MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: yin on June 06, 2009, 04:47:14 pm
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Just spotted this haven't seen it mentioned anybody seen or heard anything
http://www.thsperformance.co.uk/category/Intercooling
I seems revo have one on test on there K1
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221402
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A group buy will be available on this IC very soon.
One is being fitted to my car in a couple of weeks all being well :happy2:
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A group buy will be available on this IC very soon.
One is being fitted to my car in a couple of weeks all being well :happy2:
Got ant pics,info or sizes as i can't find anything
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Yes here's some pictures from the install in Revo's K1 :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FDSCN4312.jpg&hash=85a6af3091b230b6868aca2311fdbbe963ff3d91)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2FDSCN4304.jpg&hash=acfb6fcf42ee20556ade5d47847f6ba3c4a36702)
Don't have any exact specs (other than the details on the THS website) but I will see what I can find out :smiley:
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Thanks For the Info :happy2:
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what are the bits on the side off the cooler, look like some kind of sensors?
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with the ITG intake and the THS intercooler, intake temps are consistantly 11-19 degrees over ambient :)
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with the ITG intake and the THS intercooler, intake temps are consistantly 11-19 degrees over ambient :)
Hmm interesting
Any images of your ITG intake? :happy2:
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with the ITG intake and the THS intercooler, intake temps are consistantly 11-19 degrees over ambient :)
Hmm interesting
Any images of your ITG intake? :happy2:
Soon :wink:
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with the ITG intake and the THS intercooler, intake temps are consistantly 11-19 degrees over ambient :)
Hmm interesting
Any images of your ITG intake? :happy2:
We need more info on this when is it out ?
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I am in regular contact with the guys at ITG and as soon as I can post any confirmed details on the intake I will.
I can say you won't be disappointed when you see it (or hear it) :wink: :drool: :drool:
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I am in regular contact with the guys at ITG and as soon as I can post any confirmed details on the intake I will.
I can say you won't be disappointed when you see it (or hear it) :wink: :drool: :drool:
What sort if time scale are we talking i was about to buy dbilas :smiley:
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It's going to be a few weeks :smiley:
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i have this one on my car with the forge twin cooler pipes and seems to work a treat, not bad for £250 + price of the twin cooler pipes of forge :happy2: , http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-GTI-MK5-FSI-2-0T-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-KIT_W0QQitemZ270402724896QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ef5422420&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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has anyone also heard about the new forge cold side induction for the 2.0t fsi, it is a twin induction kit and gave 15bhp on there test car, looks like a good piece of kit, is currently in the making at the mo but as soon as it is out i shall be having one of them,
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i have this one on my car with the forge twin cooler pipes and seems to work a treat, not bad for £250 + price of the twin cooler pipes of forge :happy2: , http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-GTI-MK5-FSI-2-0T-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-KIT_W0QQitemZ270402724896QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ef5422420&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
how much bigger is this than the Twintercooler Got any pics of the front of the car ?
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has anyone also heard about the new forge cold side induction for the 2.0t fsi, it is a twin induction kit and gave 15bhp on there test car, looks like a good piece of kit, is currently in the making at the mo but as soon as it is out i shall be having one of them,
The only forge one i have heard about is based on the TSI one
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy115%2Fjonsmout%2F19.jpg&hash=d25bcc7f78e5652d3cce126c2e8d6b910d31dddf)
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how much bigger is this than the Twintercooler Got any pics of the front of the car ?
I am running the same FMIC, Managed to pick the full kit up on auction for £80 brand new.
Here are the pics.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FJaywoo85%2FGolf_GTi%2FImage0023.jpg&hash=cc661789a06d7d934f30f2c6ea4f3181622f79bf)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FJaywoo85%2FGolf_GTi%2FImage0022.jpg&hash=6e31369e355851141f79b6e98ad3b4432001fffa)
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has anyone also heard about the new forge cold side induction for the 2.0t fsi, it is a twin induction kit and gave 15bhp on there test car, looks like a good piece of kit, is currently in the making at the mo but as soon as it is out i shall be having one of them,
The only forge one i have heard about is based on the TSI one
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fy115%2Fjonsmout%2F19.jpg&hash=d25bcc7f78e5652d3cce126c2e8d6b910d31dddf)
i think it is similar to that air box in same place , and a extra filter down in the wing, they tested with one filter and gained 5bhp, when they used there 2 they gained 15bhp, i will defo be buying one
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how much bigger is this than the Twintercooler Got any pics of the front of the car ?
I am running the same FMIC, Managed to pick the full kit up on auction for £80 brand new.
Here are the pics.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FJaywoo85%2FGolf_GTi%2FImage0023.jpg&hash=cc661789a06d7d934f30f2c6ea4f3181622f79bf)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FJaywoo85%2FGolf_GTi%2FImage0022.jpg&hash=6e31369e355851141f79b6e98ad3b4432001fffa)
bargain, get the twin cooler pipes on there if u can get them of forge, as it will be running hotter now then it was, as the standard intercooler is quite good, when forge testd intercooler's to go on the car they found that it actually lost bhp and got a lot hotter with a FMIC, and gained a few bhp with the twin cooler
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But wont it introduce more lag to the system? Surely where the intercooler is positioned will mean colder intake temps, Certainly has made the car perform better.
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But wont it introduce more lag to the system? Surely where the intercooler is positioned will mean colder intake temps, Certainly has made the car perform better.
it didnt make my car any more laggy'er, felt like it pulled a bit harder when i put the twin cooler pipes on it, when i first installed it i didnt notice anything!!!! you gotta remember the intercooler is sat in front of the radiator so it will be drawing hot air in!! hence why i went for the twin cooler pipes as its now running standard intercooler and cheapy intercooler
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Did you buy you twin cooler pipes from forge? How much did you pay?
