MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: RedRobin on October 31, 2012, 09:03:45 pm
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BBC2 now.........
Or if you missed it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nqccq/How_Safe_are_Britains_Roads_Episode_1/
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Good work robin
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Quite enjoyed this. :happy2:
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Me too. Didn't know what it would be like but it was very interesting, covered a lot of aspects, and did it well. Next episode should be good as it deals with drivers.
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Not very.
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Im always making this face...so many noobs :fighting:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nqccq/How_Safe_are_Britains_Roads_Episode_1/
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I'm half way through and I think that it's mostly utter garbage so far. If you don't maintain your tyres (or any other part of your car) and you have a crash there is no excuse - it is your own fault. I also do not buy that raising the speed limit will be dangerous - maybe if the government focused on getting rid of idiots off the road instead of focussing on speeding fine targets our roads would be safer.
Also I'd like to point out that cancer and cardiovascular disease deaths (which are mostly preventable) kill as many people per DAY as who die on UK roads per YEAR. Hence I do not care much for road safety. If you want to save lives your energy is better focussed somewhere else.
Edit: the 2nd half was slightly more bearable, but I think i'll give next week's a miss.
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I'd love to see members on here with the camera device in their modded cars, it would crash the server :driver:!
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I think if I was flattened by a nutter driver I wouldn't be thinking glad the government spent money trying to get people to jog more and eat lettuce.
Road deaths are too high. 30 minutes in a car in a driving test and you are good in all conditions for the next 50 years ? More like Finland. Night driving, skid control, motorway all part of their test.
The speed limits should go up but in the right places.
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The problem with Britains's roads is not Britain's roads. It's the fact that everyone thinks they're a good driver. The truth is that those who proclaim it the loudest are usually the worst culprits.
My solution? Don't spend a penny more on signage, just decent surfacing. Then charge all drivers £150 every five years for compulsory retests. That'll stop us slipping into bad habits and clear the roads of those who would be better off getting a minicab on their once-a-week trip to Aldi.
Now my challenge to you there, nodding, is - take an advanced driving assessment.
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Road deaths are too high. 30 minutes in a car in a driving test and you are good in all conditions for the next 50 years ? More like Finland. Night driving, skid control, motorway all part of their test.
This. It's far too easy to get a driving licence. No compulsory motorway lessons or tests.
Sure, you'll have perfected a 3-point turn, but that's not going to kill anyone. Not being able to control a skid at 70mph will though.
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I agree wholeheartedly with those who say that the key to less road accidents is driver education and teaching car control.
I think that the programme was quite well balanced and covered a lot of aspects objectively. The prog presenter Justin Rowlatt is clearly a typical driver with very bad habits but Anita Rani loves driving and so far appears very much better.
Something that came across very strongly indeed was how far too many drivers stay much too close to the vehicle in front and also don't look far enough ahead. Those are two very very easy habits to break and would result in less accidents.
Unfortunately the standard Advanced Driving courses include eco-crap about always selecting high gears etc whereas the course I went on for performance car driving taught the opposite regarding gear selection.
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Yes I need to get my advanced done. As for gear high selection ? I think VW thought of that and put D on the shifter for "driving test" and the box selects the high gears as required. :-)
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Yes I need to get my advanced done. As for gear high selection ? I think VW thought of that and put D on the shifter for "driving test" and the box selects the high gears as required. :-)
IAM tell you to override an automatic transmission where possible to improve fuel economy - or at least my instructor did.
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Yes I need to get my advanced done. As for gear high selection ? I think VW thought of that and put D on the shifter for "driving test" and the box selects the high gears as required. :-)
IAM tell you to override an automatic transmission where possible to improve fuel economy - or at least my instructor did.
....My instructor taught me (a full day in my car) to use D (automatic) as little as possible but to always select the optimum gear for either quickly braking or quickly accelerating as needed. He is qualified as both an Advanced Instructor and a Police Instructor.
Driving safely and driving either economically or for the sake of the environment, are totally unrelated. This is where I strongly disagree with IAM.
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I think our roads would be a lot safer if people paid more attention to actually driving rather than looking at a phone !!!! txting, facebook, twitter, etc.. I do a lot of driving and being that bit higher in a van the amount of people i see with a phone on there lap is scary... even on motorways at 90 mph looking down for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, phones should be banned in cars in my opinion. :scared: Rant over :laugh:
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I think our roads would be a lot safer if people paid more attention to actually driving rather than looking at a phone !!!! txting, facebook, twitter, etc.. I do a lot of driving and being that bit higher in a van the amount of people i see with a phone on there lap is scary... even on motorways at 90 mph looking down for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, phones should be banned in cars in my opinion. :scared: Rant over :laugh:
....I wholeheartedly agree with you :happy2:
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^^^2nd that last statement I hate been one sided but the amount of young women I see in cars on the phone is getting stupid
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I hate seeing people on the phone when they pull in front of you or almost come into the side of you at a roundabout.
I have Bluetooth in my car and if someone calls me I will answer but I won't make a call in the car.
I do think everyone should be made to do the advanced driving or a version of it before getting there licence. I had my licence for 6 years when I done my bike test I went for advanced driving on a bike and I learned a lot.
Motorway driving could be a problem in the test as I am 80 miles away from the nearest motorway!
On my driving test I got a minor for not using 5th gear going up a hill in a 30 zone and the car was struggeling in 4th (1.1 fiesta)
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Can't say I see too many actualy driving with a phone stuck to an ear as I think it's to easy to be seen by the rozors and get nicked for it... My opinion is Facebook and twitter have a lot to do with it ... I have been told that the police routinely check phone activity when attending accidents ... Due care and attention spring to mind ...
Not sure even more testing for a licence would make much difference... Like to bet 6 points and a grand would have an effect though.
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Can't say I see too many actualy driving with a phone stuck to an ear as I think it's to easy to be seen by the rozors and get nicked for it...
....Those that do it are mostly wise to how obvious it is when the mobile is held at the ear, so what has become far more common is drivers texting , often in their lap! But it's obvious to anyone seeing them look down and with only one hand on the wheel.
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I find it quite odd that people can afford to drive around in expensive cars esp 4x4/SUV types and yet can't afford bluetooth. I've seen drivers of cars with illegal tints seem to use their phones for voice calls.
RR, reminds me of the local dual carriageway where I saw some youngster in a Pug swerving side to side in his lane whilst he looked down to text, intermittently looking up. :stupid:
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Second prog about to start now for those who may be interested :happy2:
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Just watched episode 2 and while I agree that men take more risks on the road I don't agree with their statement that females are better drivers. They may be safer but not better as in skill or ability!
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