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Title: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on July 30, 2012, 08:29:22 pm
Well I noticed a few days ago that the A/C wasn't as icy cold as normal. Went out yesterday and noticed a real change.
It was blowing cool air but definitely no A/C.  :sad1:

Checked the valves under the bonnet to see if there was any signs of gas...but nothing.


Just wondered if this was a common problem on the mk5 Gti?

Does anyone know any possible causes of the leak? Other than the obvious, stone through the condenser?

I guess I'm just hoping for a quick fix really.  :ashamed:

Got it booked in for a pressure test on Saturday morning.
Hopefully pump hasn't gone   :scared:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: percy on July 30, 2012, 08:35:22 pm
Do a search on here maye as its quite common, anything from the compressor to the fans. Mine doesnt work either.
Title: Re: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Bignod00 on July 30, 2012, 08:40:49 pm
Subscribed! Fingers crossed for you dude, will be interested to hear what it is, as you know mine is dead too so will be watching with interest!
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: holland15h on July 30, 2012, 09:03:20 pm
mine went last week, vw looked at mine today = new compressor
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on July 30, 2012, 09:56:22 pm
Thanks for the replies so far  :happy2:

So am I right in thinking that from the lack of gas something expensive must have gone, like compressor or condenser???


Is it not possible that it's just run out of gas???
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: bacillus on July 30, 2012, 09:59:29 pm
IMO first get it regassed and let them put some dye into the system at the same time. If it's a simple leak the leakage of dye should pin point the leak
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on July 30, 2012, 10:15:57 pm
IMO first get it regassed and let them put some dye into the system at the same time. If it's a simple leak the leakage of dye should pin point the leak

Thanks Doc  :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: vRS Carl on July 30, 2012, 10:42:01 pm
Aircon should be re-gassed (or at least tested) every 2 years.

Might be worth going to Halfrauds and getting them to check it as its all done by machine these days so they can't f*ck it up. They normally give a guarantee were if there is no change in the temp it produces then you don't pay. But check with them first.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Wilko on July 30, 2012, 10:48:15 pm
I got and AC Indy out to mine mate.  He repressurised the system with inert nitrogen gas to see if there was a leak.  

I do have one that's seemingly coming from the pressure sensor.  I got a new sensor but it's an arse to fit and I can't get the electrical clip off never mind having the right spanners.

It's off into a local Indy ASAP for it changing I'll let you know how it goes but it's certainly worth a pressure test before doing anything else IMO.  The sensors and seals are a dam sight cheaper than anew compressor...
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: j8ekt on July 31, 2012, 06:03:04 am
Mine was a pressure sensor was coming out as quick as the machine was putting the gas in about £55 pound from the dealers
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on July 31, 2012, 07:41:04 am
Thanks guys... I've been reading about the pressure sensor fault more and more  :happy2:

Fingers crossed  :innocent:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: apples12 on July 31, 2012, 08:37:47 am
Mine was blowing not quite as cold as it should be... Took it to 'motor climate' in Birmingham for a regas and service... They took my car away, I got it back and they told me my compressor had packed up! (and that of course they could fit me a sanden one for £350ish)

On the way home it was blowing WARM air!

Had a look under the bonnet and the cheeky barstewardss had broken off the plug which goes to the compressor! Patched that back on and I've got cold air con again.... Be careful with these so called experts....

Motor climate have been in Birmingham for yeeeears at least 10/15+ and specialise in compressors and air con...specialists my arse...
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: GolfGIT on July 31, 2012, 08:40:37 am
mine went last week, vw looked at mine today = new compressor

There's a guy called Honest John, who writes for the Telegraph Motoring magazine.
He reckons that Main Dealers are notorious for diagnosing compressor failure (cost £1000-ish), when quite often its only the compressor clutch at fault (£100-ish).
Take a look on his website - www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/air-conditioning to find a nearby specialist.
Hope this helps :wink:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on July 31, 2012, 09:05:06 am
Mine was blowing not quite as cold as it should be... Took it to 'motor climate' in Birmingham for a regas and service... They took my car away, I got it back and they told me my compressor had packed up! (and that of course they could fit me a sanden one for £350ish)

On the way home it was blowing WARM air!

Had a look under the bonnet and the cheeky barstewardss had broken off the plug which goes to the compressor! Patched that back on and I've got cold air con again.... Be careful with these so called experts....

Motor climate have been in Birmingham for yeeeears at least 10/15+ and specialise in compressors and air con...specialists my arse

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:


Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on July 31, 2012, 09:06:31 am
mine went last week, vw looked at mine today = new compressor

There's a guy called Honest John, who writes for the Telegraph Motoring magazine.
He reckons that Main Dealers are notorious for diagnosing compressor failure (cost £1000-ish), when quite often its only the compressor clutch at fault (£100-ish).
Take a look on his website - www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/air-conditioning to find a nearby specialist.
Hope this helps :wink:

Thanks GolfGiT  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Eccie on July 31, 2012, 09:11:53 am
My GTi went the same way last summer (and Audi just last week) on both occasions a air con service at the main dealers sorted them both out without any major expense
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: gazon69 on July 31, 2012, 09:27:03 am
Dont know whereabouts in the country you are carlo but statller is sheffield does aircon, i fact its his dads business "autorads" at the side of him. If its totally fooked just ditch it, stock cooler will get loads more air to it then, mine is gone. :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: stealthwolf on July 31, 2012, 09:42:56 am
Motor climate have been in Birmingham for yeeeears at least 10/15+ and specialise in compressors and air con...specialists my arse...
If you do find a decent place in Birmingham, please let me know.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 01, 2012, 01:26:10 am
My GTi went the same way last summer (and Audi just last week) on both occasions a air con service at the main dealers sorted them both out without any major expense

I'm hoping for a quick fix Eccie  :wink:

So did you just have the system re-gassed? Did the dealers say why all the gas had escaped?


Dont know whereabouts in the country you are carlo but statller is sheffield does aircon, i fact its his dads business "autorads" at the side of him. If its totally fooked just ditch it, stock cooler will get loads more air to it then, mine is gone. :happy2:


Sounds good GaZ  :happy2:

The car is booked in at a local indy on Saturday morning for pressure testing and then dye test (if needed).


I might get over to Stallers If it can't be sorted on Saturday.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: GTImike on August 01, 2012, 10:17:44 am
mine went last week, vw looked at mine today = new compressor

There's a guy called Honest John, who writes for the Telegraph Motoring magazine.
He reckons that Main Dealers are notorious for diagnosing compressor failure (cost £1000-ish), when quite often its only the compressor clutch at fault (£100-ish).
Take a look on his website - www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/air-conditioning to find a nearby specialist.
Hope this helps :wink:

Sorry to hijack your thread Monte, but just wanted to mention a problem with my AC which I'm thinking maybe this clutch issue.

My AC is playing up periodically and it always seems to be when I have first jumped in the car rather than if the engine has been running for say 15 mins. The AC button needs to pressed on and off about 4 or 5 times over a 5 min period to get any cold air. It doesn't happen every time and I only have noticed it recently (when we had our summer a few weeks ago!) I usually turn the AC on and off at least once every couple of weeks in colder months just to make sure it is working. It doesn't seem to happen at all when the engine has been running at operating temperature though.

Would anyone else say that this is the symptoms of the AC clutch going or the pressure switch. To me, it seems like a clutch issue on mine rather than the switch because it does work eventually and blows nice and cold. Just wondering if it is the pressure switch, would this not enable the AC at all.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Wilko on August 01, 2012, 05:17:14 pm
The Pressure switch is there to protect your other AC components.  It does this by not letting it run if there is low pressure in the system and hence low oil and coolant.

It's conceivable that your right on the fringe of that limit and it's flicking on and off.  I'd get it re gassed and see how you go to be honest.  If it is the compressor then it won't make any difference but at least you've given it a fighting chance.

I've had the pressure sensor changed on mine today, just waiting for a re-gas.  I can literally blow through the thing so clearly mine's faulty and has leaked most if not all of my coolant out.  To be honest the old part looks badly designed and pretty shoddy compared to the new one.  There's a small washer that's perished inside the column and that's simply not there one the new one !

I've attached a pic of the old one but sadly i forgot to take one of the new...  The green washer in the bottom seems to be what's failed but i can't be 100% sure ...
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8602629/Presure%20Switch/content/images/large/IMG_2609.jpg)
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: david25 on August 01, 2012, 05:49:15 pm
mine went last week, vw looked at mine today = new compressor

There's a guy called Honest John, who writes for the Telegraph Motoring magazine.
He reckons that Main Dealers are notorious for diagnosing compressor failure (cost £1000-ish), when quite often its only the compressor clutch at fault (£100-ish).
Take a look on his website - www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/air-conditioning to find a nearby specialist.
Hope this helps :wink:

True, just check your problems against know confirmed issues;

http://www.my-gti.com/1038/volkswagen-golf-gti-passat-jetta-and-eos-air-conditioner-compressor-failure
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: gtineal on August 01, 2012, 06:32:18 pm
Had mine re-gassed last year and all was fine until the recent warm weather showed it to be blowing warm air again  :sad1:, I've now replaced the pressure sensor and its going in Friday to have a full air con service done where they inject dye into the system and check for leaks.Fingers crossed its ok now don't want to be spending out on a new compressor especially after ordering 2 new michelin pilot 3's today ! Fingers crossed for you mate
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Starshaped on August 01, 2012, 07:09:10 pm
There is quite a common problem with the drive for the pully on the compressor wearing out so the pully is still spinning in place but not drivingthe compressor,check if the centre bolt on the pully is loose.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: rengti on August 01, 2012, 08:43:37 pm
Ok so my fan blowers in the car
Don't even work on any setting! Sounds more terminal? Fault code 04f9 fresh air blower mechanical fault
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: gtineal on August 03, 2012, 10:58:49 pm
Got mine sorted today, full pressure test as well, everything was ok so it looks like it was the pressure sensor that I replaced, oh and it hits  -10 in the car now like an icebox !  :grin: :jumping:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 03, 2012, 11:18:44 pm
Got mine sorted today, full pressure test as well, everything was ok so it looks like it was the pressure sensor that I replaced, oh and it hits  -10 in the car now like an icebox !  :grin: :jumping:

Awesome mate  :happy2:

Mines getting pressure tested in the morning!!!  Hope it's something easy like the pressure sensor on mine  :sad1:

How did you trace yours back to the sensor?  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: gtineal on August 04, 2012, 08:52:50 am
I didn't was just hoping it was that so I replaced it in the hope it would sort the problem, plus a mate in the trade got it really cheap so I had nothing to lose . :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: its_neil on August 04, 2012, 10:33:12 am
I had the same problem on the car I've only had 2 weeks!

Had it regassed as it was empty then literally 2 days later it went from icy cold to a heater, my AC fan was running like the clappers in the engine bay.

So far the garage have replaced the pressure sensor and another sensor (the name escapes me) and fingers crossed everything is working as it should.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Wilko on August 04, 2012, 11:56:25 am
If your getting a pressure test completed then the faulty switch should show up fairly easily.  When he pressured tested mine you could literally hear the air coming out of the switch !!

Re gas tomorrow so I'll let you know if the switch was all that's at fault
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 04, 2012, 03:11:24 pm
Not good news for me....  :sad1:

Can't believe my compressor would literally blow a hole in its casing  :surprised:


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2F4b6800f8.jpg&hash=52c7e257bf37499b1d7bc06a470c9a06dce725cd)
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Gene Hunt on August 04, 2012, 03:15:49 pm
That is really bad news mate.Did they say what could have caused it !!!!!!!!!! :scared:.What year is the car please?.
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Post by: Bignod00 on August 04, 2012, 03:52:33 pm
FFS mate, that's sh*te!:( Any idea on costs for this now? Bit scared to take mine in for diagnostics now!
Title: Re: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 04, 2012, 11:56:17 pm

That is really bad news mate.Did they say what could have caused it !!!!!!!!!! :scared:.What year is the car please?.


Baffled mate as to the cause ????  Its a 2007 Ed30  :happy2:

First we took the front grills off and tried some gas through. (it was totally empty before we started)

We used the leak test spray but couldn't find, hear, or see anything around the condenser.

We got the car up on the ramps and removed the under body plastic guards (can't remember the proper name for it)  :ashamed:

Thats when we saw the mess in the photo, and the cause of the leak.  :scared:

The hole in the compressor casing is nearly the size of a 2 pence piece  :surprised:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi612.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2F4b6800f8-1.jpg&hash=af8cb45df93ce64c4db39e08e8c46879698b9296)



The VAG specialists I use, have never known this happen before.


Anyone here seen it before???  :popcorn soda:




FFS mate, that's sh*te!:( Any idea on costs for this now? Bit scared to take mine in for diagnostics now!


The costs vary soooo much Matt.

An OEM one will cost £460+vat (cheapest)

An OE Spec one will cost £260+vat

An aftermarket one from ECP will cost £146+vat  :confused:



So if I can't do any better, Ill get the one from EuroCarParts   :happy2:

Title: Re: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Bignod00 on August 05, 2012, 07:19:59 am
Jesus dude, what a massive variation! You'll have to let me know where you took your motor to have this checked out as I'll take mine to the same place I think!
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: apples12 on August 05, 2012, 10:39:02 am
whatever you do, if your planning on keeping the car - dont get any other make than a Sanden compressor - you'll be back to square one with any other make and spending double the money to have it all fixed.

have you tried contacting VW and seeing what they've got to say about it? i'm sure a catastrophic failure like that would be covered maybe by goodwill if you've got service history with them maybe?
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Post by: bacillus on August 05, 2012, 11:42:25 am
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but for your sake I hope there aren't any shards in the system as if they are then you'll be needing more than a compressor to fix it properly.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 01:12:30 pm
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but for your sake I hope there aren't any shards in the system as if they are then you'll be needing more than a compressor to fix it properly.

TBH I did notice ALOT of tiny metal particles all around the pipe work where the hole is  :surprised: (you can see it clearly on the photo)  :scared:

What's the worst case scenario?

New condenser aswell?  :sad1:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 07:57:57 pm
whatever you do, if your planning on keeping the car - dont get any other make than a Sanden compressor - you'll be back to square one with any other make and spending double the money to have it all fixed.

have you tried contacting VW and seeing what they've got to say about it? i'm sure a catastrophic failure like that would be covered maybe by goodwill if you've got service history with them maybe?



Can you recommend somewhere to buy a compressor?

TBH I can't afford to pay for an OEM pump  :sad1:

I've just been on holiday for a month, spending far too much....and then I came back and spent loads more  :ashamed:

The pump from ECP comes with a warranty, so fingers crossed.  :innocent:



I'll give VW a call tmrw, but I didn't use the dealers for my last service. They couldn't price match the quote I got for the 4th service + DSG service  :confused:
I'm not very optimistic that they'll help.

Maybe if I complain about the pump failure enough they might take pity. I don't think the pumps are meant to explode  :scared:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 09:47:38 pm
The one I'm ordering is made by Zexel.

Zexel are basically Valeo compressors that have been re-branded mainly for Japanese distribution  :happy2:

 
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: bacillus on August 05, 2012, 10:25:39 pm
Out of curiousity, did you ever have the system serviced before this episode?
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 10:30:55 pm
No mate, I wasn't aware it was something I should do!!!

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Post by: Andy on August 05, 2012, 10:34:07 pm
Bloody hell never seen one do that before Carlo--hope you get it sorted :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 10:37:40 pm
Bloody hell never seen one do that before Carlo--hope you get it sorted :happy2:

Cheers Andy  :happy2:

...all those metal filings are worrying me  :sad1:



(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2F4b6800f8.jpg&hash=52c7e257bf37499b1d7bc06a470c9a06dce725cd)
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 10:40:43 pm
Am I right in thinking that even though I don't have the climate on whatsoever, will the pump still be spinning via the belt???

If I drive the car with the pump like this will it do any damage to anything else?  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Andy on August 05, 2012, 10:47:47 pm
Looking at the pic i would say the debris have blown outwards--if their is no strange noise coming from there it should be ok,
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Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 11:10:43 pm
Cheers Andy, that's exactly what the VW Indy said  :happy2:


What do all you guys think about the Zexel (Valeo) Compressors?

I think they come with 6mth warranty from EuroCarParts.




Also ECP are doing CASTROL EDGE 4L for £27  :jumping: (normally £38)

Use discount code OILSPILL30 at checkout  :happy2:

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.0_2007/p/car-accessories/engine-oils-and-car-fluids/engineoils/5w30-engine-oil/?521771021&0&cc5_247
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Andy on August 05, 2012, 11:12:51 pm
know valeo are a good make--but not sure on the others
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Post by: apples12 on August 05, 2012, 11:24:45 pm
Well, motor climate did say they'd supply the sanden one for 225, I just wouldn't trust them to fit it for sh*t.

Looking at that my-GTI link, I'm quite sure it was the zexel branded ones which were common for failure...

Really up to you how much you want to spend and how quickly you want to get it fixed!

In all honesty, depending on how good your mechanic is I don't think you'll need to change anything else...a good flush of the entire system ought to suffice on the proviso theres no leaks/holes...

What's the warranty on the ECP? And does it have to be fitted by a qualified mechanic etc...air con has to be serviced every 2 years btw...I only learnt this recently too..lol.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Andy on August 05, 2012, 11:27:57 pm
even in the winter switch the air con on for a few minutes to get that gas circulating
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Post by: Wilko on August 05, 2012, 11:38:26 pm
That's shockingly bad Monte.  I've had a little more luck thankfully.  Replaced then pressure sensor and had it regassed this morning.  Just got home after a 2 hour drive back from Chester and it was icy cold when I hit my street.  

Fixed for me hope you get yours sorted soon.  Whilst poking about the web looking for a compressor myself I found this

http://www.autoairconparts.co.uk/compressor-for-volkswagen-golf-mk5-2.0-fsi-petrol-man-auto-oct-03-to-oct-08-part-14-9698.html

So far as I read it you can get a Sanden compressor for 260.  Worth a phone call at least!
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Post by: monte on August 05, 2012, 11:57:14 pm
I've found a revised Sanden Px16 for £229 with free delivery  :laugh:

Have a look what these guys say about the Factory fit compressors  :surprised:

http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor-faults


They sell the Sanden P16 here...

http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html



Would you all recommend flushing the system or will it be ok to just fit the new pump?


Last of all,

Am I ok to still drive the car like it is???
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Post by: Wilko on August 06, 2012, 10:06:04 am
I've found a revised Sanden Px16 for £229 with free delivery  :laugh:

Have a look what these guys say about the Factory fit compressors  :surprised:

http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor-
I found that note as well mate a number of people have said to flush the system.  The AC guy I had out confirmed this also if the compressor had possibly introduced some swarf.

I would say your ok to drive it to be honest, Continue to use as normal.  I would get a system flush before fitting the new compressor though or you risk that failing and it costing for another new compressor....
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 06, 2012, 11:25:48 am
I've found a revised Sanden Px16 for £229 with free delivery  :laugh:

Have a look what these guys say about the Factory fit compressors  :surprised:

http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor-faults


They sell the Sanden P16 here...

http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html



Would you all recommend flushing the system or will it be ok to just fit the new pump?


Last of all,

Am I ok to still drive the car like it is???

I tried to order one this morning. I phoned to make sure it was the correct one and the guy tried to sell me it for £299 instead of £229   :confused:

He said he wouldn't sell me the pump on its own and that I needed a TZ filter And a dry unit???? For £70 extra  :surprised:

He said he had disabled the pay online function do people had to call for the info.


Back to the Zexel one then!
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Post by: holland15h on August 06, 2012, 06:27:45 pm
From Ecp they recommend me a sanden one and can get discount to about 220
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Post by: h4rdy on August 06, 2012, 06:38:05 pm
Just rip it all out :P
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 11, 2012, 12:27:18 am
Just rip it all out :P

Nooooooooo, I think I'm going through the change  :surprised:
The painkillers I'm on everyday give me real bad "Hot Flushes"  :ashamed:
I need AirCon.  :wink:


Got the new pump at the local Indy.
Having it fitted tmrw.

Does anyone think it's gonna need the whole system flushing?

Hopefully is gonna go nice without a hitch.  :smiley:
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Post by: Gene Hunt on August 11, 2012, 08:24:34 am
Just rip it all out :P

Nooooooooo, I think I'm going through the change  :surprised:
The painkillers I'm on everyday give me real bad "Hot Flushes"  :ashamed:
I need AirCon.  :wink:


Got the new pump at the local Indy.
Having it fitted tmrw.

Does anyone think it's gonna need the whole system flushing?

Hopefully is gonna go nice without a hitch.  :smiley:
............looking at the damage a full system flush would be recomended,not worth the risk i would say?. :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 11, 2012, 09:10:18 pm
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Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Andy on August 11, 2012, 09:39:11 pm
take it its all working now Carlo :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: bacillus on August 11, 2012, 10:00:01 pm
take it its all working now Carlo :happy2:

Probably just the drugs kicking in...   :laugh:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Andy on August 12, 2012, 01:21:30 am
take it its all working now Carlo :happy2:

Probably just the drugs kicking in...   :laugh:
:signLOL:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 12, 2012, 01:55:19 am
My AirCon is colder than a penguins ball bag again   :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: holland15h on August 12, 2012, 08:12:56 am
What did you change in the end, did you do a flush . What sort of time was taken to do the repair? Thanks
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: monte on August 12, 2012, 08:38:14 am
Breakdown of the labour and parts....

Inspection/diagnosis last Saturday,
Supply and fit new compressor,
System vacuum/flush (2hrs),
Pressure test,
Re-gas 525g of refrigerant.
1.8hrs labour @ £25  (mates rates)  :smiley:




£45 labour. It took 5hrs in total, but I was only charged £45  :pomppomp:

£65 for the gas  :pomppomp:

£180 for the new compressor (12 mth warranty)  :pomppomp:


£290 total cost.  :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:



....I wonder how much VW would have charged?  :scared:

Thank god for Independant Specialist like VagAutoCare  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Andy on August 12, 2012, 10:23:23 am
Excellent result just need the sun shine :happy2:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Statller-Stevo on August 12, 2012, 02:21:18 pm
Not good news for me....  :sad1:

Can't believe my compressor would literally blow a hole in its casing  :surprised:


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I've seen this before I would guess that some Guys don't refill the oil when the cars are gassed at the A/C shop
The compressor is a little engine really it needs oil and servicing, if it's starved then this happens
Remember this things runs at engine speed all the time they are clutchless by design
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Cupra R on August 12, 2012, 03:16:09 pm
Steve

Do you do AC work?

My AC is intermittent.

Sometimes icy cold sometimes warm. I do get a fault code (can't remember it off the top of my head) but my dealer didn't recognise it.

I "think" it's the actuator valve on the side of the AC pump???

Sorry monte for my query, but it is relevant to bust AC and it could maybe help others in the future.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 12, 2012, 03:18:11 pm

You're asking the right person for help Rich, SteveSeniors business is AutoRads next door to Statller so aircon specialists  :wink:
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Cupra R on August 12, 2012, 03:21:31 pm

You're asking the right person for help Rich, SteveSeniors business is AutoRads next door to Statller so aircon specialists  :wink:

Ah right. I should of done my homework lol. Cheers Mike.
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Statller-Stevo on August 12, 2012, 03:58:57 pm
Steve

Do you do AC work?

My AC is intermittent.

Sometimes icy cold sometimes warm. I do get a fault code (can't remember it off the top of my head) but my dealer didn't recognise it.

I "think" it's the actuator valve on the side of the AC pump???

Sorry monte for my query, but it is relevant to bust AC and it could maybe help others in the future.

Yes, it could be the control valve that's bust, you need the code really, I have some with bad connections and some that the valve is cracked on if the cars had a little nose bleed at some point
They do also just stick and can't pop the door open to let the gas flow
You could try to fix it but it'll prob re-appear so best get another pump if you want it 100%
I don't think the valve can be bought on its own could be wrong though
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Cupra R on August 12, 2012, 04:15:13 pm
Steve

Do you do AC work?

My AC is intermittent.

Sometimes icy cold sometimes warm. I do get a fault code (can't remember it off the top of my head) but my dealer didn't recognise it.

I "think" it's the actuator valve on the side of the AC pump???

Sorry monte for my query, but it is relevant to bust AC and it could maybe help others in the future.

Yes, it could be the control valve that's bust, you need the code really, I have some with bad connections and some that the valve is cracked on if the cars had a little nose bleed at some point
They do also just stick and can't pop the door open to let the gas flow
You could try to fix it but it'll prob re-appear so best get another pump if you want it 100%
I don't think the valve can be bought on its own could be wrong though

Fault code is;

00898 - Control Circuit A/C Compressor
             010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Statller-Stevo on August 12, 2012, 04:19:54 pm
Steve

Do you do AC work?

My AC is intermittent.

Sometimes icy cold sometimes warm. I do get a fault code (can't remember it off the top of my head) but my dealer didn't recognise it.

I "think" it's the actuator valve on the side of the AC pump???

Sorry monte for my query, but it is relevant to bust AC and it could maybe help others in the future.

Yes, it could be the control valve that's bust, you need the code really, I have some with bad connections and some that the valve is cracked on if the cars had a little nose bleed at some point
They do also just stick and can't pop the door open to let the gas flow
You could try to fix it but it'll prob re-appear so best get another pump if you want it 100%
I don't think the valve can be bought on its own could be wrong though

Fault code is;

00898 - Control Circuit A/C Compressor
             010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

Either the valve is broken on the plug end by impact (or plug itself) or the Pumps fuxxed bro !
I'd guess the latter , it's an easy power test job to determine, just pop the plug and test for power when the AC plays up next you can get to it from the top easy enough, if there's power but an inop pump then then it's the obvious
Title: Re: Air Con ..... Gone :-(
Post by: Cupra R on August 12, 2012, 04:29:16 pm
Steve

Do you do AC work?

My AC is intermittent.

Sometimes icy cold sometimes warm. I do get a fault code (can't remember it off the top of my head) but my dealer didn't recognise it.

I "think" it's the actuator valve on the side of the AC pump???

Sorry monte for my query, but it is relevant to bust AC and it could maybe help others in the future.

Yes, it could be the control valve that's bust, you need the code really, I have some with bad connections and some that the valve is cracked on if the cars had a little nose bleed at some point
They do also just stick and can't pop the door open to let the gas flow
You could try to fix it but it'll prob re-appear so best get another pump if you want it 100%
I don't think the valve can be bought on its own could be wrong though

Fault code is;

00898 - Control Circuit A/C Compressor
             010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

Either the valve is broken on the plug end by impact (or plug itself) or the Pumps fuxxed bro !
I'd guess the latter , it's an easy power test job to determine, just pop the plug and test for power when the AC plays up next you can get to it from the top easy enough, if there's power but an inop pump then then it's the obvious


Cheers Steve.

I'll give it a whirl.