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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: neg on August 12, 2012, 08:56:43 am

Title: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: neg on August 12, 2012, 08:56:43 am
Saw a friend last night who's running a BRZ now - really rated it, the design behind it sounds interesting.  Came from a Mk6 GTI, he's said its close to a Lotus Elise type feel but in a more everyday car - he's has a few Elise's, latest S4, Z4M, 130M so IMO a he's got some experience to compare it too.

Engine sounds sweet, although more power wouldn't go a miss.  Sounds there are some tuning options on the horizon though.  Subaru seem to be limiting their supply where as Toyota not so much.

I was quite impressed, be interesting to see what the Subaru STI version and Toyota TRD actually do bring

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Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 12, 2012, 09:12:10 am
Nice cars really like em look loads of fun
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: marka87uk on August 12, 2012, 10:18:31 am
I like the look of them - and they have a really low point of gravity so handle excellently apparently.

Can't help but feel they should have more power too though... 200 horses doesn't seem that much these days, but I can imagine they are fun to drive! :happy2:
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: Andy on August 12, 2012, 10:29:31 am
Had a brz in at work last week,never got to test drive it but it could do with more power
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: neg on August 12, 2012, 10:39:23 am
I think we all know it needs more power, even my mate said so but the fun driving experience makes up for it - when they release an STI version he said he will swap it for that.  

He's running this one in and still getting 40MPG on a commute to work which he was impressed at - not that fuel consumption was a key factor, just a bonus.

The planned future versions look even better, shame the estimated price could be £40k - a bit of a jump!
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Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: sub39h on August 12, 2012, 10:46:42 am
i really like them - the only question is which one to have

i reckon the Toyota will hold it's value better, but the Subaru has the nicer badge for petrol heads.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: neg on August 12, 2012, 11:31:01 am
5yr warranty too
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on August 12, 2012, 06:42:26 pm
I really, really like them. So what if they're not going to break the sound barrier... they're still plenty quick enough and the way they carry speed through corners puts other stuff to shame. Plus, in a world of FWD/AWD... it makes a nice change to see a fun RWD competing with the hot hatch market.

Let's face it, we don't have straight roads in GB, so is 1/4 mile pace really that important?

Despite the rave reviews, I still reckon they'll depreciate like a rotting peach, so it'll be a nice cheap "drive to the track and enjoy it" car in a few years.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: Hedge on August 12, 2012, 07:49:13 pm
It will probably be like the MX-5, pretty soon the blower kits will start appearing.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on August 12, 2012, 08:12:01 pm
Gazoo already has a twincharged kit on the go, 320bhp!

That said, it's a fair bit lighter than that Clio 200 I had, and I used to drive around things in that like they were standing still - if this handles as well, it won't feel slow at all.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: neg on August 12, 2012, 08:53:52 pm
From what I gather is handles really well - suppose it should, its been designed that way.  Speed isn't everything like you say, the Elise isn't the quickest thing in the world but driving is great fun and enough for what it is.

tempted myself, look better in the flesh.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on August 16, 2012, 10:44:13 am
Anyone seen Monkey's video on Pistonheads th appeared today? Very interesting viewing.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 16, 2012, 10:50:22 am
yep he loves that car but he said you cant knock a used cayman
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: andrewparker on August 16, 2012, 11:04:03 am
I'm looking forward to seeing this car as a Long Term test car, see how it stacks up in everyday life, rather than on idyllic roads.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: sub39h on August 16, 2012, 11:14:30 am
yep he loves that car but he said you cant knock a used cayman

it hadn't actually occurred to me that you can get a Cayman for similar money

and i take his point about it being used and your purchase not being backed by a warranty, but when the new Cayman is released, the near-new cars will drop in value and then i'm not sure the same argument applies

tough choice really. i'd probably end up with the Porsche
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: andrewparker on August 16, 2012, 11:21:57 am
yep he loves that car but he said you cant knock a used cayman

and i take his point about it being used and your purchase not being backed by a warranty...


You won't touch 5 years, but if you buy a car from the Porsche Approved scheme you can purchase two years full warranty (comparable to their new car warranty) for £1700. With used Cayman prices as they are it looks pretty feasible that you could work that into the total cost of ownership.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: tony_danza on August 16, 2012, 11:32:00 am
yep he loves that car but he said you cant knock a used cayman

For sure, it will still feel like a beautifully engineered £50k car in used form and the GT86 is a different animal.

The Toybaru still looks a bucket of fun, and a serious bargain in a couple of years.... With 3 years warranty left too!
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: Fozzy on August 21, 2012, 10:35:34 pm
I currently work for Toyota and have our demo now for the last month and half....what a difference 2000 miles makes!!

Lovely car and turning the salesman head off it really is a car you have to drive before you can judge it!!! Its well planted and more than enough to lose your licence.

Also found out from a friend who works for admiral they are 8 insurance groups difference and the suspension is different on the BRZ! Looking forward to seeing the TRD version hitting our showroom early Januray im being told!
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: daboy3000 on August 22, 2012, 01:05:24 pm
Running a Porsche is a whole different ballgame to running a Toyota.  Trust me, I've been there.
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: SteveS on September 30, 2012, 09:00:44 pm
So, just thought id bump this..
I just saw the advert for the Toyota GT86.. i think it looks fantastic. Looks like it handles really well and gets good reviews..
Major downs are the lack of power and no flappy paddle option, although that may go against the "old school" feel it seems they went for?

Still, very interesting and very cheap
Title: Re: Subaru BRZ or Toyota GT86
Post by: TIGER-UPPERCUT on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 am
Saw one in the flesh last night, looked really nice.

Think the American boys have already turbo charged one 280bhp

http://www.tune86.com/ft-86-news/23387-accelerated-performance-turbocharger-kit-278whp (http://www.tune86.com/ft-86-news/23387-accelerated-performance-turbocharger-kit-278whp)

Cant see much problem off adding a supercharger to these as well....the old toyota corolla twin cams could be supercharged.