.