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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Black9 on September 29, 2012, 10:49:32 am
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Ok so after some thinking I'm looking for a new Job, but have no idea what I want to do :sad1:
I'm 23 but have no highers or degrees etc.. So would have to be something I'd need get training or work up to.
Bit of a random post I know but with the vast majority of forum member who prob work thought it may be worth a try. Any hell would be good :happy2:
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Ok so after some thinking I'm looking for a new Job, but have no idea what I want to do :sad1:
You must have some interests that take your fancy as no point going to do a job that you hate.
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What do you do currently?
Did you do a-levels, college or just gcse's?
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What's skills do you have?
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Learn a trade :happy2: electrician, carpenter, plumber, mechanic. Really wished I had learnt a trade when I left school.
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Did you do a-levels, college or just gcse's?
He mentioned Highers so will be in Scotland, where we have a slightly different system.
Black9 - have you got Standard Grades? There'll always requirements for sparkies, plumbers and related trades. Not the best time for training though.
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Some of the best paying jobs going around here for not having a degree are for welders or machinists
Plumbers also make good money but it is hard to find an apprenticeship
I'm looking into doing night courses to become a welder and hopefully get a semi skilled job to work towards being coded
I really wish I went to uni as I'm now at the stage in my job that I can't go any further, times are changing my work won't promote anyone from within anymore, they would rather give management jobs to people fresh out of uni with no experience.
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Forget electrician, plumbing, gas, no ones hiring, let alone training.
What about offshore work, or plane technician.
If you have no kids etc, why not join the RAF and get some engineering qualifications?
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If you have no kids etc, why not join the RAF and get some engineering qualifications?
Wouldnt bother with the RAF, promotion is beyond SLOW!!!!
But if your after training as an engineer, then the forces is a great option (Army rather than RAF though :wink:).
Full pay whilst training, pay rises every year, loads of option for advancing your technical qualifications (I got paid full wage to do an Electrical Engineering degree at nil cost to myself), plus once your trained up, and have served your retention period, get out and hunt for a job in the civvy street.
Loads of guys i know are doing or have done this.
I have a few mates working on windfarms at the moment, great money as well.
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I think that's a good shout and the safest bet in the current time.
Didn't know RAF was slow, tried to join up at 17 but that was taking a while.
Wouldn't mind starting at the bottom learning to be a plane technician then once I have my foot in the door, leaving the RAF and start to specialise in avionics, they seem to get a decent wedge especially as planes get more advanced
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I did a 4 year aprenticeship with an airline to become an aircraft engineer, so its not a quick process. The money hasn't really risen at a decent rate over the years either because everybody wants to fly for peanuts so all the airlines are cutting each others throats on prices. This leaves less money to pay the engineers, also its all shift work as when the aircarft are on the ground they want them working 24hrs a day :smiley:
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Offshore work is a bit of a con as you have to pay £800 for Survival and MIST courses before your application will be accepted,
Then there are thousands of people applying for any of the roustabout jobs of which they are not willing take on anyone that does not have offshore experience.
Unless you have a trade or an engineering degree I wouldn't pay out for any of the courses in the hope of getting a job offshore.
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With the economy picking up slightly now, there are a lot of trainee recruitment positions going.
Regretting that Economics degree I did now as they'd rather have someone with abit of nouse rather than the quals. Seems abit of a waste! :grin::jumpmove:
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Offshore work is a bit of a con as you have to pay £800 for Survival and MIST courses before your application will be accepted,
Then there are thousands of people applying for any of the roustabout jobs of which they are not willing take on anyone that does not have offshore experience.
Unless you have a trade or an engineering degree I wouldn't pay out for any of the courses in the hope of getting a job offshore.
Generally, to get a job offshore - as in rig crew - you have to be time served in a trade, or like you say an engineer of sorts.
To get a few trips in servicing over summer you can blag it a bit and take some short courses, as I have seen, but the opportunities are narrowing in that respect.
I actually have an engineering degree but don't particularly use it for what I do, however having it has undoubtedly opened doors for me.
The problem is that it is portrayed as being so easy as getting a job offshore, especially so by training providers (who are raking it in). A lot of people give up because they can't commit to 'getting a start' and have bills to pay in the meantime. But even so, you have to have something to offer, skills wise.
There always will be a requirement for good welders, electricians, pipefitters and mechanically minded people. One of my regrets was not doing Mechanical Engineering at university instead.
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As others have said about degrees, I don't use mine for what I do.
You need to start at the bottom and work your way up (this is never easy but will come with dedication and hard work). I've jumped from jobs to jobs as i've never known what I wanted to do. I'm currently in a job or career should I say that I like. I was given an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands. Since April they have put me through various licenses and a Managing Safely IOSH course and I have been promoted. Hard work will pay off.
Don't go down the degree route unless you really know what you want to do and it will directly contribute towards getting started in that industry.
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I was in south Germany recently. Every second car was a Merc/Porsche. Saw an R, Rocco R and awesomely a red SLS :drool:
In other words, no recession. Learn a bit of the lingo and you'll be laughing. You might even get a job in Wolfsburg; Mk7 assembly line? :smiley:
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I was in south Germany recently. Every second car was a Merc/Porsche. Saw an R, Rocco R and awesomely a red SLS :drool:
In other words, no recession. Learn a bit of the lingo and you'll be laughing. You might even get a job in Wolfsburg; Mk7 assembly line? :smiley:
JCT600 owner has a red SLS amongst various other cars.
If only eh...
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I work offshore and agree with your comments about paying for courses. I'm lucky to have a trade as an electrician but paid for all my courses myself. I invested almost 4k and applied for easily 200 jobs a month for 12 months, I avoided the hire and fire agency's although they are the best way to get a start. Polite persistence is the key, I worked ad-hoc for 14 months and at times it was very tough being away for 21 days and home for only 5 before away for another 18. My lucky break came earlier on this year, I now have a permanent contract and rotation with a major drilling company. It's taken over 3 years to get here but my point of saying this is that it can be done.
Without any trade behind you it's pointless doing a few electrical courses and looking for work (in general not just offshore) for offshore there are lots of other areas one example being rope access NDT work, or coatings and boasting work, inspection reports. Even a steward/catering position pays very well. Getting a start as a deck hand or rousti is very hard but being in Scotland helps, never say never.
The point to all my waffle is that you really can achieve anything but it doesn't happen overnight and takes a lot of dedication.
As for onshore work follow an interest and depending on your personal situation, become self employed? you certainly have age on your side and there is nothing wrong with wanting to better yourself in life.
I should also say aim to do a job doing something YOU like, I got stuck with a job working for a company that I grew to hate for way too long, it made me a bad person in the end. I genuinely have always been fascinated by offshore work and have loved every minuite of it, that really helps when you think I'll possibly be doing it for the rest of my working life.
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Just remembered I posted this, thanks for all the replies. Currently work with family in property etc.. Live in Scotland and have only GCSEs. Fitness interests me so I've looked into becoming a personal trainer but with training costing £3500-4000 it's not cheap & they don't even give a basic salary. Just £30-35 PH per client
As for a trade I can't really afford to take time off work and train as I need the £££ and finding free training ATM would be hard as I'm over the 21 year old limit for training such as gas, plumbing etc...
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My best mate invested in a Plumbing Franchise last year as a Gas Engineer (He fits/checks/safety tests gas a elec appliances), they trained him over 12-14 weeks and put him through all his Gas-safe (New version of the old "Corgi") exams and now he mainly does safety checks and servicing (legal requirement for landlords with rental properties once per year per property), he does do central heating installations but does not bother with regular plumbing stuff like leaky pipes etc, they book all his work for him and he does 4 or 5 calls per day, first few months were a little slow but now (6 months later) he is earning about £1250 a week average. I cannot remember exact costs but I think he paid about £20-25K to do it all, he was happy with that as he has already paid back half of it and reckons he will be free and clear by March and all profit then, happy for him :happy2:
He keeps on at me about getting trained as a Gas fitter so we can start our own business in a few years (when he has a big enough client base), our own business is something we have talked about doing for 10+ years but as they say "never the time was right", might get round to it in another year or 2 as I have plenty of free time with current business :happy2:.
Seeing him next weekend so chances are he will be on at me again about doing it :signLOL: