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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 07:26:46 pm

Title: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 07:26:46 pm
Right, I need some top tips to removing a bolt that refussssses to move......

The bolt is like this, but BIGGER. The blooody thing will not move and has now become slightly rounded. This is an internal bolt, I really need some tips to removing. Have tried a larger size, hammering it in.


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Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: sub39h on May 19, 2012, 07:30:50 pm
grind/saw a line into the head and use a flat head screw driver?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: MC71 on May 19, 2012, 07:33:25 pm
 :signLOL:

Beat me to it, just about to post the same thing!
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 07:36:35 pm
No good - the bolt needs some leverage in order to losen it < could not crack it with racket, hence why it kept slipping

The bolt in question is - the front seat belt bolt, lower one on the B pillar (floor)

Heating < If I was to warm the bolt would this losen the thread? what I am worried about would this also weaken the head and have a higher chance of snapping?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: jimk04 on May 19, 2012, 08:19:27 pm
Front seatbelt bolt + heat = carpets on fire!! :surprised: :scared:

Good quality 'mole grips' such as Visegrips.?

Take seat out to aid access?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 08:21:52 pm
lol - Carpets etc. would be removed  :happy2:

Can't mole grip it as it's slighly sunk, you would only be able to get pinch it, could not get a full side grip to twist it.
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: samdem on May 19, 2012, 08:33:27 pm
heat makes things expand? I'm guessing this would not be a good thing for your scenario..? maybe wrong.
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: simonp on May 19, 2012, 08:34:01 pm
Impact wrench?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 08:35:35 pm
Heating < was thinking expand, then cool to shrink it - would losen the thread.

Impact < going to see if the local garage can try this tomorrow. F**kers better not snap it.
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: 56OctyVRS on May 19, 2012, 08:38:55 pm
Me id just buy a new bolt and drill the old one out.
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 09:00:06 pm
i have got replacement bolts here. When you say drill them use a drill bit slightly smaller then the bolt and drill straight through the whole thing? What happens if part of the bol is still stuck to the thread? Total game over then?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Luka on May 19, 2012, 10:04:27 pm
Can you put an Allen socket into the bolt and just whack it with a hammer. Just shocking it to loosen it off. IIRC these bolts are thread locked.
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 10:09:38 pm
Kinda tried with a torx.


:surprised: Can anyone confirm is these are thread locked? and I f**ked if this is the case?

Those who have changed the B pillar trim must have been able to remove them? hoping mines just stuck
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: jon-tfsi on May 19, 2012, 10:11:03 pm
You could drill the centre and use an easi-out  :happy2:

Or use a small chisel or centre-pop and hammer on the outer edge to get it started, once started the original torx bit should work to get it out the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 10:15:25 pm
Jon - can you explain a bit more?

Whats an easi out?

hammer the edge < at an angle and try to turn it? would I not risk snaping the head off?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: jon-tfsi on May 19, 2012, 10:18:59 pm
the hammer and chisel/centre-pop method is very effective on siezed studs/bolts

If you search "easy out" on ebay the items will give a better description than i can this time on a sat night . . . . .  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 10:36:34 pm
MMmmmm likey likey..........drill in reverse, has a reverse thread which SHOULD losen the bolt.

So we know if these bolts are THREAD LOCKED? WD40 on the bolt would not help on this?


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Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: simonp on May 19, 2012, 10:36:55 pm
Dunno if a screw extractor will work very well on a threadlocked bolt. The problem is as they bite they cause the threads to expand, making them even tighter. As long as there is some form of drive left on the head an impact driver will be best. You will obviously need a bit of room for the swinging of an 'ammer, too!
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 10:42:12 pm
Thanks for ALL the info  :happy2: Think my plan has to be..............

1. Need a lube? don't think WD40 will be good enough what should I use?

2. Local garage tomorrow - give it some impact/air tool and hope it will shake it loose.
- will try a slightly larger torox
- and also hammered an over sizes socket to the outside

3. Gues have no choice but to drill it  :ashamed: scary  :ashamed: drill an easy-out
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: simonp on May 19, 2012, 10:43:22 pm
This is the sort I'm on about, not the air wrench type that tyre fitters use:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_530655_langId_-1_categoryId_165469
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 10:47:09 pm
Impact < does this TURN on impact? or is it just to IMPACT a bit into the bolt head?
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: mortygttdi on May 19, 2012, 11:22:58 pm
My drill was foobard this afternoon! there is no threadlock on these bolts you just need either a good splined socket hammered on the bolt or just drill it out which is what I had to do originally when I fitted the black headlining.

A good hss drill on slow speed will get it out no problem :happy2:

Darren
Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: Johnny_tro on May 19, 2012, 11:36:22 pm
 :happy2:  :wink:


Title: Re: Bloody Bolt(s)
Post by: simonp on May 20, 2012, 01:00:36 am
Impact < does this TURN on impact? or is it just to IMPACT a bit into the bolt head?

It turns when you twat it with a hammer.  :happy2: