MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: jedi-knight83 on July 23, 2012, 09:19:31 pm

Title: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 23, 2012, 09:19:31 pm
R-Tech have offered to do a linear throttle map on my car tomorrow.

however i quite like lightly touching the throttle and having it pull on the motorway.

I presume with a linear throttle map you have to push the throttle more so it will give the impression the car has less power?

opinions?
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: heavyd on July 23, 2012, 09:48:44 pm

I presume with a linear throttle map you have to push the throttle more so it will give the impression the car has less power?

opinions?

Thats what I found, hated it :sick:
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: keano on July 23, 2012, 09:49:29 pm
Love your sig Dom  :grin:
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: Dan.b on July 23, 2012, 09:51:34 pm
Also interested in reading people's opinions as I'm looking at the R tech map.

Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: heavyd on July 23, 2012, 10:02:22 pm
Love your sig Dom  :grin:

Im the only person on here that can state that as a fact :sad1:
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: rich83 on July 23, 2012, 10:47:33 pm
I personally liked the linear throttle map. But since having the revo update i have lost it because the have not made a stage 1 linear yet.

Both have there ups and downs...  :happy2:

NON linear makes the car 'feel' quicker

Linear you have to work the throttle more.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: PDT on July 23, 2012, 11:41:54 pm
I can only comment on our own linear throttle map and the Revo variant. I dislike it them.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: rich83 on July 23, 2012, 11:42:50 pm
I can only comment on our own linear throttle map and the Revo variant. I dislike it them.

 :signLOL:

I get the feeling you dont like linear throttle dave?  :P

I must admit that the non linear revo map does make it feel a bit beefier.  :driver:
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 23, 2012, 11:59:42 pm
I can only comment on our own linear throttle map and the Revo variant. I dislike it them.

 :signLOL:

I get the feeling you dont like linear throttle dave?  :P

I must admit that the non linear revo map does make it feel a bit beefier.  :driver:

cool. thats all i needed to hear really. I'll avoid that and stick with the current set up I think.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: vRSAlex on July 24, 2012, 07:21:37 am
On stage 1 its not really needed, but when you go stage 2+ or higher its worth it.  It allows more control of the power through corners and in the wet.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 24, 2012, 11:04:18 am
I'm gonna give it a try now and see how it feels.
I'm not convinced I'll like it but will report back.


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Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: 56OctyVRS on July 24, 2012, 12:13:49 pm
A linear throttle map is just like driving an old throttle cabled car. My FRS had a cable to the throttle body ( as do older cars) and that does not dull the driving experience. I would love a linear throttle map (next trip top Shark) as it means the input is more precise. In the wet I just spin the wheels when applying the power, as it either puts too much power down or not enough.  Shark keep their throttle map very similar to the OE one and I think the OE throttle map should be on a 1:1 ratio. Its just that most drivers are lazy and dont want to move their foot more than a few cm's to drive, thats why VW dont have a 1:1 ratio.  You can still get the initial surge of power with a linear map but you have to move your foot a few more cm's and its just the same.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 24, 2012, 12:43:02 pm
On older cars you used to be able to get things called Sprint boosters which essentially changed the throttle map so that small throttle inputs from thed driver equated to larger throttle output.  It didnt make it faster, just made it feel faster!!

The stock throttle map on my car is terrible for this.  Around Mallory at 3/4 throttle on Gerrards corner(in the wet) the slightest movement was bringing on full throttle.  Really off putting and makes it difficult to modulate the throttle.

The linear throttle map means it is so much easier to modulate and control the throttle, especially in the wet, when cornering hard.  I have much less wheels spin as a result.

Plus it doesnt make it slower, you just have to use more of the peddle.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: R-tech-Nick on July 24, 2012, 06:28:07 pm
MPG gains from linear 1:1 throttle maps??  The 1.8T boys are seeing 34-38mpg from linear maps, and the 2.5T ST owners are reporting 50-55mile better per tank.

For control the linear map wins hands down, but the Placebo effect stock pedal map makes people smile...... and under steer,
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 24, 2012, 06:31:02 pm
I'm gonna give it a try now and see how it feels.
I'm not convinced I'll like it but will report back.


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Unfortunately we didnt get time for this in the end so can't really comment now... perhaps next time :)

MASSIVE thanks and respect again though to Nick for his time and skill.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 24, 2012, 06:38:49 pm
For control the linear map wins hands down, but the Placebo effect stock pedal map makes people smile...... and under steer,


That for me sums it up better than any other reply ive seen
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: Dan648v on July 24, 2012, 07:02:23 pm

So linear map is more a drivers map  :smiley:

might get one, my edition 30 is my first fly by wire throttle and it's abit foreign to me still the way it reacts to your foot
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: rich83 on July 24, 2012, 07:05:09 pm

So linear map is more a drivers map  :smiley:

might get one, my edition 30 is my first fly by wire throttle and it's abit foreign to me still the way it reacts to your foot

It more intuitive.... if you want half throttle, press the pedal down half way.  :happy2:
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: Dan648v on July 24, 2012, 07:11:16 pm
Sounds better to me rich! Better than tickling the throttle coming out of a corner and getting  :driver:
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: rich83 on July 24, 2012, 07:12:48 pm
Yup
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: RedED30 on August 02, 2012, 04:44:22 pm
I like the linear throttle i have just had and think (please note) think that it gives me more control on the car, you can actually balance the pick up on the throttle really well.
Title: Re: opinions on linear throttle map?
Post by: Tamiyoman on August 03, 2012, 08:57:28 am

So linear map is more a drivers map  :smiley:

might get one, my edition 30 is my first fly by wire throttle and it's abit foreign to me still the way it reacts to your foot

It more intuitive.... if you want half throttle, press the pedal down half way.  :happy2:

Exactly why I like the Linear map on my Stage 2 Ed30, you can come out of corners progressively (half throttle) and when traction allows floor it, its not "All or nothing".