MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: blackthorn on November 05, 2012, 05:45:38 pm

Title: Sachs clutch
Post by: blackthorn on November 05, 2012, 05:45:38 pm
Hi guys,

Bought my edition 2 weeks ago, it had a brand new sachs clutch fitted on the 17th of Aug 2012 and it was barely driven since then maybe done 1000miles if your lucky yet it appears to be slipping  :sick: it felt like it was slipping 3 days after i got it but i thought it was just TC kicking in but yesterday i was in 4th sitting at 40mph then put the foot down a wee bit say 3/4 boost, the engine started to go on boost but the car didn't feel like it was pulling at all so i really fear the clutch is slipping already! the car has 352bhp 360lbft.

when the clutch was done the DMF was done along with the slave cylinder, the recipt says exactly this:

Dual mass flywheel
2 piece clutch kit
Hydralic slave cylinder

with a total cost of £800

dosen't say the exact clutch fitted but i know it was sachs, or as the owner before me said "it looked a beast" but he dosen't know that much about car's he just drove it...

can anyone help with this? does the clutch have warranty?

cheers,

Andy
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: E30Dom on November 05, 2012, 09:46:53 pm
Is that including labour!? My sachs (400ftlbs rated) was £600 odd quid on it's own, new DMF and clutch slave + labour took it up to near £1200...

So sounds like a standard sachs clutch or a lesser rated one (think rated to 320ftlbs) and no wonder it's slipping...

If it's an organic, the driving it carefully(say 1000miles) can help take the glaze off... but doesn;t sound right to me...

Mines stage 2+ with no slip...
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: blackthorn on November 06, 2012, 12:45:10 am
Yeah thats all in mate DMF, clutch and slave fitted and by the sounds of it its not looking good lol

going to pop upto the garage tomorrow to see exactly what they have fitted to it but i wont be suprised if its the 320lbft one ur talking about :-/ if its the right one fitted though 400lbft then i will be asking them questions! could the slave some how of leaked oil onto it?

i just need the stage 2+ map but i better get this clutch sorted before i get it mapped again eh...
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: E30Dom on November 06, 2012, 10:37:42 am
That must be Stage 2+ for that power/torque surely?

Yeah check which one and check fitted correctly...
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: GNJ_Motorsport on November 06, 2012, 11:25:18 am
Yeah get to the garage and get it checked out mate that sounds like they have put a standard clutch in which won't last long with that power.

If you need a new kit then I'd get it done properly and go for the LOBA single mass with 550nm rated Sachs clutch. I had this setup in my S3 and it could handle anything you chucked at it.

The same kit is available for the Golf just not got saound to adding that to the site yet.

http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/LOBA-Motorsport-Single-Mass-Flywheel-and-Sachs-Clutch-Conversion-S3-8P-%2806%252d12%29.html
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: blackthorn on November 06, 2012, 12:36:14 pm
That must be Stage 2+ for that power/torque surely?

Yeah check which one and check fitted correctly...

Nah the maps only a GIAC stage 1 buddy, been looking into the stage 2+ though as i would like that done soon!

will be popping to the garage after i get my hair cut!  :sad1:

If you need a new kit then I'd get it done properly and go for the LOBA single mass with 550nm rated Sachs clutch. I had this setup in my S3 and it could handle anything you chucked at it.

The same kit is available for the Golf just not got around to adding that to the site yet.

http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/LOBA-Motorsport-Single-Mass-Flywheel-and-Sachs-Clutch-Conversion-S3-8P-%2806%252d12%29.html

that sounds like the right clutch for the job buddy! can the one in the link be bought for the golf? since its the same engine or will i have to wait until u have put up the golf one?
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: E30Dom on November 06, 2012, 12:45:32 pm
How are you getting that much power from stage 1!?! :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: graeme on November 06, 2012, 12:56:31 pm
How are you getting that much power from stage 1!?! :popcornsoda:

It must be a stage 2 plus map thats on the car a stage 1 map will be seeing 310bhp or there abouts ?

Are you sure the map thats on it is not a stage 2 plus giac ? :scared:
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: MC71 on November 06, 2012, 12:57:21 pm
How are you getting that much power from stage 1!?! :popcornsoda:

Was just going to ask that, 352bhp?   :surprised:

Yeah get to the garage and get it checked out mate that sounds like they have put a standard clutch in which won't last long with that power.

If you need a new kit then I'd get it done properly and go for the LOBA single mass with 550nm rated Sachs clutch. I had this setup in my S3 and it could handle anything you chucked at it.

The same kit is available for the Golf just not got saound to adding that to the site yet.

http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/LOBA-Motorsport-Single-Mass-Flywheel-and-Sachs-Clutch-Conversion-S3-8P-%2806%252d12%29.html

Why single? Will be needing a new clutch myself before going any further than my current stage 1. Is a single as friendly as dual for normal everyday, around town traffic use or does that depend on the company that make it?

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: E30Dom on November 06, 2012, 01:02:26 pm
You possibly might wanna get it logged by someone that knows the TFSI make sure it's all right... what supoprting mods has it got?
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: E30Dom on November 06, 2012, 01:26:22 pm
Just seen your spec list... that's some car! :congrats:

No wonder it's slipping if they have put a low spec clutch in... LSD and high power  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Sachs clutch
Post by: blackthorn on November 06, 2012, 03:48:40 pm
right,

I went up to see them but they need to dig out the files first so ive to go back up to see them tomorrow!

Just seen your spec list... that's some car! :congrats:

No wonder it's slipping if they have put a low spec clutch in... LSD and high power  :signLOL:

haha yeah its pretty highly spec'd, its good fun though  :happy2: well when the clutch dosen't slip... hah!

How are you getting that much power from stage 1!?! :popcornsoda:

Was just going to ask that, 352bhp?   :surprised:

Yeah get to the garage and get it checked out mate that sounds like they have put a standard clutch in which won't last long with that power.

If you need a new kit then I'd get it done properly and go for the LOBA single mass with 550nm rated Sachs clutch. I had this setup in my S3 and it could handle anything you chucked at it.

The same kit is available for the Golf just not got saound to adding that to the site yet.

http://www.gnjmotorsport.com/products/LOBA-Motorsport-Single-Mass-Flywheel-and-Sachs-Clutch-Conversion-S3-8P-%2806%252d12%29.html

Why single? Will be needing a new clutch myself before going any further than my current stage 1. Is a single as friendly as dual for normal everyday, around town traffic use or does that depend on the company that make it?

 :happy2:

i am 100% posative that its only a stage 1 map, Craigy could back me up on this one i think! so hopefully once i got stage 2+ i will see abit more power out of her  :driver:

same questions as this man! i don't have a clue about the differences of DMF and SMF? any help would be good on that fron also  :happy2: and with this clutch is it on off or just like a normal clutch with the bite point?

How are you getting that much power from stage 1!?! :popcornsoda:

It must be a stage 2 plus map thats on the car a stage 1 map will be seeing 310bhp or there abouts ?

Are you sure the map thats on it is not a stage 2 plus giac ? :scared:

as above Gee 100% its just a stage 1 map as i was on Autographs web site and they offer a package with pretty much the same spec stuff thats on my recipt which is a stage 1 map!