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Title: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 12:43:43 pm
Now this is simply lovely - http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26389

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.pistonheads.com%2Fnimg%2F26389%2F3_jaguar_f-type-L.jpg&hash=4e4f74500978470dc8d88ccc87997d920aefe40b)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: dodds-gttdi on September 20, 2012, 12:57:32 pm
 :drool: :happy2: Lovely Car. Nowhere near my budget, or age-range but good to see some nicely designed cars on the road.  :happy2:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 01:14:05 pm
Or age-range...

It's the first Jag in ages that I think might challenge that stereotype... though I'm prepared to be wrong about that!
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: Hedge on September 20, 2012, 01:34:46 pm
This was the one from FoS.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FCar%2FGoodwood_FoS_2012%2FIMGQ9350.jpg&hash=a90971075d2eda3981e91cb00f22bd2f59481bb7)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: RedRobin on September 20, 2012, 02:46:11 pm
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The headlights look like either frog's eyes or the eyes of a startled rabbit!

The front body styling imitates a Maserati. The previous Jag imitated the Aston Martin. What's happened to Jaguar's styling? It used to be so elegant:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FTrack%2FHillclimbs%2Ffile-44.jpg&hash=32f7518c074bbacdf2322f15f58691d340c4c02a)

^ The C-type  :notworthy:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FTrack%2FHillclimbs%2Ffile-34.jpg&hash=f270e7415acde07d01f9468506e7fc3183dc69d7)

^ The E-type  :notworthy:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: Kregiel on September 20, 2012, 03:40:37 pm
I am with you on that one RR!

However they need to attract cough, cough :-) younger crowd!

Paul
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: justsean on September 20, 2012, 03:44:12 pm
I think it looks excellent - first jag that doesn't look like a grandad car
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: RedRobin on September 20, 2012, 04:23:05 pm

I think it looks excellent - first jag that doesn't look like a grandad car


....You are obviously not old enough to be familiar with other Jaguars in their history - I assure you that they were far from being a grandad car. It's only the relatively recent saloons which have earned them that reputation.

Don't get me wrong, it doesn't look that bad but it doesn't display any originality or signs of the thoroughbred that Jaguar once was.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: MC71 on September 20, 2012, 04:37:38 pm
I am with you on that one RR!

However they need to attract cough, cough :-) younger crowd!

Paul

Your right about Jaguar attracting the younger peeps, think there getting there with the F Type.  :happy2:

 Have previously said that jags are for the older Gent/Lady, as with my father's Jag E type OTS I look out of place and far too young (am 40) and he looks spot on (he's 70), I know it's a classic car which is different but I believe that stands for the XK8/XKR as well. Would be interested to know who is their target market/demographic is nowadays.

Would happily give a kidney for the supercharged 5.0-litre V8 F Type  though.  :drool: :drool:


Love that C Type Robin, had a ride (as a passenger obviously) in one on the way down to the LeMan classic some years back. Most expensive car I have ever sat in, was afraid to touch anything let alone ask for a go behind the wheel.  :notworthy:

 :drinking:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: RedRobin on September 20, 2012, 04:50:19 pm

Love that C Type Robin, had a ride (as a passenger obviously) in one on the way down to the LeMan classic some years back. Most expensive car I have ever sat in, was afraid to touch anything let alone ask for a go behind the wheel.  :notworthy:


....I took quite a few pics of that C-type at a local hillclimb recently and had a chat with the owner. Good to see such a car being used  :notworthy:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 04:51:23 pm
Don't get me wrong, it doesn't look that bad but it doesn't display any originality or signs of the thoroughbred that Jaguar once was.

I think it would be risky for Jaguar to play too heavily on its heritage, or try and embed visual cues that hark back to Jaguars of the past. It would be all too easy for the company to be seen to be jumping on the retro bandwagon (I'm thinking Beetle, Mini, Fiat 500 etc). They're certainly aiming for a younger market, and indeed people who have no knowledge of the beautiful cars they have been responsible for, yet alone memories of them. I'm 33 and to be honest I can't remember a car they have produced in my lifetime that was truly desirable (XJ220 excluded).

I think the Coupe will almost certainly look better than this.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: RedRobin on September 20, 2012, 05:07:37 pm
^^^^
33yo? Pah! You're just a boy!  :laugh: I could easily be your father!

As a teenager I had a close friend whose family owned a D-type. In those days the Police would literally stop you because they were enthusiastically interested in the car and not for speeding. I have a few stories about that car and also the full race 3.8 Jag saloon they had which was road legal. One of my best mate's first cars was a very stylish 1940's Jag. I drove it a few times and it was very nimble and exciting. But I digress.

