MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: E30Dom on August 11, 2012, 10:14:48 am
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Hi Guys,
I have been speaking to Alan of AutoSpecialists regarding a possible group buy on Airtec's Replacement Front Mounted Intercooler. They are mainly ford specialists but looking to branch more into VAG stuff.
The Intercooler is this one;
http://www.autospecialists.co.uk/New-for-2012-Airtecs-Intercooler-upgrade-for-the-VAG-20-Petrol-TFSI---Finished-In-Silver-Product-1073.html
He says AMD have fitted 10+ units of these all with great results, and they are currently building a big bhp demo car with one of these fitted...
Price is £495 + delivery no doubt, but he will look at pricing for +5 units if there's interest.
Please confirm you interest below.
Thanks,
Dom
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I'd be interested depending on price...
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I'd be interested depending on price...
+2 depending on price
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+3 price depending
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Looks alright that is it +VAT as well.
I have the THS but looks a good price to me.
Factor in quite a bit of Labour unless you can do it yourself.
Slam panel needs to come off so its a two man job.
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I think even if we get 10% off it'll be the cheapest upgrade Intercooler kit...
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Alan has come back with price of £450 delivered.
Any interest?
Dom
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I'm definitely interested :happy2:
Looks the same as the THS/APR one. Is it the same volume and build construction as them. :smiley:
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Im glad autospecialist / airtech are branching out to vw they make some cracking kit !
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Hey Dom
Bit off your topic, but do you think your guy would include the Twin spec in this group buy?
http://www.autospecialists.co.uk/AIRTEC-Twin-Spec-Intercooler-for-Golf-Gti-Mk56-20-TFSi---Polished-Finish-Product-1085.html (http://www.autospecialists.co.uk/AIRTEC-Twin-Spec-Intercooler-for-Golf-Gti-Mk56-20-TFSi---Polished-Finish-Product-1085.html)
I've already got an FMIC, but would certainly be interested in this if at all possible. Sorry if this confuses matters :drinking:
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i can get the airtec twin take for £410 for orders over 5.
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i can get the airtec twin take for £410 for orders over 5.
Edd, not trying to tread on your toes here, but can you get the FMIC any better than £450?
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I'd also be interested depending on the final price :party:
Dave
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i was looking at these yesterday
i know the RS guys love these but are there any test results on vags?
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i can get the airtec twin take for £410 for orders over 5.
Edd, not trying to tread on your toes here, but can you get the FMIC any better than £450?
possibly, its difficult because when i start the group buy off i have to buy one! I'm cash strapped till next month at the moment! I certainly think the company im using will be getting a much better deal as they buy from them a lot.
If you can wait, i will get in touch next month and get the ball rolling. Maybe we can do a group buy for both together and get more numbers which will drag the price down.
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The Airtec TWIN SPEC seems a very good option as it saves a significant amount on labour costs compared to the Airtec INTERCOOLER.
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I'm definitely interested but will depend on final price
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The Airtec TWIN SPEC seems a very good option as it saves a significant amount on labour costs compared to the Airtec INTERCOOLER.
What is the TWIN SPEC??
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The Airtec TWIN SPEC seems a very good option as it saves a significant amount on labour costs compared to the Airtec INTERCOOLER.
What is the TWIN SPEC??
forge twintercooler ripoff
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The Airtec TWIN SPEC seems a very good option as it saves a significant amount on labour costs compared to the Airtec INTERCOOLER.
What is the TWIN SPEC??
forge twintercooler ripoff
Because anyone that makes a intercooler that works along side the OEM intercooler is ripping of an item forge make? :rolleye:
These items are bar and plate intercoolers and are make to a high standard if the reviews are anything to go by. I have one waiting for me so will post up pictures when i go get it.
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What is the best one to fit the twin with standard intercooler or replacing the standard one with the one in the first post?
And had anyone successfully fitted the twin model to a mk5?
I assume the twin would be much easier for fitting
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What is the best one to fit the twin with standard intercooler or replacing the standard one with the one in the first post?
And had anyone successfully fitted the twin model to a mk5?
I assume the twin would be much easier for fitting
according to their website and their tests the front mount one will be better.
The front will be easier fitting.
I believe a few people on here have one fitted, i have one waiting for me at my friends garage, i wont be processing the group buy until i have seen and fitted mine (dont want to push these then find out they dont fit!) I have the S3 cooler too so will be interesting to see if they work along side that cooler.
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The Airtec TWIN SPEC seems a very good option as it saves a significant amount on labour costs compared to the Airtec INTERCOOLER.
What is the TWIN SPEC??
forge twintercooler ripoff
Because anyone that makes a intercooler that works along side the OEM intercooler is ripping of an item forge make? :rolleye:
These items are bar and plate intercoolers and are make to a high standard if the reviews are anything to go by. I have one waiting for me so will post up pictures when i go get it.
What I'm saying is that it's a copy of forge's product...
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Airtech and autospecialist make great products some of the best ive ever bought, i have an airtech on the RS and its great ( won all the cooler group tests ) if i didnt already have an THS i would of been on the gb
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What is the best one to fit the twin with standard intercooler or replacing the standard one with the one in the first post?
And had anyone successfully fitted the twin model to a mk5?
I assume the twin would be much easier for fitting
according to their website and their tests the front mount one will be better.
The front will be easier fitting.
I believe a few people on here have one fitted, i have one waiting for me at my friends garage, i wont be processing the group buy until i have seen and fitted mine (dont want to push these then find out they dont fit!) I have the S3 cooler too so will be interesting to see if they work along side that cooler.
....I think I'm right in saying that the term 'FMIC' normally means Front Mounted Intercooler and a front mounted is fitted right up front like a Forge Twintercooler and not like the larger OEM intercooler.
So, are either of Airtec's intercoolers including in this Group Buy or just the one which replaces the OEM?
A front mounted i/c will be significantly cheaper on labour costs and as the Airtec TWIN SPEC (as Airtec call it) is cheaper than the Forge Twintercooler, is it as good or is it better value?
So, will adding a TWIN SPEC to run with an OEM i/c deliver better performance than just replacing the OEM with Airtec's INTERCOOLER? Because if so isn't it a bit of a no-brainer because it's also a cheaper option?
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What I'm saying is that it's a copy of forge's product...
....At the risk of sounding pedantic I think you mean it's a direct equivalent and a competitor of the Forge Twintercooler. But I understood that you didn't mean rip-off in your first post. :happy2:
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I need the big fmic anyway as the plastic end caps on the .:R Probably won't hold up under the higher pressures I'll be wanting.
Hmm, would they do both I wonder? :laugh:
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I have a Airtec twin spec waiting to go on my ed30 and the quality so far is really good!
Am I bothered its not got a forge badge on??! :booty:
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I have a Airtec twin spec waiting to go on my ed30 and the quality so far is really good!
Am I bothered its not got a forge badge on??! :booty:
....Rather than be bothered about the brand/badge, isn't it more important to learn which delivers the best performance or whether there are any differences in build quality or design?
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I need the big fmic anyway as the plastic end caps on the .:R Probably won't hold up under the higher pressures I'll be wanting.
Hmm, would they do both I wonder? :laugh:
I will ask the question for you, if they have the correct hoses for both to be fitted at once.
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I will be interested on the larger one depending on price or maybe just the smaller one :party: stage 2+ is being held back. I need more power :grin:
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I have a Airtec twin spec waiting to go on my ed30 and the quality so far is really good!
Am I bothered its not got a forge badge on??! :booty:
....Rather than be bothered about the brand/badge, isn't it more important to learn which delivers the best performance or whether there are any differences in build quality or design?
Airtec as previously said is well known,albeit not in the vag world but mostly in the ford world from what I can see. I'm sure they love their cars just as much as us and with that comes them doing there homework and not just bolting any old rubbish to their car! With that said I can't see Airtec not applying there knowledge or quality to a cooler for a golf, so as far as that goes I trust the quality and unlike most in this thread I have one in front of me and I'm not just looking at Internet pictures or passing on hearsay from bobs neighbours brother.
As for which delivers the best performance, i don't need the best I just want better than what I had. The difference between the forge and Airtec twin spec/cooler I doubt would be noticed on the road. As for testing there is a little bit of testing behind the twin spec unit on Airtec's site showing comparisons on a ko3 gti in standard and stage 1 tune I believe.
Obviously these all my views and it's not meant to be a rant, just saying.
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I need the big fmic anyway as the plastic end caps on the .:R Probably won't hold up under the higher pressures I'll be wanting.
Hmm, would they do both I wonder? :laugh:
The plastic end caps will hold just fine and will easily cope with pressures we run our cars at :happy2: They are made of the same plastic as the intake manifold so are very strong.
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I have fitted airtec to a couple focus'.
Over all the coolers on the market, this airtec reduced AIT's considerably more than the others on offer.
Build quality was fine & fitment was direct bolt on.
The price was significantly lower than it's competitors.
I have not fiited these to VAG, so cannot comment on fitment etc but I would have no qualms in fitting one on mine :smiley:
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So where are we with this? Edd can you get any cheaper through your source than £450 for the Full FMIC and £410 for the Twin Cooler?
Hurdy mentions he's ordered one for his Golf R from the GB on here, but didn't realise one was happening yet?
Dom
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can we run both? wonder how low IAT's would be with both coolers and WMI :laugh:
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can we run both? wonder how low IAT's would be with both coolers and WMI :laugh:
I believe you would get lumps of ice out the tailpipes... :rolleye:
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can we run both? wonder how low IAT's would be with both coolers and WMI :laugh:
I believe you would get lumps of ice out the tailpipes... :rolleye:
.... :laugh:
Do you prefer your drinks on the rocks, shaken, or stirred?
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can we run both? wonder how low IAT's would be with both coolers and WMI :laugh:
Steve Jr is running the THS cooler (same size as the airtec) on his car with over 450bhp and his EGT's and IAT's are low enough, so I doubt that both would be needed. :smiley:
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Look for an update from me Wednesday/Thursday next week with Final prices for the FMIC and the unrated cooler.
OR as E30DOM started the thread and I might not be able to beat the price he got, if your in a rush contact Airtec directly for a FMIC price?
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Cheers,
I can wait till Wed/Thurs as I haven't even got the car yet. :happy2:
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I read a review in redline magazine a fair few months back now which compared th Airtec, forge, Pace and a few other intercoolers when used on a MK2 Ford Focus RS.
iirc the airtec showed decent gains in power and torque but was the worst performing intercooler whne it came to recovery after repeated runs.
The Forge and Pace coolers performed slightly less on the power gains(only marginal iirc) but had much better recovery.
The guys reviewing it were pretty impressed at how well it performed given how chwap it is compared to the others on the market, but i think said something about how the recovery was just as important as gaining power and cooling IATs.
Just something to bear in mind.
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anyone needing pics of the twin spec airtec cooler fitted ive just put a satin black one on my stage 2 ed30 :happy2:
pics are in my blog/thread > http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,39823.75.html
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I have a twin spec fmic for sale(shameless plug)....need the cash!