MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: sub39h on June 15, 2012, 03:43:46 pm
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hi guys - as you will have noticed i had some wheels up for sale a few weeks ago
agreed a price with someone (not naming names, tho you could probably work it out :rolleye:) who gave me a deposit. he said he'd be on holiday but he'll pick them up when he comes back.
it's been over 3 weeks now, and i've PM'ed him twice but no reply. he has been active on the forum in that time.
selling the wheels again shouldn't be a problem as i had loads of interest in them so should i return the deposit and relist them, or wait a bit longer? i'm not in a massive rush for the cash i just want them out my flat!
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Keep the deposit and move on? :signLOL:
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I dont know who you're talking about, but I wouldn't return the deposit.
The person that gave you the deposit gave it in good faith that you would hold onto the wheels and not sell them while they were away. You should have agreed a timeframe, and seeing as you didn't, you need to give them some time now to close the deal. If they don't close the deal in that time then relist the wheels for sale and keep the deposit for the time wasted and storage of the wheels. :happy2:
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I wouldn't keep the deposit because we hadn't agreed a time frame so I would be cancelling the sale, not him. I'm just wondering if it's out of order for me to do that
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No, not at all.
If I gave somebody a deposit I wouldn't expect to get the deposit back if I never went through with the sale!!!!
Otherwise what do you think the point of a deposit is???? :confused:
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why not send a polite pm stating that who ever has "purchased" the wheels has another week to pay otherwise they forfeit the sale and the deposit.
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He paid the deposit on the 17th May. Thats a full on calendar month. Taking the piss. If they wont respond to you, just put them back up for sale.
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He paid the deposit on the 17th May. Thats a full on calendar month. Taking the piss. If they wont respond to you, just put them back up for sale.
Also says he was active this morning so bit odd he hasn't replied.
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He's clearly wanting them but maybe doesn't have all the money together yet.
I'd be inclined to do him a favour and wait, but then I'm not hard up for money. The last thing I'd do is keep the money and tell him tough tits without discussing it first - give him a week and tell him he'll get his money back minus a small fee for your trouble.
Years ago I was selling a car and someone placed a deposit on it, circumstances changed and he couldn't go through with the deal - so I refunded him and let it go. Years later he interviewed me for a job and instantly remembered me. Treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.
There's some hard faced people on here sometimes, and I mentally note every one of you so as not to deal with you, buying or selling.
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He's clearly wanting them but maybe doesn't have all the money together yet.
I'd be inclined to do him a favour and wait, but then I'm not hard up for money. The last thing I'd do is keep the money and tell him tough tits without discussing it first - give him a week and tell him he'll get his money back minus a small fee for your trouble.
Years ago I was selling a car and someone placed a deposit on it, circumstances changed and he couldn't go through with the deal - so I refunded him and let it go. Years later he interviewed me for a job and instantly remembered me. Treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.
There's some hard faced people on here sometimes, and I mentally note every one of you so as not to deal with you, buying or selling.
Thats fair enough in most circumstances Mike. But common courtesy (which costs nothing) is at least to reply, state you can no longer afford them, or even ask for them to be held onto for just a wee bit longer and apologise.
To not reply to multiple PMs over the course of 1 month is just plain ignorant. And im surprised the OP waited this long before shouting about it on the forum.
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Name and shame.....or retain the deposit. No person would expect a seller to retain goods for a month. Failure to pay in a month would indicate that they either don't want them or cannot afford them. Have you asked those specific questions of them ?
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He's clearly wanting them but maybe doesn't have all the money together yet.
I'd be inclined to do him a favour and wait, but then I'm not hard up for money. The last thing I'd do is keep the money and tell him tough tits without discussing it first - give him a week and tell him he'll get his money back minus a small fee for your trouble.
Years ago I was selling a car and someone placed a deposit on it, circumstances changed and he couldn't go through with the deal - so I refunded him and let it go. Years later he interviewed me for a job and instantly remembered me. Treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.
There's some hard faced people on here sometimes, and I mentally note every one of you so as not to deal with you, buying or selling.
.... :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: Absolutely spot on!
A deposit isn't automatically non-returnable so you shouldn't assume so. These matters need clarifying and spelling out at the time.
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thanks for the suggestions people
the idea of keeping the deposit doesn't sit right with me - we didn't agree a time frame, so it'd be me pulling out of the sale and hence i have no reason to keep his deposit.
i'll PM him again, if i don't get any reply i'll put them back up for sale
i'm not gonna name and shame because he's not a scammer/threat to other forum members. also if you're that interested a bit of detective work would reveal who it is :happy2:
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thanks for the suggestions people
the idea of keeping the deposit doesn't sit right with me - we didn't agree a time frame, so it'd be me pulling out of the sale and hence i have no reason to keep his deposit.
i'll PM him again, if i don't get any reply i'll put them back up for sale
i'm not gonna name and shame because he's not a scammer/threat to other forum members. also if you're that interested a bit of detective work would reveal who it is :happy2:
....I think you should be applauded for doing the honourable thing :drinking: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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thanks for the suggestions people
the idea of keeping the deposit doesn't sit right with me - we didn't agree a time frame, so it'd be me pulling out of the sale and hence i have no reason to keep his deposit.
i'll PM him again, if i don't get any reply i'll put them back up for sale
i'm not gonna name and shame because he's not a scammer/threat to other forum members. also if you're that interested a bit of detective work would reveal who it is :happy2:
....I think you should be applauded for doing the honourable thing :drinking: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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:congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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I don't understand people that appear active and don't respond to PM's... Doesn't take a minute to do and non of this would frustrate.
Give him to the agreed deadline and , if you have a purchaser lined up them it's tough in my book.
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Thanks RR - not returning the deposit wasn't the point in this thread anyway as I was always gonna return it, i was just wondering if it was unfair to put them back up for sale if I've not heard from him.
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My policy is if somebody cancels then the item goes back for sale and when it sells the deposit goes back to the original purchaser, less any loss.
Simply not communicating though is very crap and shows a lack of commitment to the deal and a personal insult to the seller. If you've sent a couple of PMs and no response I'd send a final pm cancelling and keeping the deposit just to get his attention
Alternatively just don't take them off sale until the full moneys received.
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Yes, as Dave suggests, I would put it in writing (by sending either a PM or email) that he has unfortunately given you no alternative by his lack of response other than to cancel the sale to him. You have then served him notice and it will greatly reduce the risk of any bad feelings due to a misunderstanding.
He will (or should!) also respect you for this. :happy2:
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He's clearly wanting them but maybe doesn't have all the money together yet.
I'd be inclined to do him a favour and wait, but then I'm not hard up for money. The last thing I'd do is keep the money and tell him tough tits without discussing it first - give him a week and tell him he'll get his money back minus a small fee for your trouble.
Years ago I was selling a car and someone placed a deposit on it, circumstances changed and he couldn't go through with the deal - so I refunded him and let it go. Years later he interviewed me for a job and instantly remembered me. Treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.
There's some hard faced people on here sometimes, and I mentally note every one of you so as not to deal with you, buying or selling.
Thats fair enough in most circumstances Mike. But common courtesy (which costs nothing) is at least to reply, state you can no longer afford them, or even ask for them to be held onto for just a wee bit longer and apologise.
To not reply to multiple PMs over the course of 1 month is just plain ignorant. And im surprised the OP waited this long before shouting about it on the forum.
I do agree with what you say, he's either embarrassed or stupid - but two wrongs don't make a right. :happy2:
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He's clearly wanting them but maybe doesn't have all the money together yet.
I'd be inclined to do him a favour and wait, but then I'm not hard up for money. The last thing I'd do is keep the money and tell him tough tits without discussing it first - give him a week and tell him he'll get his money back minus a small fee for your trouble.
Years ago I was selling a car and someone placed a deposit on it, circumstances changed and he couldn't go through with the deal - so I refunded him and let it go. Years later he interviewed me for a job and instantly remembered me. Treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.
There's some hard faced people on here sometimes, and I mentally note every one of you so as not to deal with you, buying or selling.
Thats fair enough in most circumstances Mike. But common courtesy (which costs nothing) is at least to reply, state you can no longer afford them, or even ask for them to be held onto for just a wee bit longer and apologise.
To not reply to multiple PMs over the course of 1 month is just plain ignorant. And im surprised the OP waited this long before shouting about it on the forum.
I do agree with what you say, he's either embarrassed or stupid - but two wrongs don't make a right. :happy2:
Too right. And I'd not encourage being so mean as to keep the deposit unless it was agreed it was non refundable.
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I think under the circumstance if I read this Right ,he left a deposit as he was going on Holiday he has now returned he has been on here but hasn't arranged to collect them or had the time to speak with you.
I don't think that is good enough if you have mailed him twice, I really don't think he could have any complaints if you just return the deposit stating the reason for the sale is you wanted them out your house and two the money would be handy ,
Waiting a month for a reply isn't fair on you, return the Money with a little note saying unfortunately for what ever reason you haven't been in touch hope you are ok et ,but for the reasons above you do need the room and feel it time to try again and realist them .
Don't be hard on your self this guy isn't being fair ignoring your mail and moving around on here posting or what ever he can obviously contact you but has choosen not to , return the cash and move on
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Sorted now. They're back up for sale!