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Im not too sure if any of you have read the reports of those cheap ebay intercoolers over on golfmkv.com but it does not look good - issues with installing and quality of product -
its a copy of the forge but they use a different core which looks as cheap as chips, and I doubt will give you very much gain what so ever.
you get what you pay for, and imo its worth paying a few hundred pounds more to get a quality product which has been tested to have proven performance gains.
each to their own but I would not touch it wih a barge pole let alone put it on a £20k plus motor
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Mine fit fine, Yeah for £80 i was dubious but copaired it to my brothers greddy fmic and the cores and welding looked the same. As for gain i have seen a definate improvment of boost through the rev range.
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its made in china and the fact people can sell for them as little as £80 speaks volumes, did you buy it from a big seller or someone who was duped into buying and then resold?
if you look in the centre of the core through the pipe inlets and compare it too the forge the difference is very noticeable.
the fact you have disconnected your stock intercooler to fit that IC is crazy, even forge themselves during testing found out that their fmic on its own did not work as well as the stock IC, that is why they came up with the twintercooler design which uses both IC's - only then did they see real improvements.
so i very much doubt you are seeing any gains apart from a placebo effect
have a read : http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76134&highlight=ebay+fmic
good luck
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That isnt the same kind as mine, Mine is similar to the neuspeed one. I actually got it off a company the went into administration.
I am not on here to argue it is supperior to the forge one because i know it is not but it really isnt as bad as you are making out.
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the intercoolers we have got are not cheap crap ones as said above, and i am also running mine with the forge twin cooler pipes as well, the core is identical to the forge one's as well, it is obviously not as good as the forge twin cooler but certainly does the job!!! where do u think all the big company's get there stock from???? china/taiwan, there would be no money in it if they purchased them straight from england as the labour rate is to high in england , just because it is cheap doesnt mean it is crap!!!! they are £250 on e bay, £80 must of been bidding of e bay!!!!! :happy2:
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Im not too sure if any of you have read the reports of those cheap ebay intercoolers over on golfmkv.com but it does not look good - issues with installing and quality of product -
its a copy of the forge but they use a different core which looks as cheap as chips, and I doubt will give you very much gain what so ever.
you get what you pay for, and imo its worth paying a few hundred pounds more to get a quality product which has been tested to have proven performance gains.
each to their own but I would not touch it wih a barge pole let alone put it on a £20k plus motor
our intercoolers are also designed for the car, not a universal intercooler so fitment is a1
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I wonder if this Pro Alloy IC would work on our cars seeing a S3 IC does fit...
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=74187
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I've been meaning to post a link to that thread :smiley:
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, £80 must of been bidding of e bay!!!!! :happy2:
Yeah it was, I was the only person to bid and to be honest if it didnt fit to my satisfaction i could have doubled my money back on it.
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There will be a sample THS intercooler with us this weekend with some preorder forms..... :smiley:
get yourselves over and have a good look (i'll warn you now it's surprisingly big!)
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get yourselves over and have a good look (i'll warn you now it's surprisingly big!)
I've heard you say that a lot. :wink:
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I've heard you say that a lot. :wink:
that's my ego..... and my power figures :P
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All being well you will be able to see one on my car on Sunday as well :party: :party: :party:
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I wonder if this Pro Alloy IC would work on our cars seeing a S3 IC does fit...
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=74187
I will be having one of these on mine when i get the money, Pro alloy have got to have one of the best reputation for intercoolers that actually do the job properly... rather than half way. :smiley:
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So is this worth it on my car with no other mods than an 'old' dsg stage 1 bluefin remap - or is my car not in a high enough state of tune to warrant it ?
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So is this worth it on my car with no other mods than an 'old' dsg stage 1 bluefin remap - or is my car not in a high enough state of tune to warrant it ?
The GTi with the oem IC heat soaks fairly quickly so having a better IC should reap your rewards in terms of better overall performance especially in the summer together wil slightly better mpg if your driving habits remain the same.
That being said, the cheaper oem S3 IC may work almost as well with your present mods.
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So is this worth it on my car with no other mods than an 'old' dsg stage 1 bluefin remap - or is my car not in a high enough state of tune to warrant it ?
The GTi with the oem IC heat soaks fairly quickly so having a better IC should reap your rewards in terms of better overall performance especially in the summer together wil slightly better mpg if your driving habits remain the same.
That being said, the cheaper oem S3 IC may work almost as well with your present mods.
Forgot to say mine is an Edition 30 ... Do they have the same std i/c ?
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^^^ Yes the ED30 and GTI both have the same IC, so you would get a benefit from an uprated IC :happy2:
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so what charge temps and preassure drops are you all getting on these intercoolers ?
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Out of interest my stock Intercooler on my Ed 30 worked fine last weekend at Castle Combe....21-22 c never had any issues at all with heat soak on APR Stage 1 mapping. They seem to work well on track thus far.
I previuosly ran a Forge item on the APR Stage 3+ set up as my smaller Neuspeed item couldn't cope with trackdays and heat soak....the Forge item worked well though.
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21/22 is out side air temp i guess .
charge temps and pressure drops are what matter on i/c's and not much else .
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How does the THS compare to the APR. The APR is very big, towards the end of the summer Im removing my aircon rad and copresser to lose a bit of weight and get some more air onto the cooler....
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21/22 is out side air temp i guess .
charge temps and pressure drops are what matter on i/c's and not much else .
Yeah that was air temps. Still coped admirably :happy2:
I reckon the stock intercooler is pretty good thus far. My funds will have to go elsewhere ie Suspension, brakes and diff then more grunt.