MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: PDT on October 12, 2012, 04:10:55 pm
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Anyone on here using it?
Did some testing today on a 135i, with stage 2 mapping it runs 400bhp/400ftlb. With meth it makes 500ftlb and an extra 40bhp, with a less restrictive inlet (coming soon) we expect peak figures of 500ftlb and 470bhp.
Intake temps down by 30 degrees and EGT's 140 degrees lower.
Not bad for a £200 mod :laugh:
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yea loads of peeps run it here :happy2:
i run it pure sometimes :evilgrin: norm 50/50
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Had it on my Polo GTI and soon to be on the Golf R.
Great mod for the outlay. :happy2:
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Made my own kit up once with good results then bought a devils own kit
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this will probably be one of the last mods i do purely due to financial reasons and the fact i now live 220mi away from the car and it doesn't get driven regularly.
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Anyone on here using it?
Did some testing today on a 135i, with stage 2 mapping it runs 400bhp/400ftlb. With meth it makes 500ftlb and an extra 40bhp, with a less restrictive inlet (coming soon) we expect peak figures of 500ftlb and 470bhp.
Intake temps down by 30 degrees and EGT's 140 degrees lower.
Not bad for a £200 mod :laugh:
Nice figures Dave, hope youre not going to push that car too far as I want to buy it off you one day :laugh:
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Anyone on here using it?
Did some testing today on a 135i, with stage 2 mapping it runs 400bhp/400ftlb. With meth it makes 500ftlb and an extra 40bhp, with a less restrictive inlet (coming soon) we expect peak figures of 500ftlb and 470bhp.
Intake temps down by 30 degrees and EGT's 140 degrees lower.
Not bad for a £200 mod :laugh:
any downsides/risks Dave in your opinion?
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I have waited and watched loads of kits being fitted to the same engines in the USA, so far no major component or engine failures reported. As long as you have a flow meter to monitor things and pull out boost and timing if meth stops flowing, all seems fine.
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Its hardly a £200 mod is it?
£300 for a decent kit and quite a bit on fitting costs as a lot of trim has to be removed to get the controller in and setup time, say £250.
Oh an you'll need a spacer from INA at £75 to protect the plastic on the TB.
But what a mod, I'm going for it next year.
With V Power your looking at an octane rating of 109?
Like you say cooler intake temps, like driving on a cold winters morning every day.
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buy the kit from the USA, then its a £200 mod. Its nothing more complex than a high pressure water pump, pulse solenoid and a simple boost vs flow controller.
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What kit would that be?
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Where from in the USA?
:happy2:
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buy the kit from the USA, then its a £200 mod. Its nothing more complex than a high pressure water pump, pulse solenoid and a simple boost vs flow controller.
What's the point of going cheap when you can get the AEM kit for £300.
Do you really want to risk a failure when you have mapped up to it on settings 9-9-9 :scared:
With the AEM you can use one of the wires to cut the N75 if you run it of water/meth so it defaults to waste gate boost.
You really need that spacer too, to protect your throttle body.
I personally think its best to spend a little more.
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I spoke to Keith@APR before buying mine and he recommended against buying any of these all singing all dancing "adaptive and progressive" WMI kits, because the ECU has to permanently try and adjust fuel trims etc trying to second guess the WMI controller as it alters its flow rates throughout the rev band.
He recommended to install a simple "basic boost operated" setup, so i bought the Devils Own Base kit(6-30)psi which including delivery and 4 quarts tank came to £257.
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buy the kit from the USA, then its a £200 mod. Its nothing more complex than a high pressure water pump, pulse solenoid and a simple boost vs flow controller.
What's the point of going cheap when you can get the AEM kit for £300.
Do you really want to risk a failure when you have mapped up to it on settings 9-9-9 :scared:
With the AEM you can use one of the wires to cut the N75 if you run it of water/meth so it defaults to waste gate boost.
You really need that spacer too, to protect your throttle body.
I personally think its best to spend a little more.
I looked at various kits but the CoolingMist kit I chose uses very high quality components and has proven that it deserves its place in the market.
http://www.coolingmist.com/
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Have you got any before and after graphs Dave? To show the increases across the rev range?
If someone was to run the meth all/most of the time is it worth upgrading the intercooler on a mk5 GTI as well?
On the US forums a couple of years ago a few were fitting the snow kits and using the washer reservoir asthe tank. I didnt keep an eye on the long term outcome. Have you heard of this being done or wouldyou not recommend it?
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Dave, i presume you mapped the car to get those gains, or is that literally from bolting it on?
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I think James rr'd at 398bhp with 2+ Ko4. :scared:
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One day for me, bang for bucks it's worth every penny. :happy2:
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Dave, i presume you mapped the car to get those gains, or is that literally from bolting it on?
Yes, it runs on a specific 'meth' map with extra boost (13psi stg2 upped to 17psi on meth) the meth only sprays at high load when under higher boost values.
I'm using the washer tank as a reservoir with 50/50 meth mix. In short squirts it also leans the windows very well. Most high quality winter screen washes have around 40% methanol in them.
I will dyno it in stg2, then stg2 with no extra boost and stg2 with the extra 4psi and post the results.
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Ha just seen this. Just finished fitting mine tonight. Gonna see whats what tomorrow after work. :driver: