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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 12:43:45 pm

Title: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 12:43:45 pm
Just seen this from our APR Australia.

Seems their Golf R has literally wiped the floor with the competition, including 3 other Golf R's.

http://goapr.com.au/htc12.html#/4 (http://goapr.com.au/htc12.html#/4)

Why dont we have magazines doing challenges like this in the UK??

Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: andrewparker on October 31, 2012, 12:59:46 pm


Why dont we have magazines doing challenges like this in the UK??



How many people would be interested in it though? It's pretty niche...
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 01:08:08 pm
You say that, but when you consider how big the Japanese, VAG, french and ford tuning scenes are, if they were to combine cars in an "equivalent" set of groups i think there would be alot of interest
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Hedge on October 31, 2012, 01:12:37 pm
So how does this translate into the real world?

I don't see huge numbers of customers flocking to their nearest APR dealer and I don't see APR having much interest in anything other than big turbo specials so far.  :indifferent:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2012, 01:19:13 pm
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Without bothering to read the whole magazine article, does APR walk away from this being $75,000 richer?

How was that prize money raised? - It's a lot of dosh.
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 01:29:01 pm
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Without bothering to read the whole magazine article, does APR walk away from this being $75,000 richer?

How was that prize money raised? - It's a lot of dosh.

think you misread that, for a tuning company to enter a car into that category it had to be sub $75k including car and ALL mods.

So how does this translate into the real world?

I don't see huge numbers of customers flocking to their nearest APR dealer and I don't see APR having much interest in anything other than big turbo specials so far.  :indifferent:


Ian, i merely posted the link for those interested in reading it.  Theres alot of TFSI big turbo work going on across the forum recently, so id imagine there's a few guys on here who would read it.

Not wanting to get into the old debate, because i agree, its boring but would you have the same response if it was REVO?
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Hedge on October 31, 2012, 01:37:09 pm
Probably Sy as it doesn't relate to anything relevant for me.

I prefer stuff that exists in the real world for Joe Public not one offs.
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 01:39:22 pm
Probably Sy as it doesn't relate to anything relevant for me.

I prefer stuff that exists in the real world for Joe Public not one offs.

I agree, i think that sort of power is pointless, Ive said the same thing to tfsi_mike many times with his car(Because we all know he will go BT eventually  :grin:)

Still like reading about it though, impressive stuff for a Golf!!
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2012, 01:40:22 pm
^^^^
Thanks for clarifying that, Sy - Yes, I had another OAP moment and misread it.  :happy2:

Even though I have no interest in fitting a bigger turbo, not even a K04, I think that threads about it are very interesting and anyway, it's easy not to read threads if not of any interest. So thanks for posting  :happy2:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: graeme on October 31, 2012, 01:41:05 pm
it says that the cost was $99,280 including the car... thats not sub 75k ?
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 01:46:04 pm
it says that the cost was $99,280 including the car... thats not sub 75k ?

guess its the car and mods then lol.  :ashamed:

Its not relative to our market UK market anyway, Australia pay MUCH more for their cars than we do in the UK
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 31, 2012, 01:53:02 pm
Probably Sy as it doesn't relate to anything relevant for me.

I prefer stuff that exists in the real world for Joe Public not one offs.

I agree, i think that sort of power is pointless, Ive said the same thing to tfsi_mike many times with his car(Because we all know he will go BT eventually  :grin:)

Still like reading about it though, impressive stuff for a Golf!!

 :ashamed: 
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 31, 2012, 02:11:58 pm
Just had a skim through (so apologies if I missed something) but there is no details of each car's mods and half them seem to be missing from the list of results  :confused:
Also, it says the Golf R is 234KW (which equated to around 314bhp IIRC), yet it runs 11's?!?!?! I call BS!!! Unless of course it's just a Golf R shell?

With the sort of money that is spoken about in this test, the results are pretty lame to be honest (with exception of the Golf R). I assume the other Golf R's were manual also (judging by their 0-60 times)? As we all know how easy it is to get daft 0-60 figures from modded .:R's with DSG.
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: graeme on October 31, 2012, 02:30:37 pm
Just had a skim through (so apologies if I missed something) but there is no details of each car's mods and half them seem to be missing from the list of results  :confused:
Also, it says the Golf R is 234KW (which equated to around 314bhp IIRC), yet it runs 11's?!?!?! I call BS!!! Unless of course it's just a Golf R shell?

With the sort of money that is spoken about in this test, the results are pretty lame to be honest (with exception of the Golf R). I assume the other Golf R's were manual also (judging by their 0-60 times)? As we all know how easy it is to get daft 0-60 figures from modded .:R's with DSG.


Again its says its stage 4 .. im guessing stage 4 on a golf r is around 500-600bhp ?
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: graeme on October 31, 2012, 02:34:16 pm
  :happy2:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 31, 2012, 02:39:24 pm
Just had a skim through (so apologies if I missed something) but there is no details of each car's mods and half them seem to be missing from the list of results  :confused:
Also, it says the Golf R is 234KW (which equated to around 314bhp IIRC), yet it runs 11's?!?!?! I call BS!!! Unless of course it's just a Golf R shell?

With the sort of money that is spoken about in this test, the results are pretty lame to be honest (with exception of the Golf R). I assume the other Golf R's were manual also (judging by their 0-60 times)? As we all know how easy it is to get daft 0-60 figures from modded .:R's with DSG.


254kW WHP though.  Its putting down slower times than the APRUK stage 3 Golf R and thats about 50-60hp down on the stage 3+ cars of Dan and steve.

Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 31, 2012, 02:41:15 pm
Just had a skim through (so apologies if I missed something) but there is no details of each car's mods and half them seem to be missing from the list of results  :confused:
Also, it says the Golf R is 234KW (which equated to around 314bhp IIRC), yet it runs 11's?!?!?! I call BS!!! Unless of course it's just a Golf R shell?

With the sort of money that is spoken about in this test, the results are pretty lame to be honest (with exception of the Golf R). I assume the other Golf R's were manual also (judging by their 0-60 times)? As we all know how easy it is to get daft 0-60 figures from modded .:R's with DSG.


254kW WHP though.  Its putting down slower times than the APRUK stage 3 Golf R and thats about 50-60hp down on the stage 3+ cars of Dan and steve.



That would explain things a little better then..  :wink: Shame everything else was poor though.
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: graeme on October 31, 2012, 02:46:57 pm
It is not great considering that they are running 104 octane fuel  :scared:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Top Cat on October 31, 2012, 06:33:10 pm
See sy! You thought this thread wouldn't be interesting.    :driver:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: chungster on October 31, 2012, 07:08:01 pm
MT Street Radials

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mickeythompsontires.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fet_street_radial_a.jpg&hash=1a1106dffdc1e4aecd546aeb7ff4e50f5a090664)

Should get you into 10s I'd have thought With those on :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Poverty on October 31, 2012, 08:03:03 pm
Uk Apr stage 3 golf R does mid 11's

Aussie Apr stage 4 golf R does 10's

Apr stge 2 plus golf r does low 12'a
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: Hurdy on October 31, 2012, 08:25:58 pm
Uk Apr stage 3 golf R does mid 11's

Aussie Apr stage 4 golf R does 10's

Apr stge 2 plus golf r does low 12'a

GIAC Golf R is also low 12's at stage 2+ equivalent

My Golf R on Revo stage 2+ (limited torque) did a 12.6 at full weight and normal tyres.

I'd say most stage 2+ software and a DSG map will give a Golf R DSG low 12's on the strip.

Adding WMI gets you into the high 11's.

Just a Stage 1 tune and an intake will get you into the high 12's :happy2:

With the Golf R and DSG it is almost as much about the DSG map settings as it is the engine tune. :driver:
Title: Re: APR Golf R wins sub $75k performance challenge
Post by: tony_danza on November 01, 2012, 10:29:45 am
No matter who the tuner is, all they've won is the "who can throw the most amount of money at a car, and bend the rules in their favour" prize.

These are meaningless.