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Title: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Xizor on July 21, 2012, 11:43:30 am
Hi, I'm new here and looking for a nice used GTI.

My diesel Audi estate is starting to get boring. Good car and very useful, but so boring to drive... zzzzzzzzzz

Anyway, I was advised to take a look at the cars for sale here.

I'm not so sure though, surely they are all going to thrashed, especially the ones with a re-map?

I think I'd rather have one previously owned by some old granny and mod it myself.

What do you think?

Cheers  :confused:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: fab5freddy on July 21, 2012, 11:48:43 am
I think your wrong.

I'd say 95% of the cars on here are better cared for then there wife's/ husbands  :signLOL:

Just because a cars had a remap doesn't mean it's being thrashed.

Remap= more torque. More torque = less you have to rev engine between gear changes

All just my opinion  :smiley:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: rich83 on July 21, 2012, 11:50:38 am
Most cars for sale on here are :-

Cherished
Well maintained
Usually of High Spec
Sometimes have little extras.

I would have no problem recommending someone who was after a GTI to look on here first.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: R444WRR on July 21, 2012, 11:51:45 am
I bought mine from this forum - bet thing I've even done. And as freddy says, most of these cars aren't just cars
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: sub39h on July 21, 2012, 11:52:50 am
enthusiasts are more likely to be able to diagnose problems with their car early and get them sorted before they cause any serious damage

a lot of members on here also service their car more often than recommended, with the correct oil/filters etc. and by people who know what they're doing. the cars are generally better cared for

the paint is also likely to be in better condition because enthusiasts either clean their car with better equipment or have them detailed regularly

you'll also save money buying a car that's already modified over one that needs work

just my 2p.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: ashley on July 21, 2012, 11:53:49 am
You have to judge each car on its merits.

A modified car may be well cared for and its normally cheaper to buy a car fitted with the bits you want.

Single elderly owner can either be a real gem or dogs. Things like seized air con from lack of use and horrible paint from car washes by stevie wonder.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: stealthwolf on July 21, 2012, 12:01:39 pm
Put it this way, there are several female car owners I know. None of them have any interedt in cars. None of them have ever looked under the bonnet. None of them know how to check tyre pressures. They ignore warning lights for weeks on end.

I'd want to buy a car that I'd known to be meticulously looked after. If that means people on here look after their cars better, I'd have no qualms in buying from them.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Xizor on July 21, 2012, 12:08:58 pm
Oops, sorry!

Think I just opened a can of worms!

However I'm still a bit cautious about a re-map. Why have one if you weren't satisfied with the stock performance?  :confused: 
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: sub39h on July 21, 2012, 12:11:13 pm
Oops, sorry!

Think I just opened a can of worms!

However I'm still a bit cautious about a re-map. Why have one if you weren't satisfied with the stock performance?  :confused: 

the car was designed to run in a variety of markets, hot/cold/wet/icy plus satisfy the emissions laws of different countries. you remap it because you want to gain the maximum performance that your car can, which VW couldn't provide

you modify your car for the same reason. VW built the car to appeal to a variety of people so it would sell. you modify it to make it more of what you want for yourself/your driving style/your needs
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Real Thing on July 21, 2012, 12:26:54 pm
I purchased a well moded Car from a forum member had no problems (so far) most of the members will have a detailed history and you can even look at some of the threads to give you an idea to how well there looked after them also you save on the cost of modes plus I would much prefer to have a remapped Car that has been driven hard but well looked after from early on than mapping a 4 or 5 year old Car that has been driven by Miss Daisy then all of a sudden gets a remap and driven hard (much more likely to have problems imo)
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Xizor on July 21, 2012, 12:28:50 pm
Yes, but I've read that the clutch can suffer with a re-map.

That sounds like you are pushing it beyond it's designed output to me.  :wink:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 21, 2012, 12:38:49 pm
Yes, but I've read that the clutch can suffer with a re-map.

That sounds like you are pushing it beyond it's designed output to me.  :wink:

Perhaps pushing the clutch to it's limits on a manual car  (can be upgraded), a DSG clutch will take a whole lot more than I remap will throw at it.

The engines in these are easily capable of handling 100+ horsepower more than they produce from the factory and very many on here are on 100+ thousand miles with remaps (and even turbo upgrades). Tuners wouldn't be very popular if cars couldn't handle their products.

My car has been remapped (+ a few other small mods) and has just shy of 250bhp which the engine and chassis handle beautifully. I'm happy in the knowledge that providing I service it properly and don't thrash it from cold it will go on to see many many thousands of miles yet.

Think you ought to research remaps a little harder. . . .
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Apollo on July 21, 2012, 12:49:40 pm
Stock = Manufacturers playing safe for the mass market.

Remap = True proven potential of the vehicle.

Your hardly likely to pay out for an expensive remap ad then thrash your beloved bby to within an inch of its life.

Buy from an experienced forum member anyday!!
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: RedRobin on July 21, 2012, 01:21:50 pm

You have to judge each car on its merits.

Single elderly owner can either be a real gem or dogs.


....*cough* Single elderly (65yo OAP) owner - That's me but my beloved 102k-miler ain't for sale!

It is as you say, you have to judge each car on its merits but you have to do that wherever you buy.

Don't touch a car that a guy called Sammy (now banned/left) has though!
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: h4rdy on July 21, 2012, 01:25:07 pm
Be as careful as you would any other car buying facility.

And if you go back two weeks later to collect, go over it again as you would have done the first time.

Ill never make that mistake again believe me!

J
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: TANNER on July 21, 2012, 03:39:20 pm
Agree with the above replies, there are some seriously loved cars on here, I wish I would have held out for one on the forum than buying mine to be honest due to a few small niggles like paint condition etc.

A forum user is most likely to have all receipts from services and replacement parts that gives you a life story of the car.
I bought my lupo Gti from a guy on club lupo a few years back and it was immaculate. The guy even had excel sheets that he updated with his weekly fuel consumption!! :grin:

Use your head and don't rush into anything and you will find the right motor.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: ashley on July 21, 2012, 03:47:09 pm

You have to judge each car on its merits.

Single elderly owner can either be a real gem or dogs.


....*cough* Single elderly (65yo OAP) owner - That's me but my beloved 102k-miler ain't for sale!

It is as you say, you have to judge each car on its merits but you have to do that wherever you buy.

Don't touch a car that a guy called Sammy (now banned/left) has though!

There is always an exception to the rule lol. That wasnt meant for you RR. Your not exactly the traditional 65yo owner
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: MC71 on July 21, 2012, 03:49:10 pm
Oops, sorry!

Think I just opened a can of worms!

However I'm still a bit cautious about a re-map. Why have one if you weren't satisfied with the stock performance?  :confused: 

the car was designed to run in a variety of markets, hot/cold/wet/icy plus satisfy the emissions laws of different countries. you remap it because you want to gain the maximum performance that your car can, which VW couldn't provide
you modify your car for the same reason. VW built the car to appeal to a variety of people so it would sell. you modify it to make it more of what you want for yourself/your driving style/your needs


^^^^ this! Could not agree more.  :happy2:

Would have no problem buying from this forum, after a while you will get to know the peeps and their cars and if you see a car for sale by a forum member, have a good look through all their prevoius posts and you will probably see all that they have done to their cars and when. Peeps will pretty much post everything they do to and with their cars.

  :drinking:

Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: david25 on July 22, 2012, 07:39:49 pm
Always get a HPI check!
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: h4rdy on July 22, 2012, 09:40:42 pm
And make sure you pay the £25+ for the full dogs danglies one not a cheap £2.99.

On a £10k plus car its a small price to pay.

And get someone with VCDS to scan it if you can.

If they don't let you walk away there is thousands more, unless its a Pirelli!
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: RobH on July 22, 2012, 09:44:58 pm
Aslong as its not sammy's car you should be fine :signLOL:

That car will be on its 3rd engine by now and probably 3 wheel drive after sammy attemps a haldex conversion.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: sub39h on July 22, 2012, 09:53:07 pm
Aslong as its not sammy's car you should be fine :signLOL:

That car will be on its 3rd engine by now and probably 3 wheel drive after sammy attemps a haldex conversion.

 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Mk5 GTian on July 22, 2012, 11:29:34 pm
enthusiasts are more likely to be able to diagnose problems with their car early and get them sorted before they cause any serious damage

a lot of members on here also service their car more often than recommended, with the correct oil/filters etc. and by people who know what they're doing. the cars are generally better cared for

the paint is also likely to be in better condition because enthusiasts either clean their car with better equipment or have them detailed regularly

you'll also save money buying a car that's already modified over one that needs work

just my 2p.

 :congrats: Could not put it better myself. If there had been a laser blue with sunroof , modded, on here from a member, I'd have bitten their arm off.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: stu_no_1 on July 23, 2012, 07:59:35 pm
The only thing that stops me buying from a forum member is finance so i had to go to a dealer but im paying the price for that my car is in for a full respray fixing all the little stonechips and bits of laquer peel on the quarter panel but you never know my car might be up for sale on this forum and i cant see the work im putting in getting ignored because of a remap or any mods. There is nothing wrong with a remap as long as it is a reputable tuner who has mapped the car and the car is serviced when it should be
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: damoegan on July 23, 2012, 08:56:43 pm
And make sure you pay the £25+ for the full dogs danglies one not a cheap £2.99.

On a £10k plus car its a small price to pay.

And get someone with VCDS to scan it if you can.

If they don't let you walk away there is thousands more, unless its a Pirelli!

This ^^^

I did the same thing when I got my ED30 and one of the cars I was looking at turned out to be a CAT D...

Ended up getting mine from a member on here  :happy2:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Llew on July 26, 2012, 07:54:07 pm
I wish I had known about this forum b4 I bought my car from a dealer The cars on here seem well looked after and much cheaper than elsewhere even with all the mods so looking at the prices on here I think probably paid 25% more than I need to and I still have to put in the mods after that so IMO here is a great place to buy cars and parts and accessories not to mention all the helpful advice on here which has saved me tons of money and cut out. Costly mistakes
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Moz on July 26, 2012, 09:19:23 pm
I can do a full free HPI check for you. If you're a regular resident of MK5GTI....
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Gene Hunt on July 27, 2012, 07:28:16 am
Aslong as its not sammy's car you should be fine :signLOL:

That car will be on its 3rd engine by now and probably 3 wheel drive after sammy attemps a haldex conversion.
...........what ever happened to him? :grin:  :stupid:.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: zabba on July 27, 2012, 08:52:14 am
Buying a used car is always a bit of a lottery, there are good and bad cars out there, both on forums and other sellers.

Just make sure you do normal checks, go through service history with a fine tooth comb, get an hpi check, get a AA/RAC inspection for piece of mind.  Also check bodywork thoroughly as hpi only shows accidents that causeda  write off.  Don't take anyones word, get it checked if unsure about something.

There are plenty of enthusiasts on forums who look after their cars, but then I have also seen some pretty dodgy examples on forums.

I bought a car off a forum member and so far so good  :happy2:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: patrickcullen87 on July 27, 2012, 12:27:20 pm
personally i would rather buy a car from a forum member than off a dealer....when you buy off a forum member you know you are getting a well looked after car, most cases you can view the members posts to see the history off the car and how well it it looked after.

buy from a dealer and the history of the car is a grey area, you get a salesman who probably knows very little about the car telling you its very well looked after even though he most likely has no idea of the history, they will tell you anything to get the car sold.

its your choice at the end of the day but i know what i would prefer

as for the remap..just because it has been remapped doesnt mean the car has been thrashed. i got mines mapped purely because the car performs miles better, easier to overtake, more responsive and you dont need to rev the tits of the engine build up speed  :happy2:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: gulfstream11 on July 27, 2012, 12:47:53 pm
I bought my Edition 30 from a forum member.. Revo Stg 2 DSG map.He had on all the trimmings,S3 int/downpipe/milltec etc etc... The benefits to me were knowing the guy on the forum.. Reading previous posts on modification progress.. Posts on having work done to the car and costs.I knew more about this car than probably he did.. lol..Compare that to going to a dealer/garage.. "Lovely car this sir,2 nuns as previous owners"...
I had no bother in flying over to N.I with the cash,car unseen.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: pitsirikas on July 27, 2012, 12:50:14 pm

I think I'd rather have one previously owned by some old granny and mod it myself.



 :grin:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: RedRobin on July 27, 2012, 01:42:51 pm

I think I'd rather have one previously owned by some old granny and mod it myself.



 :grin:

^^^^  :signLOL: - Brilliant advert!

Wiil this be what I'm like when it's time for me to retire from driving? It's even a red one! (I enjoy iy but don't thrash it).

Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: jimble on July 27, 2012, 02:18:48 pm
I'd have no problem buying from a member and it seems your only worried about the car being re mapped? Not all cars sold on forums have been mapped, just buy one of those! :happy2:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: E30Dom on July 27, 2012, 02:37:23 pm
The people I work with say that they'd never sell me a car, but certainly would buy one from me... I don't know many people accept enthusiasts that clean/dry door shuts, wash every weekend (2BM of course), service more regularly than require, and if they are not happy with the slightest noise/thing, get it checked out asap and booked in to get sorted... I always go above and beyond with my cars, always have and always will... and that goes to the mods I carry out... always do my research and find the best bits I can.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: Horatio on July 27, 2012, 03:09:43 pm
just sold my edition30 to another forum member. Wished i had bought it from an enthusiast to begin with. Spent a fortune getting it right  . Good luck on  your search.
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: E30Dom on July 27, 2012, 03:51:16 pm
just sold my edition30 to another forum member. Wished i had bought it from an enthusiast to begin with. Spent a fortune getting it right  . Good luck on  your search.

Having a similar itch to you at the moment... fancy another .:R32...
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: R32UK on July 27, 2012, 04:01:09 pm
just sold my edition30 to another forum member. Wished i had bought it from an enthusiast to begin with. Spent a fortune getting it right  . Good luck on  your search.

Having a similar itch to you at the moment... fancy another .:R32...

I have the same itch also at the moment... must be something in the air  :sad1:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: patrickcullen87 on July 27, 2012, 04:10:52 pm
just sold my edition30 to another forum member. Wished i had bought it from an enthusiast to begin with. Spent a fortune getting it right  . Good luck on  your search.

Having a similar itch to you at the moment... fancy another .:R32...

I have the same itch also at the moment... must be something in the air  :sad1:
Feels soooo good scratching that itch  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Buying car from forum ... good idea?
Post by: E30Dom on July 27, 2012, 05:03:54 pm
Problem is I'd never sell a stage 2 car easily, and don't have the heart to take back to standard...