Andrew, I agree about the retro aspect but because of Jaguars being in my earlier life, I just seek something more equivalent from them. But of course, they are not the same company any longer. Who owns Jaguar nowadays?
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 05:11:31 pm
It's part of Tata still I think...
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: rdfcpete on September 20, 2012, 05:58:45 pm
I was oggling' reading this in Evo. It looks gorgeous. There's little else to be said  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: Hurdy on September 20, 2012, 06:07:11 pm
^^^^
33yo? Pah! You're just a boy!  :laugh: I could easily be your Grandfather!
As a teenager I had a close friend whose family owned a D-type. In those days the Police would literally stop you because they were enthusiastically interested in the car and not for speeding. I have a few stories about that car and also the full race 3.8 Jag saloon they had which was road legal. One of my best mate's first cars was a very stylish 1940's Jag. I drove it a few times and it was very nimble and exciting. But I digress.

Andrew, I agree about the retro aspect but because of Jaguars being in my earlier life, I just seek something more equivalent from them. But of course, they are not the same company any longer. Who owns Jaguar nowadays?

Fixed that for you Robin :signLOL:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: RedRobin on September 20, 2012, 06:51:25 pm

Fixed that for you Robin :signLOL:


....Thank you, John - I knew someone would fix it for me  :laugh:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: rich83 on September 20, 2012, 07:40:29 pm
Jags dont do anything for me.... from a visual perspective.  :indifferent:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 07:44:20 pm
Jags dont do anything for me.... from a visual perspective.  :indifferent:

Even looking like this?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indiancarsbikes.in%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FJaguar-C-X16-Sportscar-Concept-4.jpg&hash=aa4de5b9d455ddff83bdabcb4be3179533872b98)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: rich83 on September 20, 2012, 07:51:26 pm
Yeah.... dont like.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: Hedge on September 20, 2012, 07:59:21 pm
Yeah.... dont like.

Nooooooooooo..... :surprised:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 08:04:05 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-3RzPyNVwy-c%2FT40VgOeX0xI%2FAAAAAAAAAsk%2FFx10leVaKbs%2Fs1600%2F2013-jaguar-f-type_800x0w.jpg&hash=0729556d75368a7671f809afc066f90f6ae599d5)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 08:05:25 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falt-a.bitg.net%2Fnightmobile%2Fcars%2Fimages2%2F170000%2F6000%2F0%2F176095.jpg&hash=7514ba825bd5ff72e190fcee2f85c3c548e9905d)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 08:06:58 pm
Tell me this does something to stir your loins...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstorage.canoe.ca%2Fv1%2Fblogs-prod-photos%2F0%2Ff%2Ff%2F6%2F3%2F0ff63e2ea46ee9527872f8ff927e1965.jpg%3Fstmp%3D1336403551&hash=2e52ec6e2665049b77361b126335f47fd3b3717a)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: rich83 on September 20, 2012, 08:09:13 pm
.... theres are hundreds of cars i would rather have.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 08:30:26 pm
I suspect you are having me on, but just in case, where would you place it in comparison to another current car? Is it for instance, better looking than an A5 Coupe, or worse?

By the way, I'm not saying you should like it, or that you're somehow mad for not liking it, just interested.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: rich83 on September 20, 2012, 08:35:10 pm
... no idea, too tired to trawl my brain to slot it in to other cars aesthetics... just saying i don't like it, none of them do anything for me....  :drinking:
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: MC71 on September 20, 2012, 08:47:16 pm
Andrew, the C-X16 pics you've posted  :notworthy:

Some bloke in my family has been whispering about these for a year now!!  :indifferent:

Nice nod to the past with the rear boot, like that, like that a lot.

 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1049.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs399%2Fmcaborn%2Fb752ed88c769ffe45df16099f4b68fc0_zps11f87af6.jpg&hash=46043b6775833acf001bf2c2b0f6d16cdeaa9b69)
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 08:52:16 pm
I think I'm just a sucker for the long bonnet, front-engined, cab right at the back look. I've always loved the Z3/Z4 Coupe, always preferred the V12 Ferrari's.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 20, 2012, 08:52:48 pm
Oh, and although it looks totally impractical, I do love that boot!
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: Nodz on September 20, 2012, 09:01:14 pm
What is it with new cars looking stunning in white lately?

Loving this car, I wasn't sure on the headlights at first but they have grown on me
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: keith on September 20, 2012, 09:57:51 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falt-a.bitg.net%2Fnightmobile%2Fcars%2Fimages2%2F170000%2F6000%2F0%2F176095.jpg&hash=7514ba825bd5ff72e190fcee2f85c3c548e9905d)

I like the new jags that one looks brilliant.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: RedRobin on September 20, 2012, 10:03:24 pm
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It certainly looks a whole lot better as a hard top.
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: Mk5 GTian on September 21, 2012, 05:23:15 pm

I'd rather have one of these....

http://www.kwecars.com/jaguar/range/KR.php

Beautiful saloon, massively upgraded to drive like a modern car. 500bhp with a Lysholm twin screw supercharger. Weinghs less than 2/3 of a current XJ. That'll do nicely....

I'd get the 80's pepperpots back on though!
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: andrewparker on September 21, 2012, 06:27:53 pm
Words fail me...
Title: Re: New Jaguar F-Type
Post by: dmac1969 on September 26, 2012, 06:01:51 pm
What a gorgeous looking car the F Type is , I'd have one in a heartbeat - lets hope they depreciate a bit , maybe I will hold on and get one of these instead of a Cayman S!