MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Panthera on August 09, 2012, 10:58:13 am
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Is there a way to leave the windows down a small amount - and still look the car with the remote without the alarm going off.
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Yeah, on the drivers B pillar next to the seat there should be 2 buttons, ones to turn the interior sensors off and ones to turn off the anti lift. Before locking push the one interior sensor one and it should light up orange from red and then lock as normal
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The best way i think would be to press the little button on the B pillar at the side of the drivers seat. This disables the interior sensors. You can also do it when looking off the key with a double press but this takes the deadlocks off aswell.
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Yeah, on the drivers B pillar next to the seat there should be 2 buttons, ones to turn the interior sensors off and ones to turn off the anti lift. Before locking push the one interior sensor one and it should light up orange from red and then lock as normal
I think I just have the one button - interior sensors - drivers b pillar quite low down.
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That's the one, press it before closing your door and locking the car.
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It is one but it's like a rocker switch with a raised line in the middle, (it is on my gti) and iirc press the bottom and it does the anti lift and press the top for the interior sensors
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i must have a problem with my alarm then as i can leave the windows (3 door) down a little and tilt the sunroof lock the car then go to the shops without the alarm going off,
And witout disabling the interior alarm.
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i must have a problem with my alarm then as i can leave the windows (3 door) down a little and tilt the sunroof lock the car then go to the shops without the alarm going off,
And witout disabling the interior alarm.
Mines the same, although when you put your arm through it goes off
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Gosh! I've had my GTI for 7 years, driven 100,000 miles and never noticed any buttons low down on the B-pillar!
Since fitting Climair wind n rain deflectors (I can strongly recommend them), I sometimes leave all 4 windows lowered a fraction but never below the bottom edge of each ClimAir. You can't easily see if the window is lowered at all.
I only ever do this if it's a very hot day and I'm staying in sight of my car.
I expect that an insurance company would say that even if the doors were locked, if you left any windows open, even a fraction, your claim against your car theft would become invalid.
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What's that got to do with insurance claims?
That's like saying if they smash a window to get in your claim is invalid. :stupid:
Provided you don't leave the keys in the car then I see no problem, the car will be deadlocked and alarmed just without interior monitoring and with windows down a fraction.
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I can't see there being a problem with a fraction as the window would still be required to be smashed. If the window is left fully open that's a different kettle of fish IMO
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What's that got to do with insurance claims?
That's like saying if they smash a window to get in your claim is invalid. :stupid:
Provided you don't leave the keys in the car then I see no problem, the car will be deadlocked and alarmed just without interior monitoring and with windows down a fraction.
....Why don't you stop and think, bother to read my post more carefully, before you call me stupid (:stupid:)?
I started my post with the words: "I expect that..." meaning I'm not certain but would not be surprised if...
My thinking is that POSSIBLY leaving any window down, even fractionally, is tantamount to leaving your car unsecured and inviting an easier break-in (leverage). Of course I may be wrong but I think it's a valid point worth raising in this discussion. I'm now inclined to actually ask my insurer about this specific question.
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I can't see there being a problem with a fraction as the window would still be required to be smashed. If the window is left fully open that's a different kettle of fish IMO
....I think you are probably right :happy2: However, I'm now curious and will call my insurer with the question in the morning.
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....Why don't you stop and think, bother to read my post more carefully, before you call me stupid (:stupid:)?
Why you don't stop and think before posting so why should I. :grin:
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Well, everyone please take note:
According to my insurer (Highway): Whether deadlocked, with or without the alarm, leaving any of your windows open even fractions of an inch and including the sunroof, is deemed as you not fulfilling your responsibility for fully securing your car against theft. Leaving any window gap may assist a thief to break into your car. And therefore, an insurer might be justifiably within his rights to invalidate your claim. It may also depend on knowledge of the full circumstances on the day but they very strongly advise against the undeniable risk by leaving any window openings.
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Well, everyone please take note:
According to my insurer (Highway): Whether deadlocked, with or without the alarm, leaving any of your windows open even fractions of an inch and including the sunroof, is deemed as you not fulfilling your responsibility for fully securing your car against theft. Leaving any window gap may assist a thief to break into your car. And therefore, an insurer might be justifiably within his rights to invalidate your claim. It may also depend on knowledge of the full circumstances on the day but they very strongly advise against the undeniable risk by leaving any window openings.
Er am I missing something here?
Just don't tell them that you left the windows open!
You would be a right knob to do so!
'My car has been stolen and I left the windows open' cue huge gaffaw from the insurance office!
Whats with all the aggression at the moment anyway? How about some :love:
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It's entirely up to you what risks you are comfortable to take and how you behave subsequently.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility for an insurance expert to ascertain how the thief gained entry to your car and hence invalidate your claim if a window was able to be levered open because it was slightly down.
I'm only bothering to post in this thread in an attempt to help by pointing out such aspects. There's no aggression from me. :smiley:
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If they steal the car that ain't gonna happen either is it.
The only way they can steal the car is with the key or tow it away.
If they steal your radio I doubt they would bother for a couple of hundred quid.
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Regardless of the potential/possible insurance issue, why do anything (such as leaving any windows partly down/open) to assist a thief?
Unfortunately, in practice most people ignore a car alarm going off because we have become so used to false alarms.
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Its not assisting a thief is it robin?
Its letting a bit of air in the car on a hot day?
Nobody is saying they leave the window open to 'assist a thief'!
Totally off topic now end of.
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Its not assisting a thief is it robin?
Its letting a bit of air in the car on a hot day?
Nobody is saying they leave the window open to 'assist a thief'!
Totally off topic now end of.
....The topic is about leaving windows down and alarms. What are alarms for? - To alert you to some scumbag trying to get into your car uninvited. If scumbag sees a window gap, surely it presents him/her with an added option to gain entry. Whether you like it or not, it is your responsibility to do all you can to prevent theft - Read your insurance policy. It's also in your best interests.
Of course no-one leaves a window open with the intention of assisting a thief. Letting a bit of air in a parked car on a hot day is desirable, but it does increase the security risk - Just ask your insurer.
You can choose to leave windows open and then lie to your insurer (as you advocate) if you wish but I reckon you might wish you closed them if you had a theft. Windows up and alarm on is obviously more secure and also less inviting.
I've now contributed enough to this discussion so that folks can make up their own minds about how they want to leave their unattended cars.
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It is one but it's like a rocker switch with a raised line in the middle, (it is on my gti) and iirc press the bottom and it does the anti lift and press the top for the interior sensors
Can you take a pic Nodz? I'm intrigued to see your switches. :ashamed: I just have the one for the interior sensors. I use this when Bob is left in the car for a few minutes :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt210%2Fmonte0797%2F06cece03.jpg&hash=d7c92df17db8794a98c76c53f1dc96879c5fbd7d)
It's a great feature. If I forget to press the button (with Bob inside) before locking the car, the Alarm always goes off.
i must have a problem with my alarm then as i can leave the windows (3 door) down a little and tilt the sunroof lock the car then go to the shops without the alarm going off,
And witout disabling the interior alarm.
It's easy to check. Basically sit in the car (no keys in ignition) sit still and lock yourself in. Then when you move the alarm should go off. :wink:
Either that or put a dog inside and lock the door....again without pressing the button on the B pillar. The dog moving will set off the alarm. :happy2:
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I like Bob,cute dog. :smiley:
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Bob The Dog is a star! I love the VW emblem around his neck, the mark of a real enthusiast (or hardcore Beastie Boys fan), and look what he has done to the little guy who got into your car! :grin:
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I will do monte, I'm in work til lunch so it won't be until this afternoon :happy2:
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I will do monte, I'm in work til lunch so it won't be until this afternoon :happy2:
....That's not good enough! We want to see a pic now !!
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Here's the pic of the switch in my car, sorry about the quality but sun was in the wrong place and was taken with my Iphone.
So this is the switch with nothing selected:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2Faad2q0.jpg&hash=98591f99b92434cf41b5c92afcacbf16940f2d25)
With interior sensors disabled:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fo0vvxy.jpg&hash=b3c511ba1eefd3a258de096f0c7f36ed81431921)
With anti lift disabled:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F35d5nxz.jpg&hash=1e0016213e395a95d8c66742981ef13174e6d5ac)
With both disabled:
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Once you taken the key out the ignition select which ones you want. Only thing is once one of them has been pressed it cannot be deselected so you have to lock then unlock the car