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Title: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: jedi-knight83 on August 30, 2012, 12:37:44 am
So what happened to our money in the end?

I vote just send it to a cancer charity if he doesnt want it now...
Title: Re: phil miller
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 12:44:22 am
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It has been a while now and plenty of time for communication with either Phil Miller or his wife. If the money isn't going to him, then I think we should each decide where our individual contribution goes: Forum fund or returned to each of us to decide to donate to charity or not.
Title: Re: phil miller
Post by: scopes on August 30, 2012, 01:05:43 am
Stright in to the forum fund  :happy2: That should help keep it running  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: phil miller
Post by: Nodz on August 30, 2012, 06:32:06 am
It is unfortunate if Phil doesn't want it, but saying that no one knows what's going on.

If that does become the outcome I feel half should go towards the forum running costs and the other half to a charity. Personally i would say either help for heroes or a cancer charity as they are 2 charities close to me personally after some recent events. But that doesn't mean that I'd have the hump if we choose another charity as they are all for a good cause :happy2:
Title: Re: phil miller
Post by: SteveP on August 30, 2012, 06:40:07 am
I have also sent multiple messages to their registered email address and no reply.

So the options I would like to propose (which are now voting options on this thread): -

1 - Charity Donation
2 - Forum Fund
3 - 50/50 Split between the above

After Paypal took there cut we are left with a very respectable £382  :happy2:
Title: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: SteveP on August 30, 2012, 06:43:04 am
The poll has 14 days to run  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: AA on August 30, 2012, 06:46:13 am
 Forum Fund :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: MC71 on August 30, 2012, 06:46:48 am
^^^^ split between the forum and a charity IMO.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Banham on August 30, 2012, 07:00:08 am
^^^^ split between the forum and a charity IMO.  :happy2:

+1 seems fair :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: fab5freddy on August 30, 2012, 07:37:08 am
50/50  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: rich83 on August 30, 2012, 08:08:27 am
Refund? Or am I being a tight arse?  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: dodds-gttdi on August 30, 2012, 08:17:44 am
Refund? Or am I being a tight arse?  :signLOL:

 :party: Are you Scottish?  :signLOL:

I vote 50/50 split (and I'm Scottish)
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: JoeDarKa on August 30, 2012, 08:34:24 am
50/50 for me!
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: apples12 on August 30, 2012, 08:57:24 am
50/50 split  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 09:04:07 am
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Subject to which charity, I want a refund please.

I'm very fussy which charities I give to: For example, Help For Heroes yes, Great Ormond Street Hospital absolutely not! So I'm not happy to go with a charity which the forum happens to vote a majority for but which I don't want to give money to.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Deako on August 30, 2012, 09:14:04 am
I voted forum fund to benefit everyone here.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: sub39h on August 30, 2012, 09:26:01 am
Happy for 50/50 but like RR I would like to know which charity first. If it's not one I support the whole lot can go to the forum :happy2:

Sorry for being awkward

EDIT: i voted 50/50 but changed my mind to forum fund. seems simpler
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Tamiyoman on August 30, 2012, 09:29:01 am
I voted split 50/50, would prefer it to go to an animal charity like Dog's trust or Battersea dog's home, failing that either a Cancer/Heart charity.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 09:31:32 am
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Okay, thanks for adding the Refund option on the voting, Steve. But I think it's a very safe bet that Refund isn't going to reach a majority vote. So, are you intending to act according to the majority vote such that if I voted Forum Fund but the majority voted Charity, the money would go to Charity?

Sorry but I have strong feelings about which charities.

The plus side of voting Refund is that you can choose your own charity if at all.

I haven't decided which way to vote yet.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Top Cat on August 30, 2012, 09:42:29 am
I would say 100% forum Fund.
 I don't know the exact costs a year to run this place, but i do know, zero income comes in, other than donations from the members. SteveP commits a lot of time to the upkeep and i am sure he also has to pay a shortfall each year to keep it going.  Not sure i would do this just for other people i only know on tinternet. He doesn't even like asking on the forum for donations a couple of times a year. So come on guys it's obvious to me where the money should end up .   :drinking:


Back to you lot. It's members.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Mandy on August 30, 2012, 09:47:08 am
I was going to vote Forum Fund, and after what Topcat said- definitely Forum Fund. :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: skard on August 30, 2012, 10:05:34 am
It's a shame it's ended up like this as it was a brilliant gesture.

I voted for the forum fund as this 'collection' just showed exactly why this forum is a standout   :drinking:

50/50 is a great idea also and wouldn't be against this either. No particular charity in mind but like the thought it'd go to one who uses any donation on the frontline, rather than marketing and stationary.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Matto on August 30, 2012, 10:31:20 am
Forum fund from me.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: scopes on August 30, 2012, 10:31:37 am
I would say 100% forum Fund.
 I don't know the exact costs a year to run this place, but i do know, zero income comes in, other than donations from the members. SteveP commits a lot of time to the upkeep and i am sure he also has to pay a shortfall each year to keep it going.  Not sure i would do this just for other people i only know on tinternet. He doesn't even like asking on the forum for donations a couple of times a year. So come on guys it's obvious to me where the money should end up .   :drinking:


Back to you lot. It's members.

Top Cat is totally right there...

If we didn’t have this forum with all the help... we would not be doing as much as we do, because we would be getting stroked by VW or other indie garages!
At least we can discuss the problem maybe fix the problem at a far less cost... Even down to the VW rusty arch issue... I’m Sure that has saved a few quid for the members on here…

Not to mention the good craic that goes on…

Some other forums even charge just to be a member on there forum…

I think it should go in to the forum, I would have thought Phill would want that too!

As Robin says what % of it goes to charity really…?

How many miss the forum when it goes down for a night…

Just my thoughts I voted forum fund to benefit everyone here.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: MAT ED30 on August 30, 2012, 10:32:30 am
Forum simple
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 10:40:01 am
^^^^
Due to TopCat's information, I'm now inclined to vote 100% Forum Fund but I still would want a refund if the vote finished with a Charity or 50/50 majority. In other words, I need any choice of specific charity to be mine and mine alone, not a majority vote choice.

Why Phil Miller (or his wife) hasn't responded to efforts to contact him over this is a puzzle, and yet he is apparently active on another forum. Unfortunately it does raise questions I'd prefer not to ask. Such a helpful guy, which is partly why everyone here rallied round to help him.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: jedi-knight83 on August 30, 2012, 10:43:39 am
voted forum.

TBH its unfortunate as its now put me off donating to such causes in the future though.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: JoeDarKa on August 30, 2012, 10:58:17 am
Can i change my vote?  :grin:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: dodds-gttdi on August 30, 2012, 11:11:52 am
Can i change my vote?  :grin:

x2  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: andrewparker on August 30, 2012, 11:17:50 am
Why Phil Miller (or his wife) hasn't responded to efforts to contact him over this is a puzzle, and yet he is apparently active on another forum.

What forum is that?

FWIW I can understand why he might feel uncomfortable accepting the money, but it would be very easy to thank everyone but turn it down. Pretty baffling.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Greeners on August 30, 2012, 11:19:05 am
I voted for 50/50 as I thought that was the 'right' thing to do, but as folks seem happier for it all to go to the forum then that is now my preferred choice.

Plus I've now tried three times to post this and it's timed out!!  :rolleye: :rolleye:

Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Shewie on August 30, 2012, 11:19:30 am
Only been on here a couple of weeks but impressed so far by what I've seen... I would therefore propose the money goes into forum coffers, as from what i'm reading I think the charity issue is proving to be too devisive and would create more bad feeling. Better to go to the greater good of the forum, which in my opinion is just as worthy as any of the charities as it provides a valuble resource

BTW  - my vote has just levelled the scores!!
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: gazon69 on August 30, 2012, 11:26:44 am
I personally think this is a very odd scenario, as posted, even if he didn't want to accept the money of say thanks himself then at least you would have thought he would have had the decency to say thanks to all involved. On the subject of what to do with the money that was raised for him, i think everyone should be refunded and not put to vote at all. After all its our money that was put in. If the vote went towards the money going to some charity then i dont think i would be too pleased, if then anyone wants to donate their money they can do so themselves. My money by the way will be going towards the forum. Its a great place to be with some great characters and excellent advice. If it wasn't for this place a lot of people would be up sh*t creek. Just my 2 pence worth. :smiley:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 11:38:26 am

Why Phil Miller (or his wife) hasn't responded to efforts to contact him over this is a puzzle, and yet he is apparently active on another forum.


What forum is that?

FWIW I can understand why he might feel uncomfortable accepting the money, but it would be very easy to thank everyone but turn it down. Pretty baffling.


....My thoughts exactly. Especially as his wife had posted such a warm and sincere message thanking us all for our concern and well wishes etc. She didn't seem shy or unable to express herself fully.

The forum is linked from Reply #213 in the other Phil Miller thread (now locked). It's here: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=238852.0

EDIT:

Oh dear, Phil Miller has posted 6 times today so far on the other GTI forum. Shall I send him a diplomatically worded PM? Would it be better coming from you, SteveP? Or is it best to leave it be? - He has made his choice not to respond to us.

Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 11:40:41 am

Plus I've now tried three times to post this and it's timed out!!  :rolleye: :rolleye:


....Obviously because you haven't contributed enough to the forum coffers  :evilgrin:  :laugh:






[just joking of course]  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Deako on August 30, 2012, 11:52:07 am
I personally think this is a very odd scenario, as posted, even if he didn't want to accept the money of say thanks himself then at least you would have thought he would have had the decency to say thanks to all involved. On the subject of what to do with the money that was raised for him, i think everyone should be refunded and not put to vote at all. After all its our money that was put in. If the vote went towards the money going to some charity then i dont think i would be too pleased, if then anyone wants to donate their money they can do so themselves. My money by the way will be going towards the forum. Its a great place to be with some great characters and excellent advice. If it wasn't for this place a lot of people would be up sh*t creek. Just my 2 pence worth. :smiley:

Agree. I only donate to very specific charities. Some squander money on campaigns and door knocking, and i dont like that. Forum fund was what i voted and if that doesnt happen, id like my money to be taken out of the equation and donated specifically to the forum only.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 11:53:31 am

I personally think this is a very odd scenario, as posted, even if he didn't want to accept the money of say thanks himself then at least you would have thought he would have had the decency to say thanks to all involved. On the subject of what to do with the money that was raised for him, i think everyone should be refunded and not put to vote at all. After all its our money that was put in. If the vote went towards the money going to some charity then i dont think i would be too pleased, if then anyone wants to donate their money they can do so themselves. My money by the way will be going towards the forum. Its a great place to be with some great characters and excellent advice. If it wasn't for this place a lot of people would be up sh*t creek. Just my 2 pence worth. :smiley:


....I feel exactly the same as you do and have now voted 100% to Forum Fund. Plus proviso that 0% given on my behalf to charity.

If it was me in Phil Miller's circumstances I would be in floods of tears due to being so emotionally moved by everyone's heartfelt gesture but I would still reach for the Kleenex and write something even if it was that I was lost for words (no chance of that happening!).

Regardless of the outcome I think we would all simply like to hear from Phil or his representitive. As things stand currently, we are left with questions and a niggling doubt and we don't want to harbour such thoughts.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: MC71 on August 30, 2012, 12:40:46 pm
Can i change my vote?  :grin:

x2  :signLOL:


X3 

After reading TC's and RR's comments, seems the best way forward.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: monte on August 30, 2012, 02:21:45 pm
Forum Fund   :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Hedge on August 30, 2012, 02:59:43 pm
I didn't see the option for strippers and beer.  :confused:  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 30, 2012, 04:22:15 pm

I didn't see the option for strippers and beer.  :confused:  :evilgrin:


.... :signLOL: Nice one! Forget the beer. Lap dancers for me!
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: brookesb32 on August 30, 2012, 08:47:59 pm
I too also originally went on the 50/50 because I, like many others here, work or give to charities and see the benefits of doing so.

However, having read people's thoughts I am inclined to also switch to just the forum as deciding on a specific charity to please all just isn't realistic - plus a mentioned the forum deserves it nearly if not as much due to all the great people and info that helps us all out  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: MR02LOW on August 30, 2012, 08:58:33 pm
Forum fund for me  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: berg on August 30, 2012, 10:39:11 pm
i voted forum fund, but have no idea of the costs involved in running such a site, guess nothing is cheap though and the forum is so good it deserves every penny imo
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on August 30, 2012, 11:51:28 pm
voted forum.

TBH its unfortunate as its now put me off donating to such causes in the future though.

