MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 21, 2012, 10:21:32 am
HELP !

Just had the oil pump go on my MK5 GTi, and I think the engine has had it  :sad1:

It was a AXX code engine, and I am now looking for a replcement engine.
Will the BWA code engine drop in with no problems ?

Anyone know of an engine on sale ?

Thanks for you time

AndyS.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: sub39h on August 21, 2012, 10:23:29 am
there's a BWA for sale on Edition 38 without the intercooler. 55k miles. the seller wants £2k ono for it because it's got all the other ancillaries (turbo etc.) still attached. you can always sell on your old parts too, fuel pump etc. to recoup some of the value

i don't suppose the "swannies" bit of the email address on your profile indicates that you're from Swansea? the seller is located in Cardiff.

i've PM'ed you the seller's number.

Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 21, 2012, 10:25:25 am
there's a BWA for sale on Edition 38 without the intercooler. 55k miles

i've PM'ed you the seller's number.



Thanks mate , will the BWA fit ok without any mods ?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: sub39h on August 21, 2012, 10:28:12 am
mechanically it should do i believe, but with it being a new engine to your car there will be a bit of a mess about with the immobiliser (which would still be the case if you went for an AXX). you need to make sure that you get someone who knows what he's doing to fit it
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: gazon69 on August 21, 2012, 11:38:47 am
there's a BWA for sale on Edition 38 without the intercooler. 55k miles. the seller wants £2k ono for it because it's got all the other ancillaries (turbo etc.) still attached. you can always sell on your old parts too, fuel pump etc. to recoup some of the value

i don't suppose the "swannies" bit of the email address on your profile indicates that you're from Swansea? the seller is located in Cardiff.

i've PM'ed you the seller's number.


2k :scared: you could prob pick an ed30 lump up for that.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: martziniuk on August 21, 2012, 12:39:14 pm
 It should slot in without any immobiliser issues AFAIK, there are just sensors to connect up.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: benjii on August 21, 2012, 05:43:50 pm
HELP !

Just had the oil pump go on my MK5 GTi, and I think the engine has had it  :sad1:

It was a AXX code engine, and I am now looking for a replcement engine.
Will the BWA code engine drop in with no problems ?

Anyone know of an engine on sale ?

Thanks for you time

AndyS.

Had exactly the same as you happen a few weeks ago it's a blady bitch. Just for info where you driving when it happened and did vibrate a lot
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: TrickGTI on August 21, 2012, 06:10:57 pm
What happened? Did the oil can light come on ( oil pressure symbol ) and it was turned off or was it driven till it stopped?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: alackofspeed on August 21, 2012, 06:24:22 pm
HELP !

Just had the oil pump go on my MK5 GTi, and I think the engine has had it  :sad1:

It was a AXX code engine, and I am now looking for a replcement engine.
Will the BWA code engine drop in with no problems ?

Anyone know of an engine on sale ?

Thanks for you time

AndyS.

The AXX and BWA have different compression ratios , I believe. There may be other subtle differences, inc different engine mapping.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: benjii on August 21, 2012, 06:33:41 pm
What happened? Did the oil can light come on ( oil pressure symbol ) and it was turned off or was it driven till it stopped?
Don't no if that was at me but mine I pulled on to the dual carriage way gave a lil gas then the car just click and started shaking and a noise like rubber vibrating. no lights on the dash car was still boosting so I thought must be an engine mount gone so drove it straight to my friends garage which I wish I didn't now :fighting: who took it out to see what the problem was and the oil light came on as he took it out and switch the car straight off so it got towed home. Then my warranty people have had it since I'm not 100% but I think they said the cam shaft was blue so signs of overheating, the oil pump was destroyed, bearing gone, crank needed regrinding
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:11:59 pm
Why are these oil pumps failing? Is it 'another' common fault? Has the original part been superceeded? How much is a new one if the part has a new rev code?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: benjii on August 21, 2012, 07:27:43 pm
Why are these oil pumps failing? Is it 'another' common fault? Has the original part been superceeded? How much is a new one if the part has a new rev code?


I phoned up vw and they said a few have gone but as I'm out of vw warrenty they were only MAYBE gonna to give me a good will but I have to pay for inspection, a flatbed to get the car there and to pay for the strip down of the engine. I told them its not right for a 2007 with 49,000 fully serviced to go like that just lucky I got warrenty else where they wanted 4k fitted just for the block  :sick:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: TrickGTI on August 21, 2012, 07:30:24 pm
Why are these oil pumps failing? Is it 'another' common fault? Has the original part been superceeded? How much is a new one if the part has a new rev code?


I phoned up vw and they said a few have gone but as I'm out of vw warrenty they were only MAYBE gonna to give me a good will but I have to pay for inspection, a flatbed to get the car there and to pay for the strip down of the engine. I told them its not right for a 2007 with 49,000 fully serviced to go like that just lucky I got warrenty else where they wanted 4k fitted just for the block  :sick:

They should 100% percent give you some good will for yours! Thats not good! get in touch with VW UK if they refuse to help as at 49000 she's barely stretched her legs!

Unless you have remaped the car of coarse then they wont haha
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: martziniuk on August 21, 2012, 08:07:52 pm
Out of interest how often was the oil changed?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 21, 2012, 09:25:09 pm
What happened? Did the oil can light come on ( oil pressure symbol ) and it was turned off or was it driven till it stopped?

I was driving at slow speed on a main road when the engine started making a strange noise, I slowed down and the oil pressure light came on. I put the car in neutral and rolled to a place I could stop and the engine stopped

At the garage being examined, the car was an 05 plate with only 51k miles on the clock

Don't think VW will be helping me with this !
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Statller-Stevo on August 21, 2012, 09:35:41 pm
What happened? Did the oil can light come on ( oil pressure symbol ) and it was turned off or was it driven till it stopped?

I was driving at slow speed on a main road when the engine started making a strange noise, I slowed down and the oil pressure light came on. I put the car in neutral and rolled to a place I could stop and the engine stopped

At the garage being examined, the car was an 05 plate with only 51k miles on the clock

Don't think VW will be helping me with this !

Andy a 2007 - 2008 BWA K04 motor will slot straight in the ecu will run it ok but it will be all wrong on the mapping side
You would need a K03 to K04 map loading on etc
The injector loom is different on a real early AXX car so you would have to use your old injector loom, it separates from the main engine loom
I have K03 motors in stock if your interested in just a normal engine fitting back in etc
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: martziniuk on August 21, 2012, 10:59:39 pm
What happened? Did the oil can light come on ( oil pressure symbol ) and it was turned off or was it driven till it stopped?

I was driving at slow speed on a main road when the engine started making a strange noise, I slowed down and the oil pressure light came on. I put the car in neutral and rolled to a place I could stop and the engine stopped

At the garage being examined, the car was an 05 plate with only 51k miles on the clock

Don't think VW will be helping me with this !

Andy a 2007 - 2008 BWA K04 motor will slot straight in the ecu will run it ok but it will be all wrong on the mapping side
You would need a K03 to K04 map loading on etc
The injector loom is different on a real early AXX car so you would have to use your old injector loom, it separates from the main engine loom
I have K03 motors in stock if your interested in just a normal engine fitting back in etc
Am I misreading this? I thought he wanted a BWA engine which has a K03 from the factory.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Statller-Stevo on August 21, 2012, 11:22:30 pm
What happened? Did the oil can light come on ( oil pressure symbol ) and it was turned off or was it driven till it stopped?

I was driving at slow speed on a main road when the engine started making a strange noise, I slowed down and the oil pressure light came on. I put the car in neutral and rolled to a place I could stop and the engine stopped

At the garage being examined, the car was an 05 plate with only 51k miles on the clock

Don't think VW will be helping me with this !

Andy a 2007 - 2008 BWA K04 motor will slot straight in the ecu will run it ok but it will be all wrong on the mapping side
You would need a K03 to K04 map loading on etc
The injector loom is different on a real early AXX car so you would have to use your old injector loom, it separates from the main engine loom
I have K03 motors in stock if your interested in just a normal engine fitting back in etc
Am I misreading this? I thought he wanted a BWA engine which has a K03 from the factory.

