MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: MC71 on June 07, 2012, 09:35:27 pm

Title: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: MC71 on June 07, 2012, 09:35:27 pm
Can someone please definitively confirm the part number for the Open Fog Grills?  Went to my local VW main dealer and he has NO IDEA what I'm talking about and will not help without a part number!!   :fighting:

Are these the correct AND complete part numbers for the open fog grills pictured!!
Am after the whole unit which includes the rear parts.

V1K0854661M9B9

V1K0854662F9B9

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2F9b95a18a.jpg&hash=5732bc13696552cff85182189733cc56829afafe)

Thanks peeps  :happy2:

Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2012, 09:37:00 pm
Drop the V from the front and they are valid part numbers.
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: Trowbridge on June 07, 2012, 09:40:09 pm
Forgive the newbie question but whats the purpose of the open grills - better airflow or just for looks?
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: MC71 on June 07, 2012, 09:53:29 pm
Drop the V from the front and they are valid part numbers.

Cheers Sir!!  :happy2:

Forgive the newbie question but whats the purpose of the open grills - better airflow or just for looks?

In my case it's aesthetics!
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: E30Dom on June 07, 2012, 10:14:38 pm
Drop the V from the front and they are valid part numbers.

Cheers Sir!!  :happy2:

Forgive the newbie question but whats the purpose of the open grills - better airflow or just for looks?

In my case it's aesthetics!

Will you let us know what price you get quoted please... Fancy some myself...
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: MC71 on June 07, 2012, 10:32:08 pm
^^^^ Will do.  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: RedRobin on June 07, 2012, 10:38:26 pm

Forgive the newbie question but whats the purpose of the open grills - better airflow or just for looks?


....The story goes that VW originally thought that the DSG box of tricks would need extra cooling but this wasn't found to be the case. So, the open version was dropped from production quite early around 2005. I don't know how true that is, but I think it's feasible.
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: AndyS on June 08, 2012, 08:29:07 am
£27.50 from Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220795903383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: gazon69 on June 08, 2012, 08:35:36 am
Non genuine and the fit is sh*te. Plus there are no rears to them
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: bacillus on June 08, 2012, 08:36:26 am
£27.50 from Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220795903383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649


I don't think those are oem as they lack the back bits of plastics but will fit.
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: AndyS on June 08, 2012, 08:39:17 am
Non genuine and the fit is sh*te. Plus there are no rears to them

I take it you purchased some  :surprised:
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: AndyS on June 08, 2012, 08:40:58 am
£27.50 from Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220795903383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649


I don't think those are oem as they lack the back bits of plastics but will fit.

I have purchased some, so will report back later and post pics
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: RedRobin on June 08, 2012, 08:52:47 am
£27.50 from Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220795903383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649


I don't think those are oem as they lack the back bits of plastics but will fit.


....The plastic back bits are detachable on the OEM version. The driver's side (UK) has a flat back which only serves to mask the unsightly white screenwash tank. The other side's back component has an angled duct and that was the functional part for DSG and hot climate cars.

Unless you duct through to the wheel arches (for extra brakes ventilation) they are more for show than go.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FDRL_Hella_explore.jpg&hash=59b233c1b02cdc22f13c7b9ea3043b5171a60e09)

^ You can see the angled back duct in the OEM version ^

The back plastic components are also clearly seen in MC71's original post.
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: OEM+ DUB on June 08, 2012, 08:54:03 am

Forgive the newbie question but whats the purpose of the open grills - better airflow or just for looks?


....The story goes that VW originally thought that the DSG box of tricks would need extra cooling but this wasn't found to be the case. So, the open version was dropped from production quite early around 2005. I don't know how true that is, but I think it's feasible.

They were deleted from UK spec cars from 2005 model year (first DSG cars into the UK in 2004 had them) as deemed unnecessary for colder climates.  They are designed for 'warm climate' markets to provide additional airflow and cooling to the DSG oil - hence the scoop and duct on the nearside grille and the blanking plate on the offside.

I've just fitted a pair of brand new genuine open fog grilles to my DSG equipped GTI and love the subtle-yet-different OEM look (must add at least 5 bhp! :wink:).  I also stripped off the upper and lower radiator grilles, cleaned them and then treated them to a couple of coats of 303 Aerospace Protectorant following recomendations in the Detailing section.  Highly recommended product! :happy2:  Having a silver car I hadn't realised just how faded the upper honeycomb had become until cleaned and treated...
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: nezquick on June 08, 2012, 09:26:19 am
I got the ones from ebay - perfect fit, top quality and couldn't be happier than I didnt pay some silly price what what is essentially a bit of open mesh on some plastic trim  :stupid:

yeah they didn't come with the duct but it doesn't do anything so why bother with it?
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: RedRobin on June 08, 2012, 09:39:09 am
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The ones which you all really want to avoid are those where ALL the honeycomb has been cut out. They are very flimsy and available, of course, from fleeBay!
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: AndyS on June 08, 2012, 09:40:56 am
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The ones which you all really want to avoid are those where ALL the honeycomb has been cut out. They are very flimsy and available, of course, from fleeBay!

The ones I purchased from Ebay are very good quality  :indifferent:
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: nezquick on June 08, 2012, 09:44:43 am
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The ones which you all really want to avoid are those where ALL the honeycomb has been cut out. They are very flimsy and available, of course, from fleeBay!

The ones I purchased from Ebay are very good quality  :indifferent:

x2  :stupid:

RR i've never seen a set on ebay where all the mesh has been cut out leaving a hole the ones I bought look identical to the ones from VW that they charge twice if not more for

Im quite sure there are a fair few people who have bought them without any problems
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: RedRobin on June 08, 2012, 09:50:27 am
^^^^
Hey guys, I'm only saying that the versions with ALL the honeycomb cut out, not just the rectangular area as OEM, are flimsy and therefore not a good idea to buy. Plus they expose the painted body/crash bar.
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: AndyS on June 08, 2012, 09:52:15 am
Just trying to defend my spend  :jumping:

Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: MC71 on June 08, 2012, 09:55:43 am
£27.50 from Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220795903383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649


^^^^ Have those ones now on my car and are ok (picture below) but want the early MK5 OEM ones (with rear covers/vent) and as it shows my main concern is with all sorts of stuff (mainly rain) flying straight in with the completely open grill. I know water will find its way in anywhere but with the rear cover parts it can be mostly prevented

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2Fwatch018-1.jpg&hash=4b3a0c7d60cb24ebd9724064863411e5ff0893a2)

May well go with the OSIR carbon ones (or eBay carbon cheepies) in the future as this may allow me to cut out a section next to the fogs for DRL's. Not sure if there's enough room to have the fogs and DRL's side by side though, anyway that's for the future.
 :happy2:

Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: RedRobin on June 08, 2012, 10:03:11 am

Just trying to defend my spend  :jumping:


....Are yours the FULLY cutout ones? Like the ones I'm advising against and no pics of them posted here?
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: AndyS on June 08, 2012, 10:05:07 am

Just trying to defend my spend  :jumping:


....Are yours the FULLY cutout ones? Like the ones I'm advising against and no pics of them posted here?

Mine are the same as MC71,s pictures above
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: E30Dom on June 08, 2012, 10:12:45 am
I'm sure someone has sold some ebay ones on here before(2nd hand) and the fitment around th fog light was appaling... Which is why i'd want oem ones...
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: RedRobin on June 08, 2012, 10:18:32 am

May well go with the OSIR carbon ones (or eBay carbon cheepies) in the future as this may allow me to cut out a section next to the fogs for DRL's. Not sure if there's enough room to have the fogs and DRL's side by side though, anyway that's for the future.
 :happy2:


....I don't need much excuse to post a pic of my beloved throbbin red one:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FRED_CarbonDRL.jpg&hash=a778b5c8b4c98064c8767d5f67af96a2b366a102)

There may be some helpful info in my thread here (if you haven't already read it):  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1917.0.html

Also, check out NeilM's build thread - He also has OSIR carbons but has now added round circular vent ducts alongside. The problem would be space behind to mount both OEM fog units and Hella DRL's - You would be very ill-advised to cut into the crashbar.
Title: Re: OEM Open Fogs!!!
Post by: MC71 on June 08, 2012, 11:16:38 am
^^^^ saw the ducting hole next to the fog on his build thread, actually what gave me the idea. No doubt others have thought the same but as you say it's probably not possible without surgery (not happening in my case) to the car. Might just buy a cheap OEM tyre filled in fog grill and have a play around with the Dremel fitting DRL's, see where I get, can't hurt. If it doesn't work it will save me cutting up some expensive Carbon.
 :happy2:

Does look good in Carbon alongside the Redness of your car!!  :notworthy: