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Title: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 720p TV?
Post by: berg on November 11, 2012, 11:00:14 am
Thought of buyin my dad a Bluray player so can lend him lot of films I have but he only has a 780p tv, so am i right in thinking is pointless or will a blu ray in 780 still be a reasonable upgrade ver a DVD?  :confused:
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: stealthwolf on November 11, 2012, 11:02:49 am
I watch blu-rays on 720p (at a time when 1080i was the best you could get). It'll be fine. Get a player that upscales DVDs too.
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Andy on November 11, 2012, 11:05:11 am
My lass can't tell the difference  on any tv
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: berg on November 11, 2012, 11:10:25 am
My lass can't tell the difference  on any tv


lol, i can tell the difference between a good blu ray and a dvd but was not sure how much it was down to the 1080 tv and a god HDMI cable?
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Andy on November 11, 2012, 11:11:58 am
A good cable does make a difference
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Hedge on November 11, 2012, 11:13:07 am
Not with HDMI it doesn't.
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: rich83 on November 11, 2012, 11:14:19 am
Im not convinced by "good cables" when digital is concerned. If the signal is being transmitted and received without error, then in theory a cable will not make a difference.
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: stealthwolf on November 11, 2012, 02:18:51 pm
There have been tests showing that for audio and video, 99% can't tell the difference between cheapo and more expensive cables.
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: mad_pete on November 11, 2012, 03:44:23 pm
Cable quality makes no difference unless you are running them crazy distances. It's digital.  It's either a 1 or it's not. You don't get a better class of 1 on better cables.
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Saintsteve on November 11, 2012, 06:38:19 pm
Not with HDMI it doesn't.

Are you sure Ian?   :confused:

Depending on which tv and spec the tv is, then there are differences in hdmi picture quality using a better version..

To the purist , it's noticeable, but like joe public , will find it harder to spot or worry about any difference.

come across this on a daily basis as part of my job installing, so I disagree with people saying there isn't any difference.

Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Hedge on November 11, 2012, 06:44:37 pm
Yes Steve.  :happy2:

A 1's a 1 and a 0 is a 0. You may get some attenuation depending on the distance but that's it.
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Saintsteve on November 11, 2012, 06:51:04 pm


To answer this question properly....

For a regular customer with a LCD/LED, 3DTV or others, a premium HDMI cable can make an impression of offering more visual quality than a regular one based on his former experience with analog SCART and Component connectors. While it is true that a gold plated premium HDMI is superior to a regular one, it is however so in ways that don't matter that much around consumer electronics - probably the most notable one being maximum bandwidth. While a regular HDMI can achieve maximum transfers of about 10 Gbit/s, a premium one can go as far as 17 Gbit/s or even more. Also, such cables are usually more durable.
Taking into account that a regular HD stream on Freeview uses about 20 Mbit/s (eg. about 500x less than a regular HDMI can theoretically transfer), it is quite clear that even a regular HDMI that meets the official HDMI specifications is quite sufficient by itself.
Conclusion

Although there are applications where a premium gold plated HDMI is advantageous or even required (for professional grade electronics), a regular cheap HDMI is able to offer EXACTLY the same picture quality - meaning lossless. The sales staff in a shop might tell you differently, but then again, sales staff in a shop is paid to sell products.

In other words, there is a difference but it's not worth worrying about  :P
 
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Hedge on November 11, 2012, 06:57:40 pm
Come on Steve give us your final answer.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: rich83 on November 12, 2012, 06:29:31 pm
Yes Steve.  :happy2:

A 1's a 1 and a 0 is a 0. You may get some attenuation depending on the distance but that's it.

Cooooooorrect!!
 
And providing those 1s and 0s make it to the TV, its a physical impossibility for there to be any difference in A/V quality.

Heck.. i wired up some speakers with very cheap 6amp twin core copper power cable... and they sound superb!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Baz300 on November 12, 2012, 07:32:14 pm
The gadget show done a test on the premium HDMI cables vs the supermarket £5 ones and couldn't notice a notable difference between them
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: MC71 on November 12, 2012, 07:56:41 pm
Back on topic. It's worth it and as a Bluray player can be got for cheapo money now it's a worthwhile upgrade. I had a Bluray player long before I had a full HD LED TV and the improvement from a DVD player was vast and as mentioned they will upscale his DVD's as well, win win.

I am a sucker for a gadget and couple of years ago bought 2 expensive HDMI cables and genuinely noticed no difference from the £4.99 cable supplied with the Player.  :sad1:

Oh and don't be tight ad buy him an HD TV as well.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: DanGB on November 13, 2012, 11:41:09 am
720p is still double SD so I certainly think its worth it, especially on a large screen.

And no, expensive cable make f*ck all diffrerence with signal quality, the only difference is build quality and therfore reliabilty.

(7 years broadcast engineering experience)
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: Baz300 on November 13, 2012, 11:48:03 am
I noticed a big difference on my first plasma TV (720p) when I got a blu ray player

Also as said before get one that upscales DVDs as it makes them near HD quality too

You get smart blu ray players too which will give access to iplayer and love film/Netflix
Title: Re: Is there any point in watchin blu rays on a 780p TV?
Post by: MattPoss on November 13, 2012, 09:53:08 pm
With regards to cables I've just set up my new 2TB Sky Box with a 10m HDMI cable that was £25 delivered from Amazon (every review was 4 star or above) and it looks fantastic. I was a bit worried about the long cable affecting the signal but it's fine

Matt