MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: TagnuT on August 25, 2012, 06:38:43 pm
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Talk about poor wet weather handling and rear wheel drive:-
Imagine seeing that sail past your side window :jumping:
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He wont be driving that fast again in the wet.
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He would be driving that fast again in the wet.n
I wouldn't have expected anything else from you pal! Ha
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Looks like someone might have fallen out at around 45-55 seconds.
Fish
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He would be driving that fast again in the wet.n
I wouldn't have expected anything else from you pal! Ha
Well if he'd of wiped out the guy with the camera or any other person, the he would be a real hero..
sorry, people that want to drive too fast in the wet get what they fully deserve. :fighting:
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I may be wrong, but what the hell was the camera car doing hogging the fast lane?
Doesn't make the M3 driver right for undertaking (which I think may actually be legal in some countries) and driving too quick.
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I may be wrong, but what the hell was the camera car doing hogging the fast lane?
Doesn't make the M3 driver right for undertaking (which I think may actually be legal in some countries) and driving too quick.
re lane hogging.......No different to what happens over here in england really on a daily basis!!!
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Yep lane hoggers p1ss me off 60mph nothing in any other lane
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Near enough exactly the same happened to my wife in our 325i coupe. She wasn't speeding, just hit standing water and the rear lost all adhesion with the road!
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He wont be driving that fast again in the wet.
:confused: I hope you don't live in a glass house. :fighting2: You know absolutely nothing about this incident so how can you judge so harshly. :booty:
I may be wrong, but what the hell was the camera car doing hogging the fast lane?
Doesn't make the M3 driver right for undertaking (which I think may actually be legal in some countries) and driving too quick.
re lane hogging.......No different to what happens over here in england really on a daily basis!!!
Ah!, lane hoggers, becoming more and more prevelant. :fighting: I often wonder why these people do it. Apart from the woman a bit scared to travel with the lorries i think most of them are bitter people who think they own part of the road because they pay road tax or perhaps they struggle to hide the green monster when they see cars go past that they clearly can't afford. I think we can all see the lane hogger in this thread. :wink:
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It's a bit of that, but I seriously think a lot of people just don't realise they're in the wrong.
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He wont be driving that fast again in the wet.
:confused: I hope you don't live in a glass house. :fighting2: You know absolutely nothing about this incident so how can you judge so harshly. :booty:
I may be wrong, but what the hell was the camera car doing hogging the fast lane?
Doesn't make the M3 driver right for undertaking (which I think may actually be legal in some countries) and driving too quick.
re lane hogging.......No different to what happens over here in england really on a daily basis!!!
Ah!, lane hoggers, becoming more and more prevelant. :fighting: I often wonder why these people do it. Apart from the woman a bit scared to travel with the lorries i think most of them are bitter people who think they own part of the road because they pay road tax or perhaps they struggle to hide the green monster when they see cars go past that they clearly can't afford. I think we can all see the lane hogger in this thread. :wink:
And nor do you, so let's leave it like that.. :confused:
Driving too fast for the conditions regardless if the car with the camera was staying in the outside lane.
You don't just loose control of a rear wheel drive car unless you unlucky enough to suffer a puncture.
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It's pretty obvious the car aquaplaned. That doesn't necessarily mean he/she was driving too fast.
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It's pretty obvious the car aquaplaned. That doesn't necessarily mean he/she was driving too fast.
100%
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He wont be driving that fast again in the wet.
:confused: I hope you don't live in a glass house. :fighting2: You know absolutely nothing about this incident so how can you judge so harshly. :booty:
I may be wrong, but what the hell was the camera car doing hogging the fast lane?
Doesn't make the M3 driver right for undertaking (which I think may actually be legal in some countries) and driving too quick.
re lane hogging.......No different to what happens over here in england really on a daily basis!!!
Ah!, lane hoggers, becoming more and more prevelant. :fighting: I often wonder why these people do it. Apart from the woman a bit scared to travel with the lorries i think most of them are bitter people who think they own part of the road because they pay road tax or perhaps they struggle to hide the green monster when they see cars go past that they clearly can't afford. I think we can all see the lane hogger in this thread. :wink:
And nor do you, so let's leave it like that.. :confused:
Driving too fast for the conditions regardless if the car with the camera was staying in the outside lane.
You don't just loose control of a rear wheel drive car unless you unlucky enough to suffer a puncture.
I'm not the one hoping the occupants got what they deserved though am i. :sick:
You don't just loose control of a rear wheel drive car unless you unlucky enough to suffer a puncture.
Complete tosh as usual from you. Andrew above has just told you it happened to his wife. I myself coming back from a track day, was only saved by the traction control, and i was just in the flow of traffic. It can only take a moments lack of concentration at the wrong time.
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:congrats:
Awesome... Deserved it
He wont be driving that fast again in the wet.
:confused: I hope you don't live in a glass house. :fighting2: You know absolutely nothing about this incident so how can you judge so harshly. :booty:
I may be wrong, but what the hell was the camera car doing hogging the fast lane?
Doesn't make the M3 driver right for undertaking (which I think may actually be legal in some countries) and driving too quick.
re lane hogging.......No different to what happens over here in england really on a daily basis!!!
Ah!, lane hoggers, becoming more and more prevelant. :fighting: I often wonder why these people do it. Apart from the woman a bit scared to travel with the lorries i think most of them are bitter people who think they own part of the road because they pay road tax or perhaps they struggle to hide the green monster when they see cars go past that they clearly can't afford. I think we can all see the lane hogger in this thread. :wink:
And nor do you, so let's leave it like that.. :confused:
Driving too fast for the conditions regardless if the car with the camera was staying in the outside lane.
You don't just loose control of a rear wheel drive car unless you unlucky enough to suffer a puncture.
I'm not the one hoping the occupants got what they deserved though am i. :sick:
You don't just loose control of a rear wheel drive car unless you unlucky enough to suffer a puncture.
Complete tosh as usual from you. Andrew above has just told you it happened to his wife. I myself coming back from a track day, was only saved by the traction control, and i was just in the flow of traffic. It can only take a moments lack of concentration at the wrong time.
Ok.. Re watch the video and tell me that BMW isn't going nearly 90+ mph... The camera is doing what must be nearly 70mph approx
And I'll say again, who's the one that wouldn't of crashed if they were doing a safe speed.
Your reply is more reliable then my typical reply, now go play with your speak n spell :P
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Had it happen to me too, 255 rear tyres are great for getting power down, sh*te for standing water. M3s are even wider.
You can tell its aquaplaning by the way it 4 wheel drifts past.
And no way is it doing 90. 60 tops.
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Had it happen to me too, 255 rear tyres are great for getting power down, sh*te for standing water. M3s are even wider.
You can tell its aquaplaning by the way it 4 wheel drifts past.
And no way is it doing 90. 60 tops.
And to roll the car at that speed???.... It's faster then that Mr D.. Imo
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The concrete central reservation (and the angle it went in at) was pretty unforgiving thats for sure.
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I've seen a Capri roll doing around 20mph, you hit something right and physics takes over.
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For sure rwd and wet is crap, he obviously didn't deserve it but dude did put foot down you can hear it. BMW drivers eh!
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regardless of what peoples views on the driver and whether he got what he deservered, im just thankful there was a central reservation in place which did its job. Could have been alot worse..
I remember that video form the states where the pickup truck / people carrie (cant remember what it was) lost it in the snow and swerved into oncoming traffice and got wiped out by a big truck...
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Had it happen to me too, 255 rear tyres are great for getting power down, sh*te for standing water. M3s are even wider.
You can tell its aquaplaning by the way it 4 wheel drifts past.
And no way is it doing 90. 60 tops.
And to roll the car at that speed???.... It's faster then that Mr D.. Imo
Steve, your talking rubbish. From nearly four years of observation of your posts... For
Your to say "he got what he deserved" is absolutely typical from you. Not because of the speed he was travelling, not because of the conditions...
Just because he had a nicer car than yours you were bound to
Give him a diss. Wind your neck in... For you to say "he got was he deserves" infuriates me. That could have happened to your wife, then it would have been a different story. Give the guy a break. He was hardly drifting thru spaghetti junction!
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Had it happen to me too, 255 rear tyres are great for getting power down, sh*te for standing water. M3s are even wider.
You can tell its aquaplaning by the way it 4 wheel drifts past.
And no way is it doing 90. 60 tops.
And to roll the car at that speed???.... It's faster then that Mr D.. Imo
Steve, your talking rubbish. From nearly four years of observation of your posts... For
Your to say "he got what he deserved" is absolutely typical from you. Not because of the speed he was travelling, not because of the conditions...
Just because he had a nicer car than yours you were bound to
Give him a diss. Wind your neck in... For you to say "he got was he deserves" infuriates me. That could have happened to your wife, then it would have been a different story. Give the guy a break. He was hardly drifting thru spaghetti junction!
jay, I can say what I like, and coming from you, I'm really sad to see you say that. I thought that on a forum that people can have their opinions and not be shot at by the usual ones that feel like a pointing the finger.You do not know me well enough in person,well enough to judge me in this way..same goes for Anyone else.
This video I'm sure wouldn't of been posted if their was any sort of fatality, hopefully with respect to its owner, or their relatives.Well I would hope so if I or anyone in my family anyway.
So now your talking about my car, being not as good as that BMW, so what!!! :confused: who cares!! :stupid:
Like everything else , what's that got to do with it? :confused:
If the video had him actually hitting another car and causing injury by his driving with excess speed, then I'm sure your replys should u of choose to post them may of been abit different.
if you want to carry on calling with any more personal insults, that like I said, PM me and discuss.
Well you have certainly made my night if it infuriates you that much. :drinking:
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Had it happen to me too, 255 rear tyres are great for getting power down, sh*te for standing water. M3s are even wider.
You can tell its aquaplaning by the way it 4 wheel drifts past.
And no way is it doing 90. 60 tops.
And to roll the car at that speed???.... It's faster then that Mr D.. Imo
Steve, your talking rubbish. From nearly four years of observation of your posts... For
Your to say "he got what he deserved" is absolutely typical from you. Not because of the speed he was travelling, not because of the conditions...
Just because he had a nicer car than yours you were bound to
Give him a diss. Wind your neck in... For you to say "he got was he deserves" infuriates me. That could have happened to your wife, then it would have been a different story. Give the guy a break. He was hardly drifting thru spaghetti junction!
Well said Jay. :notworthy: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
Unfortunately your comments will fall on deaf ears. Mcavity tries hard lately to be nice but he always slips back to his nasty jealous self, as you can see by all his edited posts. :booty:
He will call me a name now. :laugh: then edit all his posts to look like a saint followed by acting all sad to make us feel sorry for him and ask us to cancel his account for the 4th or fifth time because he thinks i am picking on him rather than responding to his nasty snide comments. :indifferent: :indifferent: :indifferent: :indifferent: :indifferent:
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Are we sure it is an M3? Not that it makes much difference. Very sad to see anyone crash, whatever the reason.
TonyZ
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Had it happen to me too, 255 rear tyres are great for getting power down, sh*te for standing water. M3s are even wider.
You can tell its aquaplaning by the way it 4 wheel drifts past.
And no way is it doing 90. 60 tops.
And to roll the car at that speed???.... It's faster then that Mr D.. Imo
Steve, your talking rubbish. From nearly four years of observation of your posts... For
Your to say "he got what he deserved" is absolutely typical from you. Not because of the speed he was travelling, not because of the conditions...
Just because he had a nicer car than yours you were bound to
Give him a diss. Wind your neck in... For you to say "he got was he deserves" infuriates me. That could have happened to your wife, then it would have been a different story. Give the guy a break. He was hardly drifting thru spaghetti junction!
Well said Jay. :notworthy: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
Unfortunately your comments will fall on deaf ears. Mcavity tries hard lately to be nice but he always slips back to his nasty jealous self, as you can see by all his edited posts. :booty:
He will call me a name now. :laugh: then edit all his posts to look like a saint followed by acting all sad to make us feel sorry for him and ask us to cancel his account for the 4th or fifth time because he thinks i am picking on him rather than responding to his nasty snide comments. :indifferent: :indifferent: :indifferent: :indifferent: :indifferent:
Its called correcting a spelling mistake Topcat :stupid:
Hope you received my pm peanut
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Hahaha what a funny thread! As an M3 driver, I feel it my right to step in here...
Granted that this is a forum for Golfs, but the majority on here seem absolutely petrified of RWD. Well, that's the overwhelming feeling that I get from most posts concerning RWD cars over the last few years. Also, just because a car is RWD, it doesn't automatically mean that it's "sh!t" in the wet?! That phrase gets used far too often. Dependent on the characteristics of the car, you treat all high -powered cars with respect, regardless of what wheel drive it is. Ok sure, a 4wd car will be more forgiving but they can still bite as I'm sure most of you know.
Tony_danza has put it so perfectly in his previous posts. That was a simple case of aquaplaning, something which isn't just limited to RWD cars either. I had quite a hairy moment in my GTI once with standing water. Sure, wider section tyres don't help matters I appreciate that but just because a car is RWD it doesn't mean that it's a death trap in the wet!
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Its called correcting a spelling mistake Topcat :stupid:
Hope you received my pm peanut
Pressing the report to moderator button emails us all so TC will have received your message.
As for your request I won't telling TC to do anything, as he is, as everyone else is, on this site is fully entitled to their own opinion/views.
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Hahaha what a funny thread! As an M3 driver, I feel it my right to step in here...
Granted that this is a forum for Golfs, but the majority on here seem absolutely petrified of RWD. Well, that's the overwhelming feeling that I get from most posts concerning RWD cars over the last few years. Also, just because a car is RWD, it doesn't automatically mean that it's "sh!t" in the wet?! That phrase gets used far too often. Dependent on the characteristics of the car, you treat all high -powered cars with respect, regardless of what wheel drive it is. Ok sure, a 4wd car will be more forgiving but they can still bite as I'm sure most of you know.
Tony_danza has put it so perfectly in his previous posts. That was a simple case of aquaplaning, something which isn't just limited to RWD cars either. I had quite a hairy moment in my GTI once with standing water. Sure, wider section tyres don't help matters I appreciate that but just because a car is RWD it doesn't mean that it's a death trap in the wet!
Exactly!!
I had my wobble on runflats, they very quickly got ditched and it's now no more a widow maker in the wet than any other car.
There's many people here who have never and will never drive a RWD. That makes me sad. I've enjoyed every car I've owned, but I've only ever really loved my RWD ones.
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How many arguments over an m3 crashing :signLOL: I agree rwd is generally better, and as said all performance should be treated with respect, in this case the dude didn't, he floored it tried to pull back into outside lane and lost the rear because he lost traction. Done
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Its called correcting a spelling mistake Topcat :stupid:
Hope you received my pm peanut
Pressing the report to moderator button emails us all so TC will have received your message.
As for your request I won't telling TC to do anything, as he is, as everyone else is, on this site is fully entitled to their own opinion/views.
:congrats:
It's nice to know I can have my own opinion and not be chastised for it.
Edit* Stardate6969upyours: . Just so Topcat can see that I've added to my 1st post.. If you have a problem. Please use what's called a Pm rather then trying to start being Keyboard warriors.
Thankyou Steve, and yes I do know he would of got the message hence why I said it in the actual message :grin:
Enough now... :indifferent:
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you dont half talk alot of sh1t though steve :laugh:
hopefully the guy (and passenger) in the BMW were ok. I have aqua planned in a FWD car so it really makes no difference. Its pretty stupid to say that RWD + Water causes/d that. Try putting 440bhp through your front wheels and see if anything goes wrong. IMO he didnt seem to be doing excessive speed.
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you dont half talk alot of sh1t though steve :laugh:
hopefully the guy (and passenger) in the BMW were ok. I have aqua planned in a FWD car so it really makes no difference. Its pretty stupid to say that RWD + Water causes/d that. Try putting 440bhp through your front wheels and see if anything goes wrong. IMO he didnt seem to be doing excessive speed.
Ok..what like then? I'm not the one that says R32's are faster then GTi's am I :signLOL:
Do you think if the police watched this video back , they would let him off just because he has 440bhp....don't think so and my whole point about his speed and the conditions....
perhaps he would of been safer with a car with Haldex. :signLOL: :notworthy:
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My TTRS aquaplaned at 40mph on the motorway .You are a passenger till you clear the standing water. Loads of accidents that day on my way to Portsmouth from London.
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My guess the driver saw an undertake on the camera car but came up on the car in the middle lane a bit quick lifted off and induced an oversteer as he steered around the middle lane vehicle, looks like the front wheels still had grip till he hit the brake! Nasty either way. :scared:
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Fook me Steve. I'll give you this, you stick to your guns - even when everyone thinks you're being a complete tool. You'll be hanging around graveyards next, pointing and laughing like Nelson from the Simpsons as they're lowered into the ground.
Also, do remember, if he's on the throttle even lightly - as soon as you lose traction, the unloaded wheels mean revs rise and it'll sound like he's gunning it.
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My guess the driver saw an undertake on the camera car but came up on the car in the middle lane a bit quick lifted off and induced an oversteer as he steered around the middle lane vehicle, looks like the front wheels still had grip till he hit the brake! Nasty either way. :scared:
....That's exactly what I thought probably happened too and he hit standing water and aquaplaned. None of us actually know for certain.
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Whereas I think that Saintly Steve was perhaps too quick to make a judgement about how the BMW was being driven and express a strong opinion about it, some folks have been equally quick to jump all over him instead of calmly pointing out why they think he is wrong.
The result is a bit of a fight and bad feelings.
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Don't no if 100% true but when I had my 325 few mates who have been BMW mad said when the back end twitches out the worse thing you can do is brake as somthing to do with weight shifting can't really remember it. But the years I had the BMW and the car kicked out a bit I'll just come straight off the gas and i would get grip it worked for me expect once when I was going round a roundabout and spinning 180 in the rain :scared:. Now by the video in slowmo looked like the car was Indercating in hit a big puddle panic and hit the brakes what left the car uncontrollable well that's my theory :signLOL:
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Fook me Steve. I'll give you this, you stick to your guns - even when everyone thinks you're being a complete tool. You'll be hanging around graveyards next, pointing and laughing like Nelson from the Simpsons as they're lowered into the ground.
Also, do remember, if he's on the throttle even lightly - as soon as you lose traction, the unloaded wheels mean revs rise and it'll sound like he's gunning it.
4 people Tony Danza :congrats: :congrats: :signLOL:
Anyway, I like 100's of others are I expect now rather bored..
thanks Robin for your words.. :happy2:
We are entitled to our our opinions and as robin has pointed, no one knows the full circumstances as to why this accident happened...
I'm sticking with my opinion and that's what I'm entitled to do, like anyone else.
so if anyone else wants to stand their and act like they are GOD and generalise me for having my own opinion ,then they can do one..
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Now please put your own views on the video....if you dare to... :laugh: . Or pm me if you have issues you want to say to me personally.
I thank you.. :innocent:
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Re: benji, When you brake the weight transfers to the front end, thus giving you no grip over the driving wheels.
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Shush don't mention brakes. :wink:
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you dont half talk alot of sh1t though steve :laugh:
hopefully the guy (and passenger) in the BMW were ok. I have aqua planned in a FWD car so it really makes no difference. Its pretty stupid to say that RWD + Water causes/d that. Try putting 440bhp through your front wheels and see if anything goes wrong. IMO he didnt seem to be doing excessive speed.
Ok..what like then? I'm not the one that says R32's are faster then GTi's am I :signLOL:
Do you think if the police watched this video back , they would let him off just because he has 440bhp....don't think so and my whole point about his speed and the conditions....
perhaps he would of been safer with a car with Haldex. :signLOL: :notworthy:
see my other post for details. This is from that man that swore ed30 were a pile of crap until he got one :laugh:
everytime i read one of your posts it just reminds me of the movie BIG. :popcornsoda:
.. and just out of interest, what exactly do you think the police would do him for??
officer steve: "im sorry sir you were driving a better car than mine.... you are under arrest" :grin:
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Shush don't mention brakes. :wink:
Haha... I love you Ian :love: :signLOL:
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Human kindness means if you don't know, then you show a bit of compassion and give them the benefit of the doubt. However it seems that's lost on the Internet and everyone fires in with the nastiest thing their vile fingers can type.
4 people or 400, Steve, doesn't matter to me - you enjoy your opinion, I hope it tastes delicious and biley when something bad happens to you and you receive the same amount of goodwill you give to others.
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Human kindness means if you don't know, then you show a bit of compassion and give them the benefit of the doubt. However it seems that's lost on the Internet and everyone fires in with the nastiest thing their vile fingers can type.
4 people or 400, Steve, doesn't matter to me - you enjoy your opinion, I hope it tastes delicious and biley when something bad happens to you and you receive the same amount of goodwill you give to others.
I will sleep so much better. :happy2:
"I'm a massive douchebag". :smiley: :pomppomp:
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