MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Sammy on June 05, 2012, 11:50:32 pm
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What prices are to be expected from usual garages to do a engine swap and specialists too?
Also same for rebuilds? If at a position to have to change which one is the best to go for?
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alll depends what is up with the engine--but if your engine swapping put the s3 engine
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Would also like to know how much it would roughly cost to fit an s3 engine to my dsg gti.
Anyone know what I'm looking at and who to take it to?
Billy
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last time i got a engine changed it was £350, its buying the bloody thing that costs a fortune.
i bought a engine with a gear box and clawed some back selling all the bits that i didnt need
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If I have DSG then can I buy a engine from a manual car and fit it on directly?
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If I have DSG then can I buy a engine from a manual car and fit it on directly?
I suspect you'll want to get the car's ecu as well...
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If looking to go from a AXX or BWA (200bhp) engine to an BHZ or BWJ (S3 and Cupra, can't remember the code for the ED30) preferably you need the ECU an the 200bhp ECU won't support the 3,0Bar MAP sensor and softwarewise you might struggle to get the max from the swap keeping the 200bhp ECU :happy2:
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If looking to go from a AXX or BWA (200bhp) engine to an BHZ or BWJ (S3 and Cupra, can't remember the code for the ED30) preferably you need the ECU an the 200bhp ECU won't support the 3,0Bar MAP sensor and softwarewise you might struggle to get the max from the swap keeping the 200bhp ECU :happy2:
Say I get hold of a s3 engine I need the ecu from the right? And if it's a manual s3 would it go on to my DSG gearbox?
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If looking to go from a AXX or BWA (200bhp) engine to an BHZ or BWJ (S3 and Cupra, can't remember the code for the ED30) preferably you need the ECU an the 200bhp ECU won't support the 3,0Bar MAP sensor and softwarewise you might struggle to get the max from the swap keeping the 200bhp ECU :happy2:
Say I get hold of a s3 engine I need the ecu from the right? And if it's a manual s3 would it go on to my DSG gearbox?
No trouble in swapping the engine block itself. As i'm informed you need an ECU for a similar car. A Seat ECU shouldn't work in a golf, so ideally you need an ECU from a car of same type as your own, but i have not this confirmed. :sad1:
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Any engine from any TFSi will go straight in and work with your current ecu even if the engine is from a DSG. Just use all your old ancillaries and you wont have a problem.
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Any engine from any TFSi will go straight in and work with your current ecu even if the engine is from a DSG. Just use all your old ancillaries and you wont have a problem.
Alright but say I use my original ECU for the s3 engine or a golf r I would have boosting problems wouldn't I? Also an anyone confirm that a s3 ecu will work on a gti mk5?
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Any engine from any TFSi will go straight in and work with your current ecu even if the engine is from a DSG. Just use all your old ancillaries and you wont have a problem.
Alright but say I use my original ECU for the s3 engine or a golf r I would have boosting problems wouldn't I? Also an anyone confirm that a s3 ecu will work on a gti mk5?
No boosting problem, you just can't use the MAP sensor
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Any engine from any TFSi will go straight in and work with your current ecu even if the engine is from a DSG. Just use all your old ancillaries and you wont have a problem.
Alright but say I use my original ECU for the s3 engine or a golf r I would have boosting problems wouldn't I? Also an anyone confirm that a s3 ecu will work on a gti mk5?
No boosting problem, you just can't use the MAP sensor
But I will have a k04 on that with s3 injectors?
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You cant just swap ecu's as the ecu is coded to the dash.
Use your current ecu and get it mapped for the K04 and S3 injectors.
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So using the origanal gti ecu will work fine, its just the map sensor wont work, which means changing it over for your own engine.
Anything else?
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You cant just swap ecu's as the ecu is coded to the dash.
Use your current ecu and get it mapped for the K04 and S3 injectors.
So are you saying change the map sensor to the S3 one with my current ecu or leaving both my ecu and map sensor as is and getting it mapped?
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So using the origanal gti ecu will work fine, its just the map sensor wont work, which means changing it over for your own engine.
Anything else?
Just the map sensor. The S3 map reads differently to the stock one.
You cant just swap ecu's as the ecu is coded to the dash.
Use your current ecu and get it mapped for the K04 and S3 injectors.
So are you saying change the map sensor to the S3 one with my current ecu or leaving both my ecu and map sensor as is and getting it mapped?
Depends on the mapper as the S3 map sensor can be mapped to work with the stock ecu. Easier to just use the stock map sensor and stock ecu.
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Somewhere someone had mentioned about boosting, they couldnt boost above 21psi.
would there be a problem with this or with the correct tuner could this problem be solved?
quote by James on the Topic: Difference of S3, Cupra and golf R engine
you can also keep your ecu. but u limit ur boost, 21psi. (what i run)
if you do change your ecu, change your map sensor also
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21 psi = approx. 1.5 bar is this correct ^^^^
Somewhere someone had mentioned about boosting, they couldnt boost above 21psi.
would there be a problem with this or with the correct tuner could this problem be solved?
quote by James on the Topic: Difference of S3, Cupra and golf R engine
you can also keep your ecu. but u limit ur boost, 21psi. (what i run)
if you do change your ecu, change your map sensor also
What happens when the s3 map sensor is mapped in to the GTI Ecu?
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this thread is a year old... :signLOL:
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Ano... Sammys old thread to... he has gone, but will never be forgotten :signLOL:
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Hi guys looking for help on this matter. My Axx engine has packed it in so tryin to source an Axx engine is hard