MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: E30Dom on September 19, 2012, 03:56:25 pm
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For anyone that has had a stage 1/2/2+/3 edition 30, what diesels have you considered... has to be 4 door, sporty and sub £14k?
Cheers,
Dom
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Get rid of my ED30?. I would rarther cut my arm off with a blunt knife :laugh: Don't do it. :happy2:
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New shape 330D manual? A decent remap and an exhaust will see very close to 300bhp and 500lb/ft. That is pretty much on the pace of a stage 2 Edition 30. :happy2:
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Octavia vRS 2.0TDI CR170. Loads of room, great chassis, greta interior, and stage 2 it and you'll see 230hp/360lbft!!
£14k will get you a low mileage DSG with loads of extras as well!!
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Octavia vRS 2.0TDI CR170. Loads of room, great chassis, greta interior, and stage 2 it and you'll see 230hp/360lbft!!
£14k will get you a low mileage DSG with loads of extras as well!!
Thanks not a bad shout, and make it look like Alex's... But then I'd want to keep my Scirocco R brakes, but would sell my Edition as is if I did...
It has to be VAG i think, my BMW days are over, don't like the newer stuff...
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You'll be able to get the facelift Octavia DSG for 14k, so it will look like eithr Hedges Hatch or vRSCarls Estate
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Mmmm might write an advert tonight... :scared:
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When I thought of getting rid f mine after the break in I kept coming back to the face lifted octavia hatch back in blue and as said above, you can pick up an extremely well spec'd model for sub £14k
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Mmmm might write an advert tonight... :scared:
What's changed your mind in less than 48 hrs???
you were smitten just a few days ago??
if your selling just to try cut running costs,your only better off in a 1.0 or 1.2 litre petrol city car.
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New shape 330D manual? A decent remap and an exhaust will see very close to 300bhp and 500lb/ft. That is pretty much on the pace of a stage 2 Edition 30. :happy2:
Its hard to see past BMW M Sport diesels, the 330D 09 onwards is 245 bhp standard and is well received in reviews.
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New shape 330D manual? A decent remap and an exhaust will see very close to 300bhp and 500lb/ft. That is pretty much on the pace of a stage 2 Edition 30. :happy2:
Its hard to see past BMW M Sport diesels, the 330D 09 onwards is 245 bhp standard and is well received in reviews.
Damn right, awesome things, especially for a daily. Fast but good on fuel when chilling. Its a shame they only did 335d's with auto and not manuel/DCT. That would make an awesome car!
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New shape 330D manual? A decent remap and an exhaust will see very close to 300bhp and 500lb/ft. That is pretty much on the pace of a stage 2 Edition 30. :happy2:
Its hard to see past BMW M Sport diesels, the 330D 09 onwards is 245 bhp standard and is well received in reviews.
Damn right, awesome things, especially for a daily. Fast but good on fuel when chilling. Its a shame they only did 335d's with auto and not manuel/DCT. That would make an awesome car!
I hear the newer auto boxes are much better than they used to be but this depends on preference.
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335d. Wish I never sold mine:
Kept up well with my stg2+ ed30 and would out handle it with ease.
Or as someone else mentioned, 330d:
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Mmmm might write an advert tonight... :scared:
What's changed your mind in less than 48 hrs???
you were smitten just a few days ago??
if your selling just to try cut running costs,your only better off in a 1.0 or 1.2 litre petrol city car.
Nothing's changed really, still an awesome car, just with fuel prices creeping up and doing 60miles a day, has got me thinking diesel...
...then I drive home, and it all changed lol... Just so effortless.
Just wanna get ideas if I do ever have to change to the dark side... ;-)
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Octavia vRS 2.0TDI CR170. Loads of room, great chassis, greta interior, and stage 2 it and you'll see 230hp/360lbft!!
£14k will get you a low mileage DSG with loads of extras as well!!
What's needed for stage 2?
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AndrewJB on here will be a pretty good guy to ask, he had stage 2 DPF delete on his Leon Fr TDI and was pushing over 220Hp with a Shark remap.
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When I was doing 25k+ a year, I had a leggy diesel hatchback and a toy car for fun. Was the cheapest way to get my motoring thrills, and punting a lazy older diesel around made me appreciate the performance of a lighter agile car all the more. The other good thing was that I'd park the diesel anywhere and not give a damn. Not suggesting a GTI is a car to be treasured (only a hatchback after all... flame suit on), but it's a bit more interesting and worthy of a bit more respect and care.
Might not suit your circumstances, but a 4-5 year old repmobile is a cheap way to travel. Failing that keep the E30, buy a Toyota Aygo and a mask - they're great on fuel and surprisingly good fun!
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335d or 535d
Check out the BHP and Torque with a remap :surprised:
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but, he said 14k or less. Have a look on auto trader for 335d or 535d beamers for that price. They arent many at all, and what few there are have massive mileage
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That said what about a BMW Alpina D3? 215hp std, 245hp @ stage 1
Plenty of them for sub 14k, and thats alot of car for the money.
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AndrewJB on here will be a pretty good guy to ask, he had stage 2 DPF delete on his Leon Fr TDI and was pushing over 220Hp with a Shark remap.
This is the same as mine. Stage 2 with DPF/EGR delete with shark software and running 216bhp/464nm.
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but, he said 14k or less. Have a look on auto trader for 335d or 535d beamers for that price. They arent many at all, and what few there are have massive mileage
535D
As low as £9900 for "low" mileage.
- HERE (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201238485487896/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/model/5_series/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/po157gu/keywords/535d/radius/1501?logcode=p)
On his budget
- HERE (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201226477052910/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/price-to/14000/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/model/5_series/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/keywords/535d/radius/1501/postcode/po157gu/page/1?logcode=p)
335D
On his budget
- HERE (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201237484542633/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/price-to/14000/maximum-mileage/up_to_80000_miles/make/bmw/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/po157gu/keywords/335d/radius/1501?logcode=p)
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I didn't say there were none, I said not many. I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k personally.
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I didn't say there were none, I said not many. I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k personally.
Exactly...
Not when i can get a facelifted Octavia vRS TDi estate 170 in Dark grey with under 20k miles... Hmmm do I do it?
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Swap it. My ed30 was stage 2+ , went to a 123d and didnt bother mapping it for 12 months, now stage 1and I have never regretted the swap... Once or twice something really powerful has passed and ive thought 'the golf wouldve stayed with that'... thats it...
The Octavia VRS Diesel are such a bargain.
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Iv been considering a touareg v10 tdi..... Beat that torque figure (and mpg figure)
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Iv been considering a touareg v10 tdi..... Beat that torque figure (and mpg figure)
Which car are you referring to? The Toerag will not better any of those Diesels when its average on a combined cycle is 23 MPG...
OP - The 170 Diesels are no doubt good cars but imo there are better diesels on the market for a similar price...I think the GTD is a bit expensive in comparison.
Perhaps dropping to a 330D would be not as large a performance drop than a TDI 170 would be.
If your heart is set on VAG then fair enough you wont end up with a shocker.
Also DPF removal may become an issue in the future if regulations change?
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I didn't say there were none, I said not many. I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k personally.
Sorry pal my mistake.
I'v come from a 170 PPD and it's the worst motor I have ever owned personally, you may be lucky and I hope you do. The injectors go wrong but are under warranty, the DPF's clog badly, and sensors go. I had my DPF removed prior to problems. The turbo had a bit of play so that was replaced, the head cracked leading me to fork out a £2500 bill.
I wish all this was a one off but theres quite a few people with the problems mentioned. Let's hope you do get good one.
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I didn't say there were none, I said not many. I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k personally.
Sorry pal my mistake.
I'v come from a 170 PPD and it's the worst motor I have ever owned personally, you may be lucky and I hope you do. The injectors go wrong but are under warranty, the DPF's clog badly, and sensors go. I had my DPF removed prior to problems. The turbo had a bit of play so that was replaced, the head cracked leading me to fork out a £2500 bill.
I wish all this was a one off but theres quite a few people with the problems mentioned. Let's hope you do get good one.
I think the 09 onwards TDI is better for DPF reliability. There are many MK5 petrols and diesels with problems (Oil consumption anyone?) and I agree there is more than a one off!
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Still considering the Fabia vRS estate?
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I didn't say there were none, I said not many. I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k personally.
Sorry pal my mistake.
I'v come from a 170 PPD and it's the worst motor I have ever owned personally, you may be lucky and I hope you do. The injectors go wrong but are under warranty, the DPF's clog badly, and sensors go. I had my DPF removed prior to problems. The turbo had a bit of play so that was replaced, the head cracked leading me to fork out a £2500 bill.
I wish all this was a one off but theres quite a few people with the problems mentioned. Let's hope you do get good one.
I think the 09 onwards TDI is better for DPF reliability. There are many MK5 petrols and diesels with problems (Oil consumption anyone?) and I agree there is more than a one off!
Wasn't 09 onwards the CR and not the Siemens PPD?
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I didn't say there were none, I said not many. I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k personally.
Sorry pal my mistake.
I'v come from a 170 PPD and it's the worst motor I have ever owned personally, you may be lucky and I hope you do. The injectors go wrong but are under warranty, the DPF's clog badly, and sensors go. I had my DPF removed prior to problems. The turbo had a bit of play so that was replaced, the head cracked leading me to fork out a £2500 bill.
I wish all this was a one off but theres quite a few people with the problems mentioned. Let's hope you do get good one.
I think the 09 onwards TDI is better for DPF reliability. There are many MK5 petrols and diesels with problems (Oil consumption anyone?) and I agree there is more than a one off!
Wasn't 09 onwards the CR and not the Siemens PPD?
Yeh thats right CR injection and not PD.
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Iv been considering a touareg v10 tdi..... Beat that torque figure (and mpg figure)
Which car are you referring to? The Toerag will not better any of those Diesels when its average on a combined cycle is 23 MPG...
OP - The 170 Diesels are no doubt good cars but imo there are better diesels on the market for a similar price...I think the GTD is a bit expensive in comparison.
Perhaps dropping to a 330D would be not as large a performance drop than a TDI 170 would be.
If your heart is set on VAG then fair enough you wont end up with a shocker.
Also DPF removal may become an issue in the future if regulations change?
Was a sarcastic comment about the MPG...
My point was how amazing the engine is and not a serious suggestion unless the OP has deep pockets and wants to tow a 747 (see top gear)
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Iv been considering a touareg v10 tdi..... Beat that torque figure (and mpg figure)
Which car are you referring to? The Toerag will not better any of those Diesels when its average on a combined cycle is 23 MPG...
OP - The 170 Diesels are no doubt good cars but imo there are better diesels on the market for a similar price...I think the GTD is a bit expensive in comparison.
Perhaps dropping to a 330D would be not as large a performance drop than a TDI 170 would be.
If your heart is set on VAG then fair enough you wont end up with a shocker.
Also DPF removal may become an issue in the future if regulations change?
Was a sarcastic comment about the MPG...
My point was how amazing the engine is and not a serious suggestion unless the OP has deep pockets and wants to tow a 747 (see top gear)
Sorry Fella I missed the sarcasm lol :grin:
Yes I saw the episode on TG and it has some serious torque.