I'd do it again.
We don't know the reasons.
Are we sure the other Phil Miller is the same Phil Miller?
Maybe it wasn't as bad and was blown out of proportions and he is embarrassed?
Whatever do what you want with mine, its not mine anymore BTW I donated it, forum, charity but I don't want it back.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: TonyZed on August 30, 2012, 11:59:44 pm
I voted forum fund as I don't think it deserves the hassle SteveP would have had trying to keep everyone happy otherwise.
I would have been happy with any charity he chose, but hey, let's rig the democracy. :innocent:
TonyZ
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 31, 2012, 12:05:37 am

TBH its unfortunate as its now put me off donating to such causes in the future though.


I'd do it again.
We don't know the reasons.
Are we sure the other Phil Miller is the same Phil Miller?
Maybe it wasn't as bad and was blown out of proportions and he is embarrassed?


....I'd do it again too. Every single case and person is different.

No, we don't know the reasons yet.

Yes, we can be 99.9% sure it is the same Phil Miller - Everything checks out (I could go into detail but please take my word on it).

Let's for a moment say that his accident wasn't as bad as we all think and that he feels embarrassed as you suggest: It isn't difficult to say something like "Hey guys, that's an amazing thing you have all done but there is no need, I am absolutely fine now, and so I suggest you either bung it into the Forum Fund or refund folks".

It seems so out of character as we perceive him for him not to respond at all, and so he's not doing his reputation any good by ignoring us. I think I have now lost total respect for him unless he reappears in the next day or so.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Greeners on August 31, 2012, 12:12:16 am
I personally think people should stop coming to totally unfounded and speculative assumptions until the full facts have been established. There could be a number of reasons as to why there has been no contact, and until this is established I'd be inclined to keep our thoughts to ourselves.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 31, 2012, 12:17:06 am

I voted forum fund as I don't think it deserves the hassle SteveP would have had trying to keep everyone happy otherwise.

I would have been happy with any charity he chose, but hey, let's rig the democracy. :innocent:
TonyZ

....I agree wholeheartedly about not wanting to give SteveP extra hassle trying to keep absolutely everyone happy - An impossible task.

I'm not alone in being very choosy indeed about which charities I do or don't want to give to and that means that I won't allow anyone to choose for me. This isn't a democracy with elected representatives. We each made a voluntary contribution towards a specific cause and that cause has hit a brick wall of silence.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: monte on August 31, 2012, 12:40:56 am
I personally think people should stop coming to totally unfounded and speculative assumptions until the full facts have been established. There could be a number of reasons as to why there has been no contact, and until this is established I'd be inclined to keep our thoughts to ourselves.


 :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:


Has anyone actually been in touch with him yet? It could be that he has taken a turn for the worse  :surprised:

Is Moz the only forum member that physically knows Phil?
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 31, 2012, 12:48:45 am

Has anyone actually been in touch with him yet? It could be that he has taken a turn for the worse  :surprised:

Is Moz the only forum member that physically knows Phil?


....His posts today on another forum suggest that he has not taken any turn for the worse.

Someone PM Moz?

IIRC, SteveP has been in touch and has reported trying to get a response more recently, but without success.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: jedi-knight83 on August 31, 2012, 08:10:31 am
There is a phil miller here... not sure if its the same person but he has been posting all through august.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=42647
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: andrewparker on August 31, 2012, 08:20:06 am
There is a phil miller here... not sure if its the same person but he has been posting all through august.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=42647

It's definitely the same guy - the mobile number in this thread is the same as listed on a few of his posts on the other forum.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30429.0.html
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: jedi-knight83 on August 31, 2012, 08:22:32 am
If something smells fishy..... its usually a fish!

I'd now prefer my money to go to the forum than to phil miller.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on August 31, 2012, 09:05:42 am
I personally think people should stop coming to totally unfounded and speculative assumptions until the full facts have been established. There could be a number of reasons as to why there has been no contact, and until this is established I'd be inclined to keep our thoughts to ourselves.

What I was trying to say +1.

Not keen on all this 'my money' talk either.

Like I said 'I' donated some money its now not 'mine'!
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 31, 2012, 09:06:50 am
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If indeed there have been some circumstances which none of us here have anticipated, and hence some justification for Phil Miller's lack of response, then at least he should learn that it's a better course of action to respond to people rather than ignore them when they have reached out to help. Historically he has been good to the folks of this forum and we have responded and been good to him.

It's a mystery but one which needs solving, IMO.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on August 31, 2012, 09:12:32 am
Tbh I don't really care.

My conscience is clear.

When I give to charity then people say months later ' oh the directors spent all the money' its them in the wrong not me.

I'm 100% not saying that's not the case here as its not, just giving an example of my thought method.

Good intentions at the time which can turn bad is kinda not worth worrying about.

Like I said do what you want with 'mine'!
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on August 31, 2012, 09:23:42 am

Not keen on all this 'my money' talk either.

Like I said 'I' donated some money its now not 'mine'!


....It's not about the money but I understand what you mean - You are perhaps thinking that it's like tax in that as soon as it's handed over to a government's coffers it's theirs to do what they will with (although lots of people are led to believe for the sake of serving political interests, that it's still their money).

But it's not like a tax - We have volunteered and paid money to a specific cause and the forum admin team have consulted and asked us to vote where we would now like the money to go due to the circumstances of no response from the 'beneficiary' (Phil Miller).

Bloody Hell! It only needs a simple few words from Phil Miller (if it's not too late). Otherwise we simply express our wishes to the admin team. Thank You, Steve(P), for giving us this opportunity to discuss and vote - It's appreciated  :drinking:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on August 31, 2012, 10:19:25 am
I agree Robin.

I'm just a bit upset by some of the 'what's happening to my money'!

I'm not a big giver if I'm honest I prefer to receive lol! But when I do I do and that's that.

Over and out.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Moz on August 31, 2012, 01:42:21 pm
I know longer have his E-Mail or mobile number I'm afraid.

Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Thor on August 31, 2012, 03:07:30 pm
Forum Fund   :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: andrewparker on August 31, 2012, 04:25:58 pm
I know longer have his E-Mail or mobile number I'm afraid.

Well his mobile number is listed all over the place, but it's not your responsibility to sort it out.

I'd personally try PM'ing him through the forum he does seem active on, and if that is met with silence then I'm afraid you all have your answer.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: Syrag64 on August 31, 2012, 08:28:33 pm
I say 50/50
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on September 03, 2012, 09:26:28 am
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Phil Miller is back:   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53098.0.html

Very glad to hear this has worked out positively (you were right, Greeners).

He says he wants the collected monies to go to the Forum Fund.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on September 03, 2012, 10:16:46 pm
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Phil Miller is back:   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53098.0.html

Very glad to hear this has worked out positively (you were right, Greeners).

He says he wants the collected monies to go to the Forum Fund.

+1 I was right too RR :signLOL:

So happy its worked out alright.

Hope to see you back as a regular Phil soon.

To all the doubters, innocent BEFORE proven guilty.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: jedi-knight83 on September 03, 2012, 10:55:08 pm
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Phil Miller is back:   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53098.0.html

Very glad to hear this has worked out positively (you were right, Greeners).

He says he wants the collected monies to go to the Forum Fund.

+1 I was right too RR :signLOL:

So happy its worked out alright.

Hope to see you back as a regular Phil soon.

To all the doubters, innocent BEFORE proven guilty.

My doubt was less of the fact Phil may or may not be injured (or exist) and more the fact it was taking AGES to sort out.

I was actually the one who messaged him on the other forum and low and behold less than 12 hrs later its all solved.

This to me raises other questions... but its done now and I think we have probably all learnt a lesson.

Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on September 03, 2012, 11:07:04 pm
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Phil Miller is back:   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53098.0.html

Very glad to hear this has worked out positively (you were right, Greeners).

He says he wants the collected monies to go to the Forum Fund.

+1 I was right too RR :signLOL:

So happy its worked out alright.

Hope to see you back as a regular Phil soon.

To all the doubters, innocent BEFORE proven guilty.

My doubt was less of the fact Phil may or may not be injured (or exist) and more the fact it was taking AGES to sort out.

I was actually the one who messaged him on the other forum and low and behold less than 12 hrs later its all solved.

This to me raises other questions... but its done now and I think we have probably all learnt a lesson.



I really don't understand your comments at all?

So if Phil, in your mind, didn't exist. What did you think exactly? A conspiracy to raise money by the Moderators?

And what other questions does it raise then?

And what lesson have I, Greeners and RR learned then?

In fact I now find your comments and original post quite offensive, god help any of us if we get ill, have an accident etc etc and we don't come on here for a while to thank the well wishers.

I am truly humbled by the kindness, generosity in tough financial times, and general commerardery on this great yes great forum.

I see Phil is too, which is all that matters does it not?

Maybe this tread should now be locked by the Moderators as its all done and dusted.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: rich83 on September 03, 2012, 11:11:30 pm
We knew that Phil existed.
We knew that Phil had had and accident.

What puzzled me was his lack of urgency to say thanks to the more than generous people of this forum for having a whip around for his benefit. (especially now, as we know that he knew about the thread for some time)
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: MC71 on September 03, 2012, 11:12:18 pm
 locked or deleted, give the forum the funds as per Phil's request and move on! Less talk the better.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: h4rdy on September 03, 2012, 11:16:09 pm
Yes I am moving on from this before I get even more agitated.

I think he explained himself perfectly in his thread he created.

I see the 1st post has been edited too.

End of for me, I would do this again for the record even though the Mods probably won't want to. I hope they don't think like that as it is great humanity.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: jedi-knight83 on September 03, 2012, 11:49:27 pm
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Phil Miller is back:   http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53098.0.html

Very glad to hear this has worked out positively (you were right, Greeners).

He says he wants the collected monies to go to the Forum Fund.

+1 I was right too RR :signLOL:

So happy its worked out alright.

Hope to see you back as a regular Phil soon.

To all the doubters, innocent BEFORE proven guilty.

My doubt was less of the fact Phil may or may not be injured (or exist) and more the fact it was taking AGES to sort out.

I was actually the one who messaged him on the other forum and low and behold less than 12 hrs later its all solved.

This to me raises other questions... but its done now and I think we have probably all learnt a lesson.



I really don't understand your comments at all?

So if Phil, in your mind, didn't exist. What did you think exactly? A conspiracy to raise money by the Moderators?

And what other questions does it raise then?

And what lesson have I, Greeners and RR learned then?

In fact I now find your comments and original post quite offensive, god help any of us if we get ill, have an accident etc etc and we don't come on here for a while to thank the well wishers.

I am truly humbled by the kindness, generosity in tough financial times, and general commerardery on this great yes great forum.

I see Phil is too, which is all that matters does it not?

Maybe this tread should now be locked by the Moderators as its all done and dusted.

The question it raised to me was how was I able to get in touch so quickly when others weren't. That was all.

End of the day its done now.

As for lessons learnt... ok maybe I was being to general with my statement... lets narrow it down to MY lesson learnt which is... If im going to be quite picky with when and where my money goes then perhaps I shouldn't donate to someone I dont know via a forum moderater who again, I dont know.

Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: SteveP on September 04, 2012, 06:40:53 am
^^^ Then this forum doesn't want your money and it will be refunding you.

Edit - £5 refunded on Transaction ID 92846655193069433.

If anyone wants feels they have "learnt a lesson" and wants a refund then please let me know, because I am not going to stand by while I or this site is criticised for trying to do some good. Likewise this isn't fair on Phil as he has explained everything now and clearly has had a lot going on in his life.
Title: Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
Post by: RedRobin on September 04, 2012, 09:34:32 am

^^^ Then this forum doesn't want your money and it will be refunding you.

Edit - £5 refunded on Transaction ID 92846655193069433.

If anyone wants feels they have "learnt a lesson" and wants a refund then please let me know, because I am not going to stand by while I or this site is criticised for trying to do some good.


....I think that's a bit harsh, Steve. However, a refund may be what jedi-knight prefers anyway.

If it wasn't for jedi-knight's direct approach to 'Phil Miller' (in fact, unknown to us via his brother) on the other GTI forum, Phil might still have not overcome his difficulty in posting here to explain and update us all. He seems to have succeeded in contacting Phil when others didn't.

I think that some folks (including myself) pointed out Phil's active presence on the other forum here in an attempt to spur Admin/Moz/Phil's friends into contacting him - I, for one, didn't want to step on your toes in your efforts to make contact but thought of doing what jedi-knight did on several occasions - The phone number was made public for all to see.

I don't see how anyone is criticising this site for trying to do some good - Jedi-knight is simply openly expressing his views.

EDIT: Anyway, what matters most of course is that we all now know that Phil is well and any speculation is ended  :happy2: