MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: ArildStavrum on October 11, 2012, 08:11:17 pm
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I have had a search but couldn't find the answer or a discussion.
I'm going to go stage 1 and want a new intake as well. Now there are so many to choose from but some look completely different to others, as in pipes etc that go up round the back of the engine. Some just seem to replace the standard intake and that's that.
Wondered if anyone can explain? Ideally I'd like to keep my engine cover on too but not sure that is possible.
As per usual any advice is gratefully received....
Willing to spend 250 too!!
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I think you may have to spend a little more to get one of the better intakes, unless buying second hand. If you wish to retain your engine cover then you will almost certainly have to mod it to fit with an intake. You could go panel filter in your existing engine cover but you dont get much in the way of gains. There are plenty of intakes out there such as itg, evoms, forge twintake, etc . I have had the itg and just cant get on with the looks of the thing, although very good gains are made. The twintake is a nice looker as i think the evoms is also as its one piece right up to the maf, also good gains. If you want something a little cheaper theres the neuspeed, not sure what sort of gains though. Good luck in your search. :happy2:
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Thanks mate, I think I'm going to go for the carbonio or carbonspeed intake as they both don't effect the engine cover and are within budget.
Any thoughts on either of those?
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Small selection for you and the engine cover can be easily modified to fit inside any intake and a how to at the bottom of this list...
Check out Forge Motorsport for their Twintake, reviewed on the forum by RR (dated 2009)
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9988.0.html
Or the ITG Maxogen, reviewed by the Boss man (SteveP) (dated 2009)
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9698.0.html
Or the Volant system, new (ish) system from the US of A (dated 2012)
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,43434.0.html
And an old thread about Panel Filters (dated 2009)
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1735.0.html
Very useful Info on all the above, via forum member john_o (dated 2009)
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7279.0.html
And that "how to" on modified engine cover..
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11138.0.html
Hope this helps.
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Great, that's a great help as usual.
If I go for the carbonio or carbon speed I will also get the itg panel filter.
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Great, that's a great help as usual.
If I go for the carbonio or carbon speed I will also get the itg panel filter.
To be honest it is the engine cover that needs replacing, the Carbonio or Carbonspeed are more for looks. You can buy a TTS engine cover for not much money that fits with the 'proper' intakes.
This is a good option to be honest, I have one on my GTI at the moment as I am only going stage 1 with this car.
http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/Neuspeed-P%252dFlo-Air-Intake-Kit-%252d2.0T-K03.html
Or if you have the Pirelli/ED30
http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/Neuspeed-P%252dFlo-Air-Intake-Kit-%252d2.0T-Edition-30%7B47%7DS3%7B47%7DTTS%7B47%7DCupra.html
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Ah so the carbon speed and carbonio will have little effect?
So it's over 200 bucks for very little return?
I thought that if I got a stage 1 revo remap I should also get a new intake at the same time, or is that daft?
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As MC71 said, if you want performance benefits better to get an intake, if you want some engine "Bling" the Carbonio will be fine for that but don't expect much in way of power gains as the main restrictions are in the engine cover/air filter and not so much the front side where air goes in :happy2:
For stage 1 you probably dont "need" an intake but if you plan on going stage 2 or above it will be beneficial/required.
Have a look at your options, what you wish to spend and what you ultimately want from it and I am sure you will be ok. :happy2:
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Ah so the carbon speed and carbonio will have little effect?
So it's over 200 bucks for very little return?
I thought that if I got a stage 1 revo remap I should also get a new intake at the same time, or is that daft?
I have the Carbon Speed intake on my car and the only thing i noticed was a deeper sounding engine tone...
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cheers folks! the garage who is carrying out the remap (indy specialist) have offered me a forge panel filter FOC so I will stick with that just now!
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Being fair I am Stage2+ and still using the engine cover with a panel filter and have no issues. I had an intake but I didnt like the loss in low down torque it gave. So i switched back to the OE engine cover and find the car is far more usable on the road. Intakes move the power band further up the rev range and if you look at what rev range you normally use when driving in traffic. Its usually below 3000 rpm and I couldnt stand the loss in torque with the intake fitted. It made my car more sluggish to drive around town. It does help with peak power when using the full power but I dont use it that much so it was a waste of time for me.
An intake wont make a massive difference in time and acceleration or indeed power when comparing similar spec cars on the road. You are talking around (give or take) 15bhp peak power more and a few more in the mid range. But nothing to write home about. You would be better spending the money on a downpipe and going stage 2.
Rtech Nick says that on a K03 the OE engine cover is good for 275 to 280bhp. If you look at the ED30, they make good power with the same OE engine cover due to turbine volumetric efficiency and increased flow outward bounds. The ED30s tune to 300bhp with ease with just the stock paper filters in place. If your going HPFP then a lot of the power gain comes from combustion efficiency and room to run more timing. Id save money and go with a HPFP or a downpipe instead.