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Title: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: nezquick on June 30, 2012, 10:57:49 am
Just testing the water before I ask le admins but who would be interested in a forge catch can group buy? if i can get numbers then ill let james from tc garagw know and he can put more information about pruce etc

I believe its the complete setup!
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: RedRobin on June 30, 2012, 12:19:54 pm
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This review and discussion thread might interest those folks thinking about it:  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16343.0.html

Not a cheap product but I think it's the best quality catch can system available and particularly beneficial for a car you plan to keep.
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: nezquick on June 30, 2012, 12:24:34 pm
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This review and discussion thread might interest those folks thinking about it:  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16343.0.html

Not a cheap product but I think it's the best quality catch can system available and particularly beneficial for a car you plan to keep.

cheers for that should of posted something up about a review etc, no but hopefully numbers will help wager a decent deal. by far one of the best catch cans
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: maxload on June 30, 2012, 12:26:48 pm
I'd be interested to see what sort of price you can come up with  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: valle on June 30, 2012, 01:40:30 pm
i am interested, but would like to hear the price...
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 30, 2012, 01:51:57 pm
May be worth noting that vRSAlex removed his inlet after running with a catch can (valves were cleaned prior to fitting can) and the valves still had a considerable built up of carbon anyway??

See here: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19941.msg549728.html#msg549728

Also, as turbo cars get a lot of oil through the inlet pipes anyway through the turbo (people often see it when removing the intercooler) then you will always get some oil getting in the intake manifold and onto the valves so IMHO I don't know if these are worthwhile  :scared:

Also James had some problems with his car chucking out White smoke. R-tech diagnosed it as being the catch can not being able to handle the extra boost pressure, car was fine once OEM PCV was re-installed

Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: RedRobin on June 30, 2012, 01:59:11 pm

May be worth noting that vRSAlex removed his inlet after running with a catch can (valves were cleaned prior to fitting can) and the valves still had a considerable built up of carbon anyway??

See here: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19941.msg549728.html#msg549728

Also, as turbo cars get a lot of oil through the inlet pipes anyway through the turbo (people often see it when removing the intercooler) then you will always get some oil getting in the intake manifold and onto the valves so IMHO I don't know if these are worthwhile  :scared:

Also James had some problems with his car chucking out White smoke. R-tech diagnosed it as being the catch can not being able to handle the extra boost pressure, car was fine once OEM PCV was re-installed


....Which catch can systems were involved in Alex's and James's cases?
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: GarethB on June 30, 2012, 02:05:31 pm
I thought that James was running a Forge.

However, it is probably worth pointing out that both James' car would certainly seen to be at the 'upper' end of 2.0TFSI tuning, and that his map is pretty unique given the high boost / WMI combo.

I'm sure that the Forge will be more than sufficient for those of us that would be happy to stick to the usual 'staged' tuning routes  :happy2:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 30, 2012, 02:07:07 pm
Alex's is a forge also: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19941.msg322847.html#msg322847

Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 30, 2012, 02:08:52 pm
I thought that James was running a Forge.

However, it is probably worth pointing out that both James' car would certainly seen to be at the 'upper' end of 2.0TFSI tuning, and that his map is pretty unique given the high boost / WMI combo.

I'm sure that the Forge will be more than sufficient for those of us that would be happy to stick to the usual 'staged' tuning routes  :happy2:

Good point there Gareth, most people won't be heading up to 350+ bhp so shouldn't have the White smoke issue  :happy2:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: RedRobin on June 30, 2012, 02:14:08 pm

Alex's is a forge also: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19941.msg322847.html#msg322847


....Is Alex's Skoda also highly tuned? - Sorry but I'm not about to read 24 pages of his build thread.

High boost plus WMI is certainly pushing the envelope.

No problems from my Forge when engine inspected recently by JKM.
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 30, 2012, 02:18:16 pm

Alex is stage 2+ with hybrid ko4 and all the bolt ons you'd expect, Robin  :happy2:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: GarethB on June 30, 2012, 02:20:02 pm

....Is Alex's Skoda also highly tuned? - Sorry but I'm not about to read 24 pages of his build thread.


Just a tad Robin  :wink:

As I said above, I reckon that the Forge is fine for 'normal' peeps going with the tried and tested routes. But everything has a limit, so when bigger turbos, WMI, custom maps, etc are involved, it may just be too much....

Slightly off topic, but i'm liking the blue stickers on your car. I've got black ones, but after seeing yours, I'm thinking that I should have opted for the blue  :sad1:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: RedRobin on June 30, 2012, 02:23:34 pm

Alex is stage 2+ with hybrid ko4 and all the bolt ons you'd expect, Robin  :happy2:


....Cheers  :drinking:

So we might deduce that a catch can system might be pointless on cars tuned/modded at the higher extremes. [just seen your post Gareth]

I've emptied enough gunk out of my Forge to think it's good news for my K03 Revo Stage 2 car.
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 30, 2012, 02:28:31 pm

Alex is stage 2+ with hybrid ko4 and all the bolt ons you'd expect, Robin  :happy2:


....Cheers  :drinking:

So we might deduce that a catch can system might be pointless on cars tuned/modded at the higher extremes. [just seen your post Gareth]

I've emptied enough gunk out of my Forge to think it's good news for my K03 Revo Stage 2 car.

I don't think Alex actually had any problems with his catch can (unlike James with White smoke), he just didn't find it effective. Could have been down to his hybrid turbo allowing a little oil into the intake system (only a guess though).

All worthwhile points to note for people to make an informed decision on whether this is a worthwhile puchase for them  :happy2:

Gray
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: RedRobin on June 30, 2012, 02:35:06 pm

I don't think Alex actually had any problems with his catch can (unlike James with White smoke), he just didn't find it effective. Could have been down to his hybrid turbo allowing a little oil into the intake system (only a guess though).

All worthwhile points to note for people to make an informed decision on whether this is a worthwhile puchase for them  :happy2:

Gray

....Absolutely agreed  :drinking:

I should add something to my Forge Catch Can review to that effect.
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: ED30_jase on June 30, 2012, 02:43:20 pm
I would be interested depending on price, as in if the saving is worth bumping it up the list lol
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: MC71 on June 30, 2012, 03:00:15 pm
Looked into the Forge Catch Can System after getting my car but price seemed high for what it is (although not for what it does) so went no further with it, then sidetracked by shiney bits, go faster bits and handling bits.  :ashamed:

 Interested, but as everyone says...... depends on price! As someone who barely knows where the engine is, is this a relatively easy item to install? 

:happy2:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: bacillus on June 30, 2012, 03:09:30 pm
Interested, but as everyone says...... depends on price! As someone who barely knows where the engine is, is this a relatively easy item to install? 

Yup, not difficult to install for the average DIYer.
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: nezquick on June 30, 2012, 03:48:11 pm
I think as mentioned they were designed on the standard remap and supporting mod route the "99%" choose, running hybrids amd excess of 300-350 bhp wasnt probably on the design format although should probably of been. from wgat iv read theres a lot of happy people runnung these things and shocked at how much crap they prevent from goinf into the engine

im waiting for james to inform mw when theyre in stock and more on pricing so will keep this updated and hopefully point towards the official thread for moree  info etc :happy2:
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: RedRobin on June 30, 2012, 03:58:31 pm
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I think that if the Forge Catch Can system isn't worthwhile on a very very highly tuned/modded 2.0T FSI, then none of the other catch can systems will perform any better either. If you read my review you'll see that the Forge system components are very highly spec'd indeed.

I should add that having a catch can means that you will have to regularly check its contents level (easy via the Forge window) and empty it accordingly (also very easy). So if you can't be arsed to do that, it's not for you.
Title: Re: forge catch can group buy interest?
Post by: nezquick on June 30, 2012, 04:13:30 pm
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I think that if the Forge Catch Can system isn't worthwhile on a very very highly tuned/modded 2.0T FSI, then none of the other catch can systems will perform any better either. If you read my review you'll see that the Forge system components are very highly spec'd indeed.

I should add that having a catch can means that you will have to regularly check its contents level (easy via the Forge window) and empty it accordingly (also very easy). So if you can't be arsed to do that, it's not for you.

To be fair its what id expect from forge - quality parts