Oops Sorry didn't read right, I have AXX & BWA & BYD's in stock, been working on a BYD all week too  :scared:

All K03 motors will fit straight in and run ok, whichever code you use, no mapping needed, only K04's would need mapping to suite
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 22, 2012, 09:24:07 am
More info:- When I first got the car I noticed that on tickover it sounded like a diesel, so I have it looked at by VW. They said they all sound like that.

I am now thinking that perhapes my oil pump has been on its way out for a while now...

Andy S.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 22, 2012, 11:52:54 am
Just heard from garage engine is gone  :sad1:

Just had a great quote from Statller-Stevo, just need to try and arrange transport of car rom Milton keynes to Sheffield, any reccommendations ?

Andy S.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: gigolo456 on August 22, 2012, 11:54:19 am
Are you sticking with KO3 or going to KO4??  :driver:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 22, 2012, 11:59:00 am
Sticking with K03, even at my age I think the insurance would be stupid

Only good thing that has come out of this is that I will get my AXX engine replaced with the better BWA engine
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: gigolo456 on August 22, 2012, 12:00:30 pm
I've used Statlers a number of times, you wont go far wrong mate!! Might be pricey though getting from A to B, unless you tow it the whole way up!!??  :sad1:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 24, 2012, 09:33:07 am
Car being transported from MK to Statller's today, missing my baby :scared:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: gigolo456 on August 24, 2012, 09:44:05 am
are you getting it fitted today then??
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 24, 2012, 09:47:04 am
Statller's are very busy , they can not work on the car for a week, but it can not stay at the garage in MK as they need the space
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: gigolo456 on August 24, 2012, 09:55:52 am
ahh, ok, well it's in safe hands as many have said!! What are the benefits btw of this BWA engine?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 24, 2012, 11:00:08 am
What are the benefits btw of this BWA engine?

Can anyone answer this question as I would like to know aswell  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on August 24, 2012, 01:36:36 pm
Car just landed in Sheffield, now for the long wait  :indifferent:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Jkingti on January 15, 2015, 09:38:13 pm
My axx engine has gave up oil pump failure im getting a bwa engine just wondering if anyone could give me some on info on wether this will work or know of any changes
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: AndyS on January 15, 2015, 10:51:04 pm
my engine (BWA) was a direct replacement and needed no extra items
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Jkingti on January 15, 2015, 11:11:49 pm
Did you have to take anything off your axx engine to suit or was everything the same? How about the crank sensor did u change that? Thanks very much andy
My axx engine has gave up oil pump failure im getting a bwa engine just wondering if anyone could give me some on info on wether this will work or know of any changes
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: fab5freddy on January 16, 2015, 07:09:10 am
my engine (BWA) was a direct replacement and needed no extra items

He already answered your question. It's a direct a swap, no need to change anything
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Jkingti on January 16, 2015, 09:13:41 am
Cheers thanks a lot getting the engine today so I'll be fitting it tomorro thanks mate
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Jkingti on January 16, 2015, 07:45:26 pm
Happy days breakers got a mk5 with axx engine in today its a 2004 mk5 gti never seen one below 2005 are these unusual? got engine and turbo for 750 euro not bad
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: fab5freddy on January 17, 2015, 07:11:14 am
Happy days breakers got a mk5 with axx engine in today its a 2004 mk5 gti never seen one below 2005 are these unusual? got engine and turbo for 750 euro not bad

Thought you already had a BWA lined up? Don't worry about trying to match the engine code, I would be looking for a good lower mileage replacement.

I assume the 2004 AXX will be higher mileage?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Jkingti on January 17, 2015, 07:29:51 pm
Cars a 2005 made a mistake sorry. the car has 89,000 miles on it so not too bad
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: fab5freddy on January 17, 2015, 07:39:59 pm
Yeah, will depend on how it's been treated, any service history with it?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI Engine Replacement
Post by: Jkingti on January 17, 2015, 07:49:48 pm
Not sure to be honest it's through a friend the lad I got from is standing over it. It came in as an insurance write off crashed at the Back