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Title: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: JG220 on June 07, 2009, 06:09:30 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa377%2FJamesGray%2FIMG_0654WEB.jpg&hash=3450dcfdac99fabc1c915db9e623e9dac008b033)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa377%2FJamesGray%2FIMG_0655WEB.jpg&hash=1f12430594b323e2a1a35e8389fbd082cdfaa752)

Quite pleased with these, unfortunately he got bored driving round in circles  :laugh:


 :smiley:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: CocoPops on June 07, 2009, 06:10:10 pm
Cheeky Bugger..


Oh yeah.... Forum Whore ;)  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 06:11:28 pm
What camera are you using? Not bad shots - so just how long was Mr Pops driving around in circles for you to get these shots?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Phil Mcavity on June 07, 2009, 06:12:11 pm
Lee, you car still looks clean :happy2:

Keep it up , and have a great trip :wink:

Keep an eye out for those Unmarked Skoda Octavia's  :wink:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: JG220 on June 07, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Canon 450D :)

Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 06:38:33 pm
Canon 450D :)


Which mode are you shooting in? Are you using AI servo
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: JG220 on June 07, 2009, 06:44:57 pm
erm, not sure what an AI mode is?

Fully manual and manual focus. T between 1/50th and 1/100th, and depth of field of 25ish
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: bennylenny88 on June 07, 2009, 08:21:52 pm
shouldve got someone to drive you next to him.. wouldve made for easier shots mate :happy2:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: WhiteGTI on June 07, 2009, 08:23:30 pm
shouldve got someone to drive you next to him.. wouldve made for easier shots mate :happy2:


Doesn't that defeat the object of panning though!!!?
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: CocoPops on June 07, 2009, 08:28:00 pm
shouldve got someone to drive you next to him.. wouldve made for easier shots mate :happy2:


Doesn't that defeat the object of panning though!!!?

Exactly that Chris....  :happy2:

I was driving a loop at 30mph and James was panning the camera to get a moving shot.

We both have 450Ds and so it's all about learning.
Gonna try similar shots at Le Mans this weekend.
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: bennylenny88 on June 07, 2009, 08:28:57 pm
lol i know but its so much easier  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: CocoPops on June 07, 2009, 08:30:39 pm
lol i know but its so much easier  :rolleye:

Right....
So I'll just drive out on track at Le Mans shall I?  :signLOL: :signIWS:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: WhiteGTI on June 07, 2009, 08:31:08 pm
 :signLOL: :signLOL:

Benny! Think before you post  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 08:54:17 pm
erm, not sure what an AI mode is?

Fully manual and manual focus. T between 1/50th and 1/100th, and depth of field of 25ish

Look it up in the manual, you will have much better/more consistent results with AI servo - basically this AF mode will continually focus when the shutter is depressed half way (just like you get in the sports mode). Your shutter speeds are fine for the speeds Cocopops was going but I would suggest upping your ISO to somewhere between 600-800 for racing. Depth of field is very much dependant on how far you will be from the cars when shooting, the further away you will be the less important it will be to close down the lens (high f no's) for exposure.

Hope this helps a bit.

Dom
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: chungster on June 07, 2009, 08:58:56 pm
panning shots are amazing when you nail them crisp and clear.

at the motorsport events i go to i'm playing with shutter speeds of 1/50 or below. damn hard to get a good one but when u do you think its what photography is all about!  thank god for continuous burst mode tho...  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 09:02:30 pm
panning shots are amazing when you nail them crisp and clear.

at the motorsport events i go to i'm playing with shutter speeds of 1/50 or below. damn hard to get a good one but when u do you think its what photography is all about!  thank god for continuous burst mode tho...  :signLOL:
It Certianly helps when you have got an Image stabilised lens and using a monopod makes a huge improvement too. I tend to use my Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS for motorsport and will not be without my monopod  :smiley:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Hedge on June 07, 2009, 09:08:31 pm
For panning though shouldn't you turn your IS off as that contradicts the effect?
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: chungster on June 07, 2009, 09:14:58 pm
panning shots are amazing when you nail them crisp and clear.

at the motorsport events i go to i'm playing with shutter speeds of 1/50 or below. damn hard to get a good one but when u do you think its what photography is all about!  thank god for continuous burst mode tho...  :signLOL:
It Certianly helps when you have got an Image stabilised lens and using a monopod makes a huge improvement too. I tend to use my Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS for motorsport and will not be without my monopod  :smiley:

i use a 70-300 with VR and monopod when i'm doing panning shots, but lately i've been trying without the monopod.

here's one at 1/50th of the Team Aon Focus, didn't quite get it totally clear.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi32%2FChungsterGTI%2FBTCC%25202009%2520R1%2FDSC_0795a.jpg&hash=b604cb79aa8c413310d03e0aff5c348123038870)

and one at 1/40th.

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Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: chungster on June 07, 2009, 09:18:30 pm
For panning though shouldn't you turn your IS off as that contradicts the effect?

funny you say that cos i found mine to do exactly that, so i turned it off to start with.

but lately my tog tutor mate told me to switch it back on. and i've found it to work quite well when panning free hand.
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Hedge on June 07, 2009, 09:22:00 pm
funny you say that cos i found mine to do exactly that, so i turned it off to start with.

but lately my tog tutor mate told me to switch it back on. and i've found it to work quite well when panning free hand.

Not just a pretty face. :wink:

I was also struggling to understand how you can pan using a monopod.
I'll dig some of mine out. :wink:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: bennylenny88 on June 07, 2009, 09:26:39 pm
:signLOL: :signLOL:

Benny! Think before you post  :rolleye:
i was offering some advice how was i supposed to know he was going with pops!
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Hedge on June 07, 2009, 09:35:07 pm
Bit of a lucky one this as I was zooming and just happened to catch that. Makes me feel sick if I look for too long. :sick:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FCastle_Combe_Spring_09%2FIMGP4521.jpg&hash=d78a54fb355887efdd8a15f973f1cdb9d77e67c0)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGoodwood_BARC_Sprint%2FIMGP1979.jpg&hash=0f4d7bd82b27dde240eb4fa75a30009f41d524ad)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGoodwood_FOS_08%2FIMGP1121.jpg&hash=168d88f164f6e780154abe70e2f300df4d126687)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGRRC_Sprint_09%2FIMGP4022.jpg&hash=485cf52408cb148f6b95dcdbb176d030c60422a7)
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Top Cat on June 07, 2009, 09:40:15 pm

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excellent photo there big fella.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 09:56:09 pm
For panning though shouldn't you turn your IS off as that contradicts the effect?
Depends on the IS system and lens. A few of my Canon lenses have 2 modes for IS. Mode 1 is the normal IS mode. In this mode, the image is stabilised in the horizontal as well as the vertical direction.  Mode 2 is panning mode. The lens will only stabilise in the vertical direction, but not in the horizontal direction. That means you can drag the lens along with a moving subject in the horizontal direction. Good when you're making photos of fast moving cars.
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Hedge on June 07, 2009, 10:01:54 pm
For panning though shouldn't you turn your IS off as that contradicts the effect?
Depends on the IS system and lens. A few of my Canon lenses have 2 modes for IS. Mode 1 is the normal IS mode. In this mode, the image is stabilised in the horizontal as well as the vertical direction.  Mode 2 is panning mode. The lens will only stabilise in the vertical direction, but not in the horizontal direction. That means you can drag the lens along with a moving subject in the horizontal direction. Good when you're making photos of fast moving cars.

I stand corrected. Being a Pentax user I have it "in body" so not many options there.
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: chungster on June 07, 2009, 10:03:35 pm
For panning though shouldn't you turn your IS off as that contradicts the effect?
Depends on the IS system and lens. A few of my Canon lenses have 2 modes for IS. Mode 1 is the normal IS mode. In this mode, the image is stabilised in the horizontal as well as the vertical direction.  Mode 2 is panning mode. The lens will only stabilise in the vertical direction, but not in the horizontal direction. That means you can drag the lens along with a moving subject in the horizontal direction. Good when you're making photos of fast moving cars.


hmm i wonder if mine has that mode?? 
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 10:04:54 pm
What lens you using Chungster?
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: chungster on June 07, 2009, 10:35:51 pm
What lens you using Chungster?

nikon 70-300 AF-S VR F4.5-5.6  :happy2:

Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 07, 2009, 10:39:05 pm
Chungster, I'm by no means an expert on the Nikon gear as I am a Canon man but there should be a VR Type button: In the Normal position, VR will detect panning and not try to correct for it. In the Active position, VR takes out all motion.

Hope that helps.

Dom
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: chungster on June 07, 2009, 10:54:32 pm
Chungster, I'm by no means an expert on the Nikon gear as I am a Canon man but there should be a VR Type button: In the Normal position, VR will detect panning and not try to correct for it. In the Active position, VR takes out all motion.

Hope that helps.

Dom

yeah it has the manual or active setting which is what i've been playing with.

bottom line is (per my mate) i just need to get out there and practice!  good fun tho, especially when you have media pass access to some events!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Panning practice with Mr Pops
Post by: Phil Mcavity on June 08, 2009, 08:21:06 am
Yay, finally found out how to change my shutter speed!!!, only a few days too late  :sad: