MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on September 08, 2012, 10:58:11 am
Mid June I lost oil pressure on the m25, I had the car recovered and I removed the sump and balance shaft to see what had happened, basically the chain that connects the crank to the balance shaft has snapped..
I have bought the chain however you need to remove the crank pulley and a part of the engine to replace it

I'd say I'm 65% mechanically minded, I know what I'm doing or there abouts

Obviously because the car ran for a while with no oil, I cannot guarantee that  the engine hasn't suffered permanent damage

I need to buy a locking tool in order to remove the crank pully

Would you:
Replace the chain, forever wonder why it snapped in the first place and hope all is well

Get a new engine, although it could be another ticking time bomb

This engine is just under 90k send it somewhere to get rebuilt with some better internals and chase hp?

All are expensive, potential option 1 could be time expensive too!

Alan
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: jimk04 on September 08, 2012, 12:14:43 pm
A friend of mine had a brnad new 10 plate S3 from the dealer and that snapped within 5k miles....so I think its just a bad luck thing.

Sorry this isnt much help!

Good luck with the fix mate
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Portent on September 08, 2012, 01:12:09 pm
I'm not mechanically minded but if it were me, and assuming I had the funds, I would get the engine rebuilt but stronger and uprated. At least that wat you get something faster for your money.
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Black9 on September 08, 2012, 01:27:56 pm
Price up what its gonna cost for a rebuild & go from there. I'd personally get an edition 30 engine with KO4
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: bacillus on September 08, 2012, 01:32:11 pm
I would ring Statlers in Sheffield to see if he's got any used low mileage engines available. It would probably work out cheaper than trying to repair your present engine.
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on September 08, 2012, 04:18:02 pm
Price up what its gonna cost for a rebuild & go from there. I'd personally get an edition 30 engine with KO4

this would be my ideal solution.. but try and find a edition 30 engine!!
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Geoffcarragh on September 08, 2012, 04:50:40 pm
Has anybody ever done an R32 engine swap into a mk5 GTI? Mk2 v6 engine swaps are common in PVW mag, I haven't seen a mk5.

It would be daft but brilliant. You would need a degree in man maths to justify the cost.
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Hurdy on September 08, 2012, 04:55:13 pm
Has anybody ever done an R32 engine swap into a mk5 GTI? Mk2 v6 engine swaps are common in PVW mag, I haven't seen a mk5.

It would be daft but brilliant. You would need a degree in man maths to justify the cost.

Not something anyone would probably even consider, the engine is thirstier, heavier and less powerful than a mapped GTI engine. The price would be daft to do it too.
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Phil Miller on September 08, 2012, 05:27:09 pm
Has anybody ever done an R32 engine swap into a mk5 GTI? Mk2 v6 engine swaps are common in PVW mag, I haven't seen a mk5.

It would be daft but brilliant. You would need a degree in man maths to justify the cost.

why build what you can buy, the R lump would prob cost 2k and then you would need to recode loads to get it to work, then you would have de valved the car so much it wouldnt be worth a wank
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on September 09, 2012, 09:01:15 am
its a good idea in theory (r32) but it wouldnt work, I almost bought an r32 instead of the GTI however i chose againsts it for higher running costs and the performance is almost the same! the only usp would be the 4wd system which would be lost on the GTI so in the end it just ends up as a heavier thirstier GTI..

god i miss this car, i bought a MGF as a run about for cheap no frills wind in hair sun on face summer loving! actually a pretty decent car! and the head gasket has only blown up 700 times.. i miss the build quality of the GTI

Alan
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Poverty on September 09, 2012, 11:58:04 am
Rebuild is about 3k, I'd buy a ko4 lumP
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Mk5 GTian on September 09, 2012, 12:09:03 pm
Rebuild is about 3k, I'd buy a ko4 lumP
+1. Just a Stage 1 remap = 280 -300bhp doesn't it?
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on September 09, 2012, 02:34:35 pm
well, if anyone knows of one for sale including turbo etc. then can you let me know
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: bacillus on September 09, 2012, 02:43:56 pm
well, if anyone knows of one for sale including turbo etc. then can you let me know

Didn't I mention to call Steve at Statlers? You can also PM from here http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5906 as he's a forum member.
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on September 09, 2012, 02:59:33 pm
I have PM'd him :)
thanks
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: AndyS on September 09, 2012, 05:33:54 pm
Just had an engine replaced by Steve at Stattlers, and what a great job he did. I would Highly recommended him...........
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on November 03, 2012, 05:32:16 pm
Well, I stripped all the side of the engine down and replaced the chain, refitted the balance chart and put a new Cambelt on it...
Started up straight away.. But sounds a bit tappy... I haven't had the car running since June, I can't remember if the engine tapped this loudly before?

I'm pretty chuffed I did it all for myself.. The ticking is coming from around the fuel pump but there is a bit of a thud on the engine too...

It's only an iPhone vid.. Do you think it sounds ok? It doesn't seem particularly smokey, bearing in mind the maf is disconnected and the intake pipe work


Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: martziniuk on November 03, 2012, 07:17:41 pm
The link doesn't work
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on November 03, 2012, 07:20:59 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=ksLCGgeZZTg

I have listened to a few on youtube and they all sound similar tbh
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: Horatio on November 04, 2012, 06:41:09 am
When I had my eddy30, it sounded exactly like this. Even after Cambelt/WP change it still sounded tappy but softer. I think it's pretty much standard.
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: AndyS on November 04, 2012, 10:49:14 am
When I first got my GTI I had VW look at the engine due to the tapping noise, they said it was normal.

A month or two later the oil pump gave way and tock the engine out. My new engine does not make the same amount of noise as the old one !
Title: Re: Broken engine, where would you go from here
Post by: af1 on November 04, 2012, 03:32:15 pm
That's exactly what happened to this enginr