MK5 Golf GTI
General => Detailing => Topic started by: maxload on May 12, 2012, 01:39:40 pm
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I wasn't willing to part with £30 for 15ml of Gtechniq C5 Wheel Armour , so I took the Poorboys route. Spent last weekend polishing and sealing my wheels.
After some really sh*te weather in the week my wheels seemed to repel most of the crap.
Today all I needed to do was shampoo them and preasure wash and they came up like new again.
I guess the question is how long before I need to coat them again - time will tell.
Any thought's on your experiance on good wheel sealents....
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I go 6 months with Poorboys. I do put a wax over the top though.
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3-4 months IMO.
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4-6 months by waxing over the Poorboys sealant like Andrew does :happy2: All they need during that period is an easy shampoo and like you say they come up like new :jumpmove:
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i always use it over any other wheel sealant
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+1 took delivery of some this week and had a good clean yesterday and applied to the newly refurbed wheels. easy to work on but if left to dwell is a bit of a PITA to remove. Think I may used too much
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I go 6 months with Poorboys. I do put a wax over the top though.
I like it. A top coat of wax is a great idea for added protection :happy2:
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I'll remember this for when I get my wheels refurbed.
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+1 took delivery of some this week and had a good clean yesterday and applied to the newly refurbed wheels. easy to work on but if left to dwell is a bit of a PITA to remove. Think I may used too much
yep sounds like you put too much on and left it too long.
With sealants and waxes it's always best to apply thinly and evenly and build up coats by doing multiple applications, buffering off of course after each application.
With the wheel sealant i'm sure it will recommend a time to leave it on the wheels for before buffering off, i think it may be something like 15-20 mins off the top of my head but check the instructions - you can basically tell when it's ready to come off as it will haze.
Put 2 coats of sealant on and then 2 coats of wax and you'll be laughing :happy2:
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Poorboys recommend you leave this on for 5-10 minutes max.
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Poorboys recommend you leave this on for 5-10 minutes max.
There you go, i'd stick with that, any longer and you are getting into grafting territory in order to remove it - not impossible but certainly more work and for no greater benefit.
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I never got on with it and i now use FK1000p which seems to do a very good job.
I also have some GTechniq C5 but i haven't used it yet due to how well the FK is doing.
When i next give my a car a thorough clean i am going to do a direct comparison between FK1000p on one side of the car and C5 on the other side (referring to the wheels of course).
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I've just used Jetseal 109 for the first time so we'll see how I get on with that.
I am confused by the recommendations to put a top coat of wax on wheels - I did a thin coat of Collinite a while back and found that brake dust stuck to the wheels like never before.
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You need something that is specific to repelling brake dust. Hence FK1000p is good as it is a High Temp wax. GTechniq C5 is also apparently good as this works in a similar vein but at the nano level.
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I've just used Jetseal 109 for the first time so we'll see how I get on with that.
I am confused by the recommendations to put a top coat of wax on wheels - I did a thin coat of Collinite a while back and found that brake dust stuck to the wheels like never before.
even though it didn't repel the brake dust you can easily wash it off with a shampoo and no graft and be safe in the knowledge it didn't embed :happy2:
If you want to repel the dust see the recommendations by Carl, however your wheels are still going to get dirty at some stage, so may as well use whatever wax you have rather than forking out for specialist stuff - depends how serious you are about it all... :laugh:
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Poorboys vote from me, a loads of layers of some old Supernatural I still have that never gets used now in firmly in Meguires back pocket :grin:
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How many applications do you use Carl?
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I just use one coat of FK.
It's more down to the preparation and application than anything else.
When i clean the wheels i completely strip any existing layer of by cleaning with Bilberry wheel cleaner, Tardis, Iron-X and washing up liquid. I then IPA the wheel down twice and ensure it is bone dry. Then and only then do i apply the FK and let it cure for at least 30mins before buffing off.
The main thing that attracts me to FK is that it is a similar price to C5, seems to last just as well and i would literally 1000's of applications from one tin vs 4 - 6 wheels worth from one 30ml bottle of C5.
As said though i will do a direct side by side comparison when i next clean my car around July/Aug time.
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Yeah, my prep is identical, but I'm normally applying 2 coats of PBs and 2 of 476s.
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I don't have any experience/knowledge of 476 other than it is quite hard wearing. Is it a high temp wax?
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I don't have any experience/knowledge of 476 other than it is quite hard wearing. Is it a high temp wax?
It's not a high temperature wax. People are attracted to it because it is extremely durable. Lasts bloody ages.
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How is it holding up on your wheels?
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Yeah, incredibly well, but because I use it on my Detroits I perhaps don't notice the brake dust build up as much as if I applied it to silver wheels. But the 476s certainly lasts the 8 months the wheels are on my car.
Keen to try FK though if you only need 1 or 2 coats.
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As said i only use 1 coat and nothing else.
I might try 2 coats when i do a comparison against C5 :happy2:
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Anyone able to provide a direct comparison between FK 1000P and Auto Finesse Mint Rims?
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Not that i know of.
Have you tried a search on DW (if you're a member)?
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People are attracted to it because it is extremely durable. Lasts bloody ages.
I've never tried 476 and was very tempted to buy some , as I have heard its very long lasting.
I really can't see how the hell 15ml of C5 is going to coat four wheels properly , and at that price they can poke it.
I'll buy some 476 and use that over the top of the poorboys and see how that lasts :happy2:
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C5 is exactly the same as C1. You can coat a full car with 30ml so 4 wheels with 15ml is easy.
It has an extremely high spread ratio.
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C5 is exactly the same as C1. You can coat a full car with 30ml so 4 wheels with 15ml is easy.
It has an extremely high spread ratio.
I guess you get what you pay for at the end of the day. I could be tempted to try some :wink:
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I'm not sure it adds anything extra compared to/over FK1000p
But when I do a comparison I will be able to say definitively.
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Will wheel seal stop the white worm or whatvever its called happening on the polished monza wheels? Or is it just to make them easier to clean? Cheers Adam
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Just makes them easier to keep clean.
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Is there anything u can do to prevent it from happening?
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Get them refurbed in a different finish. Whiteworming is a known issue with all diamond cut wheels. The alternative is a refurb with a different lacquer which A1 Wheels do.