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Title: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 08:29:31 pm
I currently have a 5 door gti and the wife has a 5 door 1 series. I've been looking at the mk 6 gti's and they seem expensive when compared to a similar age rocco. My issue is the fact I have a 2 yr old daughter and another due in november. What are people's thought that have a rocco or do I just wait for the right gti?  I know it's subjective but any advice or opinions would be greatly received

Andy
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 22, 2012, 08:31:34 pm
Yeah as long as you don't need any more than 4 seats
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 08:33:08 pm
What about boot space for prams and access getting kids and car seats in the back?
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Top Cat on August 22, 2012, 08:34:44 pm
It's not going lot be easy getting in to the back to strap them in, each time, it is hard enough just getting one in. My misses had a 3 door, for the first year and it was a struggle to be honest. I would say just wait for the right car.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: RedRobin on August 22, 2012, 08:38:10 pm
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I'm not convinced that a Rocco can be a practical family car. Very restricted head height in the back seats obviously isn't a problem for young kids but then any 2/3-door car is going to be a hassle physically leaning in and out while accessing the back seats - You know how heavy a sleeping child is! And they get heavier by the day as they continue growing. Because of bodyshape the boot isn't very big either.

A 5-door GTI is a far more practical family car IMO.

EDIT: Yes, exactly as TC and Nads have posted while I was writing my post.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: tony_danza on August 22, 2012, 08:41:43 pm
I struggle to get everything in an A6 avant with just one of the little tykes. Don't make life hard for yourself.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 08:44:53 pm
Thought as much. Problem is there doesn't seem to be that many golfs about matching my 'wish list' which is
Black - I know some people hate black but I love em
5 door
Manual
18" monza shadows
Would like the following but not a deal breaker
Leather - easier to remove sticky sweets
Bluetooth - not essential as can be retro fit
Sat nav - as above

Andy
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 08:46:05 pm
I struggle to get everything in an A6 avant with just one of the little tykes. Don't make life hard for yourself.

Know what you mean it sometimes takes less time to back for a holiday abroad!!

Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: RedRobin on August 22, 2012, 08:53:29 pm

I struggle to get everything in an A6 avant with just one of the little tykes.


....But, depending on the journey (abroad for example), isn't that because mothers typically (particularly first time mothers who follow the text books) tend to greatly overdo what's needed? Generally, most females don't understand how to travel light.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 08:59:16 pm

I struggle to get everything in an A6 avant with just one of the little tykes.


....But, depending on the journey (abroad for example), isn't that because mothers typically (particularly first time mothers who follow the text books) tend to greatly overdo what's needed? Generally, most females don't understand how to travel light.

Never a truer word spoken but you dare tell a women that!!
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Wild Bean on August 22, 2012, 09:00:47 pm
I would wait for the right GTi to come along if I were you, im a ex Roc R owner and have to say it would be totally impractical as a family car, the restricted head room for getting the little ones in the back would drive you nuts in no time.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: tony_danza on August 22, 2012, 09:01:11 pm
Nah, she's cool, no 'everything but the kitchen sink' girl. It was more the early days when the buggy had a carry cot attachment. I can't imagine having to deal with all the stuff and another child in a small car. As they get older, it's much easier to cope.

It is great being able to load up the back with a big buggy, the usual stuff that goes along with it and still chuck a week's shopping in the boot. It'll certainly make the regular trips to the house in the South of France a lot easier, the thing is cavernous.... a 5 door GTI may be faster, but this means more room for booze on the return leg!!
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: wigit on August 22, 2012, 09:11:57 pm
i would never have had the rocco if we didn't get the Pirelli more door at the same time, biggest pain in the ar$e from a practicality point of view was its tapered ar$e as the boot aperture is small and sill really high and access to the rear (useless for both our parents), wait for the right GTI  :happy2:
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: rich83 on August 22, 2012, 09:15:34 pm
The rocco is tiny in the back... it wouldnt be comfortable for 4 adults, or 2 adults and 2 teenagers...
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 09:15:45 pm
Sounds like I've got to wait for the right golf but like every of bloke I'm crap at waiting and like a dog with a bone when I get an idea in my head. Only been looking about a week and her in doors is already sick of hearing about it!
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Saintsteve on August 22, 2012, 09:21:27 pm
Simple answer.... no  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 09:23:47 pm
Simple answer.... no  :signLOL:

Don't sit on the fence   :signLOL:
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Squeeguk on August 22, 2012, 09:24:24 pm
How about a 2.0 TFSi Jetta? Loads of boot space for all the kids paraphernalia and 4 doors, along with all the joy of driving a GTi? I have one and love the huge boot, comes in very very handy. I know the general UK public don't like sedans, but as a family car, you can't go far wrong, plus the added security of being a four door where you can lock the boot out.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 22, 2012, 09:29:30 pm
How about a 2.0 TFSi Jetta? Loads of boot space for all the kids paraphernalia and 4 doors, along with all the joy of driving a GTi? I have one and love the huge boot, comes in very very handy. I know the general UK public don't like sedans, but as a family car, you can't go far wrong, plus the added security of being a four door where you can lock the boot out.

Please don't take this the wrong way but they're not for me. I much prefer the golf shape. I even thought about an A3 but still come back to the golf. There's my ideal one at Crewe but I'm in the north east so it's quite a treck. Might have to give them a call to see what kind of deal can be done over the phone. If nothing else at least I could rule it out as I keep getting drawn back to it
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: chungster on August 22, 2012, 09:32:50 pm
The rocco is tiny in the back... it wouldnt be comfortable for 4 adults, or 2 adults and 2 teenagers...

Can get 2 adults in the back...plenty of leg room (well with front seats down and pushed forward anyway  :wink: )
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: rich83 on August 22, 2012, 09:36:38 pm
6ft adults Lee???   :wink:
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Tortaruga on August 22, 2012, 09:38:44 pm
Absolutely not.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 22, 2012, 09:41:47 pm
5 door golfs are just so perfect as a family car I have thrown just about everything at mine and it just gets on with it no drama
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: RedRobin on August 22, 2012, 10:11:36 pm
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That's it - The 5-dr Golf is such a perfect allrounder. But I can see how tony_d needs something bigger for regular South of France jaunts.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: tony_danza on August 22, 2012, 10:34:25 pm
It was more a case of I could get a lot more A6 than Golf/A3 for the money. Big cars are very well specced and cheap!
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: RedRobin on August 22, 2012, 10:38:36 pm
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RS6 Avant fully loaded Sportec autobahn blaster would be the ultimate 'family' car for long Euro trips.

APS had one for sale a couple of years ago - 75k miles and £30k and 190 mph motor. Was a beautiful subtle grey/green with putty coloured interior.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Squeeguk on August 22, 2012, 11:07:36 pm
How about a 2.0 TFSi Jetta? Loads of boot space for all the kids paraphernalia and 4 doors, along with all the joy of driving a GTi? I have one and love the huge boot, comes in very very handy. I know the general UK public don't like sedans, but as a family car, you can't go far wrong, plus the added security of being a four door where you can lock the boot out.

Please don't take this the wrong way but they're not for me. I much prefer the golf shape. I even thought about an A3 but still come back to the golf. There's my ideal one at Crewe but I'm in the north east so it's quite a treck. Might have to give them a call to see what kind of deal can be done over the phone. If nothing else at least I could rule it out as I keep getting drawn back to it

Not at all. I prefer sedans, but I do like the look of the GTi and the R32, but the A3 does not appeal at all. If I didn't need the boot, I would have been in one of those. There are loads of GTi's about, I am sure the right one will come up for you. Good luck with your hunt.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 22, 2012, 11:19:31 pm
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That's it - The 5-dr Golf is such a perfect allrounder. But I can see how tony_d needs something bigger for regular South of France jaunts.

No u don't I have just come back from south of France 5 people in the car with a boot full of stuff and that was 2 weeks non stop car full with 3 kids in the back
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: RedRobin on August 23, 2012, 12:23:35 am
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That's it - The 5-dr Golf is such a perfect allrounder. But I can see how tony_d needs something bigger for regular South of France jaunts.


No u don't I have just come back from south of France 5 people in the car with a boot full of stuff and that was 2 weeks non stop car full with 3 kids in the back


....You're not wrong, Mat. But I was only saying that I understood tony_d's preference. I've done 3 people and fully loaded including tent etc to Italy and without any compromises - I was surprised how well the GTI performs even when fully loaded. Back seats down and full up to the roof with my daughter's stuff to and from uni, a 4hr fast drive away and still the GTI takes it all in her stride. It's partly why mine is a keeper - Such a tough act to follow.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 23, 2012, 12:26:54 am
It's a big reason I have never sold mine it's one of the longest owned cars I have ever had and you know how bad I am  :signLOL: I love my car it's a big part of my family
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: sub39h on August 23, 2012, 02:00:29 am
1. find a local dealer that's running one as a demonstrator.
2. explain your situation and that you wanna try one for a couple of days.
3. see if it fits in with your lifestyle.

i suspect the above process will lead you to the conclusion that it isn't suitable, but people you've never met and have only spoken to over the internet are not going to be able to make a meaningful assessment of your own personal circumstances. on that basis i'd try it for yourself and see.

when i was growing up, my dad had a W126 500SEC and my mum a R107 300SL. the 300SL was the school run car until i was about 13! granted that was in a different era (my parents didn't use child seats for example) but my ultimate point is that you won't know unless you try it.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: berg on August 23, 2012, 09:05:31 am
i would say no, get an s3 sportback or 5dr mk 6 gti.

it will be ok for a bit but when they get heavier will be a pain plus more likely to damage the bodywork of the car getting them in and out.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: stu_no_1 on August 23, 2012, 09:28:08 am
Get a 5 door gti or get a passat r36 properly rare practical and the noise omg lol
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: berg on August 23, 2012, 11:36:14 am
Get a 5 door gti or get a passat r36 properly rare practical and the noise omg lol


had a passat r36 up my behind on the m1 other week.  about 285bhp are they? as when car in front moved over i floored it and left it for dead until it caught up and i was not willing to go any faster than the spped at which i was already travelling i moved over into the middle lane to let it pass
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: sub39h on August 23, 2012, 11:56:06 am
300bhp and heavier. a Stage 2+ Eddy would always leave one standing from a rollling start
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on August 23, 2012, 12:28:43 pm
How about a 2.0 TFSi Jetta? Loads of boot space for all the kids paraphernalia and 4 doors, along with all the joy of driving a GTi? I have one and love the huge boot, comes in very very handy. I know the general UK public don't like sedans, but as a family car, you can't go far wrong, plus the added security of being a four door where you can lock the boot out.

Please don't take this the wrong way but they're not for me. I much prefer the golf shape. I even thought about an A3 but still come back to the golf. There's my ideal one at Crewe but I'm in the north east so it's quite a treck. Might have to give them a call to see what kind of deal can be done over the phone. If nothing else at least I could rule it out as I keep getting drawn back to it

Don't let the distance put you off to find the car you want. I'm in Crewe and travelled to York to get my GTI  :smiley:
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: ianv5 on August 23, 2012, 12:47:03 pm
Get a 5 door gti or get a passat r36 properly rare practical and the noise omg lol


had a passat r36 up my behind on the m1 other week.  about 285bhp are they? as when car in front moved over i floored it and left it for dead until it caught up and i was not willing to go any faster than the spped at which i was already travelling i moved over into the middle lane to let it pass

Drove one when they first came out, lovely car, rare and only Passat I would buy if I could find one!
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: RedRobin on August 23, 2012, 12:56:09 pm
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Only slightly off-topic but certainly related: Don't you hate those family cars where the parents have attached a large "BABY ON BOARD" sign in the window? Surely we should all drive with the same due care and attention whoever our passengers are or if driving alone?

When my son was a baby, I had a 2-door BMW coupe, my daughter was 4yo and we all fitted into the car without any problems - Even my ex wife who wasn't one of those rare females who can travel light. However, after my divorce proceedings had eventually ended (a waste of money and 2 years) and I was going to buy a 3-dr Mk5 GTI, it was my then 14yo daughter who urged me to go for the 5-dr. But I think that was for the convenience of my duty as 'Dad-the-Taxi' to her and her friends.

@ the OP: You already have a Mk5 GTI 5-dr - Why change it?
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: nads1_uk on August 23, 2012, 03:45:52 pm
Good question RR. I change my cars quite regular. Ive had this one 4 years now fancied a bit of a change I'm in no hurry as I cannot fault it. I was just looking a couple of weeks ago and got to thinking about a change. Like I say if it's not the 'ideal' car then the mk5 will be staying
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: Tortaruga on August 23, 2012, 10:37:32 pm
Don't you hate those family cars where the parents have attached a large "BABY ON BOARD" sign in the window?

I used to abhor those as well. Then I read somewhere that they're useful for the emergency services in the event of an accident. Lets the crews know to be careful if cutting the car open that an infant/child may be in the car.
Title: Re: Can a rocco be a family car
Post by: mad_pete on August 24, 2012, 12:06:49 am
On topic - get 5 doors. It's just not worth the hassle

Off topic - In theory it highlights to emergency services someone on board is a) small and b) may not be able to get out of their seat on their own.    Also it warns you the driver in front may be randommly subjected to loud noises, flying cuddly toys and demands for chocolate and you should navigate round said vehicle with due care and attention.