MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Gene Hunt on September 21, 2012, 07:20:31 pm
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9550745/Plea-to-ban-motorists-washing-their-cars-in-the-street.html
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Complete joke, mechanical car washes are crap and costs to much which is why people go to the local "pop up" car wash. I can see he why he wants regulation there but to go as far as banning people washing their own car at home is stupid.
On a side note, if this muppet manages to get this through what would it do to the detailers and the detailing industry?
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this already happens in germany, you have to go to special places to wash your car by yourself
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This part of the article got me,
"The ban on car washing in the street is in force in a number of German towns and cities, such as Dresden, where restrictions are in force to keep the sewerage system clean of the detritus generated by the activity."
Well since our local highway authority don't even clean the road gullies out to the point where the grass is growing out gully pot, i doubt any car washing detritus could get into the sewage system. :signLOL:
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Truly absurd. Agree with this completely:
“It is a ritual and a fundamental right up there with the Magna Carta,” said Edmund King, the AA’s president.
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this already happens in germany, you have to go to special places to wash your car by yourself
Yeah but only if you have on street parking, you can do what you like on you own property.
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I'll take it if we can drive on the motorways the same speed as the Germans too
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There is good reason for this proposal. Without an oil interceptor, oil, petrol/diesel etc. gets into the surface water drainage system. Not great. You may think it's no big deal, but it does cause pollution.
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this already happens in germany, you have to go to special places to wash your car by yourself
Yeah but only if you have on street parking, you can do what you like on you own property.
Even on your drive. Washing with chemicals (shampoo or anything) is verboten :sick:
Was fine while I lived on camp for 4 years but when I got a house in a mountain village it was a paranoid, checkin over the shoulder snow foam session and was lucky not to be fined
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This would just add to the multitude of reasons why I'm leaving this country as soon as I graduate
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this already happens in germany, you have to go to special places to wash your car by yourself
Yeah but only if you have on street parking, you can do what you like on you own property.
As long as water doesn't drain back into public sewers.
I remember my old man once washing the car on our property, a big drive miles away from the public road and someone still reported us lol
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I'll have a very dirty car.
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There is good reason for this proposal. Without an oil interceptor, oil, petrol/diesel etc. gets into the surface water drainage system. Not great. You may think it's no big deal, but it does cause pollution.
....But how does oil, petrol/diesel, get into the surface water drainage system when you are washing your car? :confused:
Surely there would be more likelihood of oil etc being dropped from long term parked cars (if they leak).
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Surely they'll never be able to bring that in!
Il be installing a bunded driveway if they do, see what they can say then!!
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There are 3 types of public sewers that may be under our roads:
Foul - foul & wastewater from WC, sinks, washing machines, dishwashers, etc. Discharges to a watercourse after processing at a treatment plant.
Surface - rainwater runoff from roofs and paved areas. Discharges directly to a watercourse.
Combined - foul, waste and surface water. Discharges to a watercourse after processing at a treatment plant. As far as I know about 2/3rds of our sewers are combined.
You would have to ask your local authority to determine what is under the street outside your house. If you snowfoam, wash etc. on the driveway, all that wastewater goes into the surface water system on your property, which then discharges to the public sewage system. If your street has a combined sewer it will be treated. If there are separate foul and surface water sewers, it will NOT be treated and will pollute a watercourse.
To be prudent you should at least empty your washbuckets into the gully where your kitchen or bathroom waste pipes discharge, NOT the gully under the rainwater pipes. You will then be sure that the water will be treated. This is also why councils can fine homeowners (quite heavily) who install dishwashers etc. and connect the waste pipe into a rainwater gully.
I assume in Germany they don't use combined sewers hence the strict rules.
....But how does oil, petrol/diesel, get into the surface water drainage system when you are washing your car? :confused:
It would be oil, coolant etc. that has dripped out of your poorly maintained car and is then carried into the surface water system by the washwater.Surely there would be more likelihood of oil etc being dropped from long term parked cars (if they leak).
This is then washed into the street gullies and into either a surface water or combined sewer. Street car washing just adds to the volume of contaminants possibly entering our watercourses if there isn't a combined sewer.
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Thanks for informing us about that, Tortaruga :happy2:
When the street storm drains were overwhelmed by 3 days of heavy non-stop rain a few months ago, human feces were spewed out of the manhole covers.
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I've just cleaned mine, sue me.
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human faeces were spewed out of the manhole covers.
Therefore you have a combined sewer. The systems are supposed to be designed to handle heavy weather, save for a once in 30 year event.
BTW I'm not a drainage engineer, but my work sometimes involves dealing with these things.
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I've just cleaned mine, sue me.
I'm not anti-washing at home. I just think it's important people know that there may be consequences to their actions. It's not illegal so you can do as you please!
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Round my way the road drains are combined with the sewage but the drains for the water from the roofs just go to soak aways so nothing gets put down there.
As for the dirty car comment further up I could see them bringing it illegal to have a dirty car like some eastern European countries
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Round my way the road drains are combined with the sewage but the drains for the water from the roofs just go to soak aways so nothing gets put down there.
As for the dirty car comment further up I could see them bringing it illegal to have a dirty car like some eastern European countries
Soakaways are used in most new developments-part of SUDS (Sustainable Urban Drainage System). The water is attenuated and slowly releases into the ground water - this helps prevent flooding. Still any crap you put down those outlets does probably find its way into a watercourse somewhere.
How do they measure the dirtiness of your car? Is there a 'filth index' or something?? :laugh:
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Mine goes straight into a combined waste system. The drive angles back towards the house and there is a custom drain to collect it and take it away. :happy2:
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a custom drain to collect it and take it away. :happy2:
Is that just an Aco channel or a special one that has a silt or grease trap that you have to empty out now and again? It's not an oil interceptor is it?