MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: jedi-knight83 on August 18, 2012, 09:14:40 am
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So as some know, I'm in the middle of an ICE install and I want to put the sub in a tidy custom enclosure. I've had quotes from £180-£250 for this but there are't exactly what I had in mind for design.
Then I came across this which holds a 10" sub
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.srqcustoms.com%2FImages%2FMKV%2FMKV_32.JPG&hash=abf4077551ce025f8bcbe3bd32df894f2771acfd)
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Its 0.66cu.ft internal which is 18.68l
The ways its shaped as well would still allow access to the spare tyre etc.
So how many (IF ANY) might be intersted this this?
List price is $250 / £165 and shipping for one is $50 / £33.
This is only the start of an idea at the moment although I have emailed them asking if they would consider it.
List of names below please if your interested.
HOW TO ADD A SUB
Just briefly on how to even add a sub as some seemed to be asking...
If you have an aftermarket head unit, 9 times out of 10 you will have pre out, low level outputs. These can be plugged straight into an amp of your choosing.
If you have an OEM VW head unit you will need either...
1. A line out converter (LOC).. This is a device that takes your amplified speaker outputs and turns them into low level pre outs that an amplifier can accept. They range from £15 on ebay to £150+.
Personally I've chosen to use a more expensive one that gives a good strong signal and that also gives a separate channel for a sub that can be controlled via a remote dial which can be hidden under the dash.
This is a cheap one
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/9631.html
This is the one i've chosen and fitted under my drivers seat.
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/3867.html
With this remote dial.
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/3868.html
If your only looking to run a sub and keep the cabin speakers oem and running from the head unit it you could look at the Audiocontrol LC2i which has less channels and is cheaper.
You will now have up to 3 pre out low level feeds so you could if you wanted run front and rear cabin speakers amplified and a sub amp.
2. The other option and probably easier is to get an amplifier that accepts a high level input straight from the head unit. I'm not going to go into a long list of possible amps but I know blaupunt did one and I know my JL HD600/4 also does this.
In this senario you would need to make up your own RCA cables from the speaker wires..(or you can probably buy them pre wired and just attach the speaker outputs to them.
Make sure 100% your amp accepts high level inputs though as if you plug hugh level inputs into an amp that ONLY takes low level... at best it will sound rubbish and at worst you will blow something.
Whichever of the above options you take.. once you are at the point that you have an amplified signal you then just need to run speaker wire to the boot for the sub speaker (if your also amping the front speakers then run wire into the doors or if your cheating run it back to behind the HU and splice back into the OEM loom.)
Hope that helps a bit for those who dont know..
Thanks
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Bugger I'd have been on this if there was one for the 8P, but even if there was North America don't get the 3dr and the boot trims are different...
Good luck
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Maybe.... :popcornsoda:
Have you connected an amp to the RNS510 and upgraded the speakers yet mate?
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I could be tempted too
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Maybe.... :popcornsoda:
Have you connected an amp to the RNS510 and upgraded the speakers yet mate?
in the process.. car is in bits at the moment and still trying to work out how to get some bits of trim off :fighting:
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Be interested to see what yours sounds like with the setup that you will have - std headunit with amp and upgraded speakers.
Then i'd take the sub.
What have you done for the amp - line out converters or something else?
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Be interested to see what yours sounds like with the setup that you will have - std headunit with amp and upgraded speakers.
Then i'd take the sub.
What have you done for the amp - line out converters or something else?
I've got audiocontrol's LC2i with remote bass controller.
The LC2i gives a good strong clean pre out signal (much better than the cheap crappy inline ones)
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Oh.. price looking at £150 shipped to the UK (plus any import taxes)
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I'd be interested.
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How easy is it to connect an amp to a standard head unit, I only know how to do it off an aftermarket with the proper output plugs.
If we could get a definate price and If its easy enough I would be interested.
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Apologies for hijacking your thread, but I see people asking the same questions.
Hey guys, if it helps, I am putting together a package for the Golf GTi / R32 to upgrade the factory speakers with amp and Audiocontrol (others available) line out converter unit. Give me a few days and I will have details and pricing. This would then allow you to wire up the sub too. I will be getting in touch with the mods for a GB on this too. The sub box would make life a lot easier to install the sub then.
I will be doing this to my Jetta over the next week, but going to forgo the sub for now.
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Apologies for hijacking your thread, but I see people asking the same questions.
Hey guys, if it helps, I am putting together a package for the Golf GTi / R32 to upgrade the factory speakers with amp and Audiocontrol (others available) line out converter unit. Give me a few days and I will have details and pricing. This would then allow you to wire up the sub too. I will be getting in touch with the mods for a GB on this too. The sub box would make life a lot easier to install the sub then.
I will be doing this to my Jetta over the next week, but going to forgo the sub for now.
im interested to hear more about this mate defiantly!!
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Apologies for hijacking your thread, but I see people asking the same questions.
Hey guys, if it helps, I am putting together a package for the Golf GTi / R32 to upgrade the factory speakers with amp and Audiocontrol (others available) line out converter unit. Give me a few days and I will have details and pricing. This would then allow you to wire up the sub too. I will be getting in touch with the mods for a GB on this too. The sub box would make life a lot easier to install the sub then.
I will be doing this to my Jetta over the next week, but going to forgo the sub for now.
No worry
I have the Audiocontrol LC2i and also a space LC6i. Great bits of kit and after lots of hunting and research these were the best option for keeping the factory headunit and volume and sound settings while getting a good pre out (gives up to 9v pre out)
Then im running a compact (but very powerful) D class amp under my passenger seat (JL HD600/4)
Back to the sub box. Good interest so I'll try to confirm lead times etc.
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Be interested to see what yours sounds like with the setup that you will have - std headunit with amp and upgraded speakers.
Then i'd take the sub.
What have you done for the amp - line out converters or something else?
I've got audiocontrol's LC2i with remote bass controller.
The LC2i gives a good strong clean pre out signal (much better than the cheap crappy inline ones)
Thanks for the info, i was looking at a JL cleansweep but rare and costly, so this might be the solution, when are you looking for an answer for the group buy?
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Be interested to see what yours sounds like with the setup that you will have - std headunit with amp and upgraded speakers.
Then i'd take the sub.
What have you done for the amp - line out converters or something else?
I've got audiocontrol's LC2i with remote bass controller.
The LC2i gives a good strong clean pre out signal (much better than the cheap crappy inline ones)
Thanks for the info, i was looking at a JL cleansweep but rare and costly, so this might be the solution, when are you looking for an answer for the group buy?
Soon as posible.
I should be getting answers to a few more of my questions today along with how long they will take to ship from the order being placed etc so would be good to then not have to wait weeks and weeks to get 10 people.
so far.... (please copy and paste and add your name from this point..)
fernando010 - r32oc
n692000 - r32oc
joedarka - mk5golfgti
reded30 - mk5golfgti
dan.b - mk5golfgti
nathangallo - mk5golfgti
dandav1985 - talkaudio
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Ive added some blurb in the first post about adding an amp and sub.
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fernando010 - r32oc
n692000 - r32oc
joedarka - mk5golfgti
reded30 - mk5golfgti
dan.b - mk5golfgti
nathangallo - mk5golfgti
dandav1985 - talkaudio
Wilmott1980 - mk5golfgti
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ok this is definitely going ahead now.
will set up a proper group buy thread tomorrow with full details and paypal link etc.
any more interest?
and can those with their name on the list confirm a def yes or no?
Thanks
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Group buy thread
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,52512.0.html
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There's no way I can afford this for a while now mate. :sad1:
My debit cards have almost melted from over use since June.
Got to let em cool down for a bit :ashamed:
....any dates/deadlines on the GB?
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Apologies for hijacking your thread, but I see people asking the same questions.
Hey guys, if it helps, I am putting together a package for the Golf GTi / R32 to upgrade the factory speakers with amp and Audiocontrol (others available) line out converter unit. Give me a few days and I will have details and pricing. This would then allow you to wire up the sub too. I will be getting in touch with the mods for a GB on this too. The sub box would make life a lot easier to install the sub then.
I will be doing this to my Jetta over the next week, but going to forgo the sub for now.
Keep me informed on this please....
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There's no way I can afford this for a while now mate. :sad1:
My debit cards have almost melted from over use since June.
Got to let em cool down for a bit :ashamed:
....any dates/deadlines on the GB?
Not yet but want to get it moving as quick as possible for the first batch of 5 so he can start making and people that have paid now can get delivery asap.
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Just an update for this for those who were asking about the pre out.
I finally managed to test the system properly today after a few issues which turned out to be a blown hertz bass speaker. For the test I used a couple of other 6.5 drivers which arent as good as the HV165L but I just protected them by upping the high pass freq level. Replacements are on route and I'll then be able to run a HPF between 60 - 70Hz
Note to others... dont try giving your new speakers over 150w of full range frequency :) :fighting:
Anyway... I also borrowed a cheap 10" sub enclosure until the custom one arrives.
The result... amazing!!
The bass is now really punchy and crisp. Previously I was just running all OEM cabin speakers and an Infinity basslink active sub that was tapped off the rear channels. It sounded good but this is leagues ahead.
My friend has a £4k system in his golf and this sounds nearly as good as that (he is running multiple amps and rainbow speakers etc)
For about £800 with bits off ebay im dead chuffed
Im currently running it from the Audiocontrol LC2i which is a 2ch-in 4ch-out hi-low converter. This also has their 'bass roll off' compensation circuit but TBH im not sure the RCD510 actually rolls the bass off so i've got this turned off at the moment. I'll test more with proper instruments when its all 100% installed with the replacement speakers and proper sub enclosure.
I did try it with my LC6i aswell and it sounded just as good. This doesnt have the bass compensation but like I say, im not sure this is even needed now so I'm not missing anything and I only need 2 channels anyway so the LC6i is for sale for definite.
The Audiocontrol LOCs can give up to 9.5v pre out but i found this a bit too much actually so have them turned down a bit to give a 4v pre out (checked with multimeter). This is the usual pre out voltage of decent aftermarket headunits anyway and you can then use the gain / input sensitivity on the amps to fine tune the levels.
I actually need to reinstall the autoleads one that i have laying around aswell and test the voltage output and sound from that.
In terms of installation... if your just adding a sub but keeping the cabin speakers running from the headunit you need to tap into the rear speaker output from the back of the headunit (but obviously dont cut it completely as then you will have no rear speaker output). Then run this feed to the LOC (line out converter) of your choice and then run the pre out to the amp of your choice and in turn to the sub. This way you then have a bit of sub control by fading your headunit forwards and backwards.
If your upgrading the front speakers and running them off a new amp then cut the front speaker output from the back of the OEM headunit and run these to the LOC. If your using the LC2i or LC6i this will then give you a pre out for the front speakers AND a pre out for the sub. You will then need either 1x4ch amp or 2x2ch amps or 1x2ch and 1xmono amps so you can amplify the fronts and the sub.
Hope that helps people.
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this sounds good - is anyone going to be offering to do a full install.
im after something that would just work just with the standard head unit :)
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this sounds good - is anyone going to be offering to do a full install.
im after something that would just work just with the standard head unit :)
If you didnt want to install yourself you'd need to get a car audio place to do it for you.
Its all pretty simple though with the parts ive listed above.
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Whereabouts are you Vik?