MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: rich83 on October 30, 2012, 09:47:14 pm

Title: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on October 30, 2012, 09:47:14 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304336_4879532506063_1576609918_n.jpg)

Stock engine... just an aftermarket air filter.

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: damoegan on October 30, 2012, 09:51:43 pm
Well done  :happy2:

Will at P-Torque often gets 310 from the mk2 Leon Cupra's, too  :smiley:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: MC71 on October 30, 2012, 10:06:59 pm
Bloody hell, that's as good (I mean better) as most Stage 2 generic maps!  :congrats: :congrats:

Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on October 30, 2012, 10:10:11 pm
Welcome to an exclusive club  :happy2:

Great results for stage 1. What made you change from Revo??

Gray
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on October 30, 2012, 10:31:28 pm
I have not changed.... thats someone elses car. (sorry i should have made that clear)
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on October 31, 2012, 07:29:25 am
I have not changed.... thats someone elses car. (sorry i should have made that clear)

Ah right, it's easy to get the wrong idea on tinternet  :wink:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2012, 09:10:14 am

I have not changed.... thats someone elses car. (sorry i should have made that clear)


....So the big question is whether this is making you think of changing from Revo to R-Tech?
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on October 31, 2012, 10:05:45 am

I have not changed.... thats someone elses car. (sorry i should have made that clear)


....So the big question is whether this is making you think of changing from Revo to R-Tech?

Not really. I'm happy with the way my car performs and the support that REVO have offered me so far.
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: Hedge on October 31, 2012, 10:35:09 am
I see a but there Rich.  :grin:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on October 31, 2012, 11:06:56 am
There is no but really Ian...  :smiley:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2012, 11:43:13 am

I have not changed.... thats someone elses car. (sorry i should have made that clear)


....So the big question is whether this is making you think of changing from Revo to R-Tech?


Not really. I'm happy with the way my car performs and the support that REVO have offered me so far.


....I'm the same. I have massive respect for Nick @ R-Tech but I am totally happy with Revo so far and JKM as their agent. Mine doesn't need fixing but if it did, JKM Jim'll fix it. [cue for that pic?]
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: chungster on October 31, 2012, 07:04:52 pm
Tempting  :wink:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: Andy on October 31, 2012, 07:42:22 pm
If Nick was closer i would have another one of his maps with out hesitation
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on October 31, 2012, 11:45:32 pm
...... Tempting for what reason lee?

Unfortunately I don't have huge "lets see who's map is best" fund. If I did I would do some experimentation.

Like I've said. 289 on DD rollers is pretty good in my opinion. Not spikey and a  Very smooth graph as anyone is welcome to see.

I'm speaking to Paul at revo tomorrow RE:this.
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: Saintsteve on November 01, 2012, 07:16:52 am
Tempting  :wink:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: RedRobin on November 01, 2012, 09:06:09 am
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I think that "who's map is best" is like every other question which asks which is 'best' - It's somewhat subjective in that what's "best" for one person isn't necessarily "best" for another.

For example, I think that R-Tech's mapping of James's GTI is awesome but, although I haven't driven it (and a passenger ride wouldn't tell me), looking at the plotted curves I think I prefer the curves and balance of my Revo 2 with less maximum bhp. I am of course thinking in terms of practical road use.
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: Dan648v on November 01, 2012, 09:41:52 am
Is that graph scaled right?

My understanding is that power and torque should cross at 5250rpm...
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 01, 2012, 09:53:45 am
Is that graph scaled right?

My understanding is that power and torque should cross at 5250rpm...

Because the torque and power axis rise at a different scale the torque will not cross the power at 5250 rpm.

However, it doesn't matter, because if you look at the graph, the power and torque at 5250 rpm are at the same value, so theoretically they would cross at 5250 with identical power/torque scales
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on November 01, 2012, 09:54:15 am
Is that graph scaled right?

My understanding is that power and torque should cross at 5250rpm...

Its just because the bhp and torque scaling is different...

Beaten to it...  :laugh:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on November 01, 2012, 12:17:35 pm
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I think that "who's map is best" is like every other question which asks which is 'best' - It's somewhat subjective in that what's "best" for one person isn't necessarily "best" for another.

For example, I think that R-Tech's mapping of James's GTI is awesome but, although I haven't driven it (and a passenger ride wouldn't tell me), looking at the plotted curves I think I prefer the curves and balance of my Revo 2 with less maximum bhp. I am of course thinking in terms of practical road use.

Just to add a bit more to that Robin, Nick can set up your car to be an exact replica of a Revo curve (if thats what you were after) as it is a true custom map. You could draw a curve on a piece of paper, hand it to nick and he will reproduce that in your map (within the limits of your car's hardware though)

Or you could take it for a drive and advise Nick of where you want a bit more oomph or a less agressive spool etc and he will make the changes accordingly.

Theres an infinite range of adjustability throughout the rev range with mapping a car, ranging from all out power (like James) or just a 10bhp increase across the range if you really wanted, your not tied down to following a particular curve.

I'll shut up now as i'm starting to sound like R-Tech's chief salesman  :grin:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: RedRobin on November 01, 2012, 12:29:44 pm
^^^^
That's useful to know but R-Tech is much too far away from me and I'm very happy indeed with Revo and JKM. It works well so I won't mend it.
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on November 01, 2012, 12:40:56 pm
^^^^
That's useful to know but R-Tech is much too far away from me and I'm very happy indeed with Revo and JKM. It works well so I won't mend it.

Totally agree, it wouldnt be worthwhile to you. I just wanted to get the point across that a custom map really is totally customisable to your driving style and doesnt have to be a particular curve :happy2:

Gray
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: chungster on November 01, 2012, 06:00:02 pm
Tempting  :wink:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

 :popcornsoda:

 :P

Rich.....only messing / carrying on some banter from FB.

The car has over 300 lb ft of torque in the mid range. I don't need anymore even though it didn't quite reach the same bhp figures as a run at SRR back in April with the old map. The car drives lovely, curves are smooth, and it goes well.  :happy2:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: wigit on November 01, 2012, 06:09:11 pm
Tempting  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netposse.info%2Fforms%2FsupporterofSHIred3X172dpi.jpg&hash=6f28ebd0b5e69b06dc804c74769515680f0366ff)

 :innocent:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: Dan.b on November 01, 2012, 08:45:55 pm
I really can't wait to get my GTi done now after reading this! Just hope my clutch holds up when it's done!!
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: rich83 on November 02, 2012, 03:15:52 pm
Tempting  :wink:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

 :popcornsoda:

 :P

Rich.....only messing / carrying on some banter from FB.

The car has over 300 lb ft of torque in the mid range. I don't need anymore even though it didn't quite reach the same bhp figures as a run at SRR back in April with the old map. The car drives lovely, curves are smooth, and it goes well.  :happy2:

Same here lee. My revo graph is a smooth as a babies bum!

Popping in to revo hq when I next can to do a bit of testing....
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: E30Dom on November 02, 2012, 03:19:46 pm
311bhp on R-techs, so 290ish on JKM's heart breakers... So about right :P

Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on November 02, 2012, 10:38:34 pm
311bhp on R-techs, so 290ish on JKM's heart breakers... So about right :P



Didn't the two dyno's measure up on James's car?  :wink:
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: driver rider on November 03, 2012, 08:43:29 pm
It's a shame Rtech is so far from me.  Once I get my exhaust fitted and intake.  He will be my man! 
Title: Re: R-Tech - 311bhp from stage 1 Edition 30
Post by: driver rider on November 03, 2012, 08:47:34 pm
It's a shame Rtech is so far from me.  Once I get my exhaust fitted and intake.  He will be my man!  I've pencilled in January.