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Title: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: omar2222 on August 13, 2012, 07:12:21 am
Hi all,

I bought an edition 30 from a forum member here (horatio), just wanted some advice on remaps. Which is the best one to go for for all round reliability, the car spins a bit in 1st gear as it is so what would be the best remap for it ?

and is Bluefin any good? thanks!!!
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Poverty on August 13, 2012, 07:42:33 am
APR fully loaded map.


Blufin is said to be a tamer map.
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Saintsteve on August 13, 2012, 08:56:00 am
Bluefin is a very good value map. If your not planning going to stage 2+ and on , then it's seriously worth considering.

I'm now more than happy on my Bluefin stage 2 map.. And it'll keep with cars on equal stage with no trouble.

Company's like APR and Revo come into their own in Stage 2+ and on, if your planning to go all out.

Bluefin will transform the car from Stock. just insure they give you the correct Transmision type Remap to avoid any teathing issues.  :happy2:

HTH
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Greeners on August 13, 2012, 09:16:28 am
Can only echo what Steve has said. Bluefin is great up to ST2 but if you want to go any higher then Revo or APR.  :happy2:

(I've had all three so I'm talking from first hand experience)
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: GTImike on August 13, 2012, 09:18:56 am
Another vote for Bluefin here :happy2:

Whilst some say its not an agressive map, I'd personally disagree, Stage 1 transformed my ED30 DSG and you certainly know its been installed. I'm just about to go Stage 2 today, just another £50  :party: now that my my Milltek downpipe is in place. I think this will give around 320 - 325bhp which is more than enough for any front wheel drive car in our moist country.

Like others will say though, if you're after total balls out performance then APR and Revo seem to be kings but for value for money and cheap upgrade potential to a point, Bluefin is hard to knock.
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Shorty on August 13, 2012, 09:42:50 am
Where are you based?
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: omar2222 on August 13, 2012, 10:57:24 am
Thanks for all the replies, Im in London

Wheres the best place to purchase the Bluefin from? Think I got my mind made up  :happy2:

Another thing is the car has warranty so where do I stand with the bluefin and warranty, is it easily taken off and reinstalled via the plug in computer they give you just in case I need to send the car in for work?
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on August 13, 2012, 11:44:13 am
go APR fully loaded. its totaly awsome in everyway.

bluefin maps are very tame and tbh i think SC have lost it abit
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: PDT on August 13, 2012, 12:43:47 pm
There are lots of options, Bluefin is a convenient method, but also has the downside of a much tamer power delivery than other alternatives. Also look at using a 'real' tuner as opposed to a generic 1 size fits all option, they will set the car up on the dyno and usually end up with a better final product that is more suited to the car.

I know a few tuners in London that know the TFSi very well and have dyno facilities, feel free to PM me if you want their details.
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Saintsteve on August 13, 2012, 01:19:03 pm
well if my bluefin is tame as you say, then the other tuners and maps must be totally useless getting the power down  :stupid:

apart from massive torque which most tuners brag about being better, having lesser torque is sometimes as good if not better getting off the mark, without pending endless pots of cash to help try and control whel hop and grip issues.

a stage 2 bluefin car will be as quick down the quarter mile as an equivalent Revo 2 car as an example.Its all pub talk.

Superchips spend as much money as Revo or Apr doing in the R&D.

People automatically dis bluefin for being entherior because it's "not as aggressive " as others. Aggressive isn't always the best policy for the life of certain parts of your car if it's set up to the max.

Sorry for getting on my soap box, but I feel not enough credit falls on Superchips especially with their good and helpful after sales.

 :grin:


I do agree a real tuner like PDT that sets the car up, is also a very good choice, also including company's like R-tech in Hinkley.
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on August 13, 2012, 08:07:02 pm
but why would you go to a company that does some work on a car then moves on to the next instead of a company who specialise in a type of car

its kind of like saying would you hire a plumber to fix your gas or a general handy man.

jack of all trades master of none?
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Greeners on August 13, 2012, 08:16:30 pm
Blimey here we go again, wheres the nearest brick wall!!  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Hedge on August 13, 2012, 08:25:13 pm
Blimey here we go again, wheres the nearest brick wall!!  :rolleye:

Join the queue.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Andy_Ed30 on August 13, 2012, 09:52:30 pm
I done hours of research on this topic.

In the end I went for superchips. 

Goggle is your friend!!
Title: Re: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: mdmay on August 14, 2012, 07:30:36 am
where in London are you as I have a remapped K04 car if you want to try one. I live in wanstead e11

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Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Saintsteve on August 14, 2012, 10:05:51 am
but why would you go to a company that does some work on a car then moves on to the next instead of a company who specialise in a type of car

its kind of like saying would you hire a plumber to fix your gas or a general handy man.

jack of all trades master of none?

 :confused:
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Saintsteve on August 14, 2012, 10:08:56 am
go APR fully loaded. its totaly awsome in everyway.

bluefin maps are very tame and tbh i think SC have lost it abit


can you expand on this??

Or perhaps not in the interest of the said Wall being damaged... :signLOL:

I think it's best not to, and leave it to the O.P to decide which route he goes.
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: E30Dom on August 14, 2012, 10:16:49 am
Was very happy with my Revo Stage 1 on my edition and made a strong 290bhp on JKM's rollers... I doubt anyone will get much more than this with any other map on JKM's rollers... those who say 300 is possible, i'd like to see...

Also very please with Revo Stage 2, now that I have the supporting mods and more...

Look forward to seeing what 2+ is like once an Intercooler is on... (only thing holding it back now - heatsoak).

I chose Revo as they specialise(d) in VAG cars, not every marque they could.

Title: Re: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: mdmay on August 14, 2012, 10:34:46 am
I managed just over 300 on my cupra on stage 1 with no pre cat and itg intake?

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Title: Re: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: E30Dom on August 14, 2012, 10:38:00 am
I managed just over 300 on my cupra on stage 1 with no pre cat and itg intake?

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A) was that on JKM (tight) rollers?
B) Was that an edition 30? - Does the cupra not use the larger s3 intercooler?
Title: Re: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: mdmay on August 14, 2012, 10:51:55 am
on a standard run at JKM (same day as you) it made 272 standard should be 240  the intercooler on the cupra is the same as the ed30 I have an airtec waiting to go too. sitting in my shed at the moment

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Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: E30Dom on August 14, 2012, 10:59:22 am
Thats not bad for standard...

Just read you had precat removed and ITG filter... My stage 1 was just map, no other mods.

I do find it strange, and would lobe to know why, stage 1,2,2+ always achieve more on Cupra/S3's than they do on E30's... Why is this?
Title: Re: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: mdmay on August 14, 2012, 11:40:58 am
what block is the ed 30 the cupra (not r) is a bwj block?

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Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Little_Dave on August 14, 2012, 12:28:35 pm
I done hours of research on this topic.

In the end I went for superchips. 

Goggle is your friend!!

There's a swimming joke in there somewhere  :innocent:
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on August 14, 2012, 01:58:32 pm
ignor me was having a bad day, that and the fact i have had problems with superchips on my last platform with the maps closing the trottle to 30% if the boost crept above 21psi :stupid:
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: maxload on August 14, 2012, 02:09:27 pm
I can definatly vouch for steves bluefin. He has taken me for a drive in his car and although the bluefin may not be as aggresive as revo the full on power is very much there. As was said aggresive isnt allways the way to go as i feel my revo map can be dificult to manage sometimes as in wheel hop ect...
Bluefin is a map i would consider for sure...
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: Poverty on August 15, 2012, 01:25:27 am
if you intend to go stage 2 plus, bluefin is cheaper than APR  by 50 pounds, however its not switchable like the APR map. Revo is the most expensive, the switchable option is there also, but it costs extra.

Theres a few people over on SCN who have tried all 3!
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: AndrewJB on August 15, 2012, 02:16:36 am
APR for me

Upgrades from Stage1 to Stage2 and Stage2+ are FREEEEEEEEEE (if done at HQ, Dealers such as Awesome might charge a labour fee)

I will soon be doing the jump from Stage1 to Stage2
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: omar2222 on August 15, 2012, 02:54:30 am
Wow there's a lot of debate about this.. What are the shark performance maps like in comparison to bluein?
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: R-tech-Nick on August 15, 2012, 09:21:21 pm
You could go out of the box and go for a map custom setup to how you want it... :wink:

Nick
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: AndrewJB on August 15, 2012, 09:39:05 pm
Wow there's a lot of debate about this.. What are the shark performance maps like in comparison to bluein?

Shark are good

They did my tuning on my Leon PD170, Spent hours tweaking it on the RR
Title: Re: Edition 30 remap advice required
Post by: heavyd on August 15, 2012, 11:17:07 pm
I had superchips, revo, PDtuning and shark on my Edition 30. I havent tried the stage 2+ PDT map, but had 1,2 and 2+ of all the others
Went back to Revo in the end :popcornsoda: