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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Shorty on November 18, 2012, 08:10:18 pm

Title: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Shorty on November 18, 2012, 08:10:18 pm
Has anyone removed the charcoal canister on their Golf or any other 2.0TFSI?

Was having a mooch today and it gets in the way of my catch can proper bad, I thought it would be sweet if I wasn't there! I've just had a quick look on the net and can't find anything about it, as far as I can see its just a breather for the fuel tank? With a couple of pipes going to it, looks like it would be fairly easy to blank? I could get it mapped out too so no lights on the dash...

So yeah, has anyone done it?
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 18, 2012, 08:52:53 pm

Vrs Alex of AKS tuning has removed it from his vRS Octavia  :happy2:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 18, 2012, 08:58:43 pm
Did mine the other day as Mike says.  Fitted a much bigger catch can in its place.  Will throw up an N80 flow fault after a while.  Can be mapped out.  Niki rtech can do that on one of his maps.  Chatting to Revo about doing it to my map at the min too but they won't release one to the public I don't expect.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Shorty on November 18, 2012, 09:05:57 pm
Did mine the other day as Mike says.  Fitted a much bigger catch can in its place.  Will throw up an N80 flow fault after a while.  Can be mapped out.  Niki rtech can do that on one of his maps.  Chatting to Revo about doing it to my map at the min too but they won't release one to the public I don't expect.

The guy who has mapped my car has said in the past he can map it out easy enough. How hard was it to remove? The top breather pipe obv just unclips off at both ends, what about the pipe that goes across the engine?
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: BlackGTI on November 18, 2012, 09:20:02 pm
May be a silly question but is your oil catch can fitted on the same side as your charcoal canister.
I have fitted mine on the passenger side (nearside) as my canister is located on the drivers side (offside).
Could you not just do this?
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 18, 2012, 09:23:00 pm

My charcoal canister is passenger side.

My catch can was fitted passenger side (now removed)
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 18, 2012, 09:23:43 pm
Run a hose from the breather pipe that comes from the tank down to the bottom of the arch.  This vents the smells out the way.   Blank the feed to the inlet.

I'm going to take my inlet off and fully remove the N80 valve and pipework when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 18, 2012, 09:24:28 pm

My charcoal canister is passenger side.

My catch can was fitted passenger side (now removed)

It's on the drivers side Mike.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Cupra R on November 18, 2012, 09:29:00 pm

My charcoal canister is passenger side.

My catch can was fitted passenger side (now removed)

It's on the drivers side Mike.

 :signLOL: he ain't seen it in that long.  :ashamed: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 18, 2012, 09:31:54 pm

Brain fart, yes it is on the Drivers side  :ashamed: :ashamed:

Sorry!

Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Shorty on November 18, 2012, 09:32:50 pm
Run a hose from the breather pipe that comes from the tank down to the bottom of the arch.  This vents the smells out the way.   Blank the feed to the inlet.

I'm going to take my inlet off and fully remove the N80 valve and pipework when I get a chance.

Sounds easy enough, cheers dude! :)
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 18, 2012, 09:34:03 pm

My charcoal canister is passenger side.

My catch can was fitted passenger side (now removed)

It's on the drivers side Mike.

This is also true  :sad1: :sad1: 
 :signLOL:he ain't seen it in that long.  :ashamed: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Cupra R on November 18, 2012, 09:52:39 pm

My charcoal canister is passenger side.

My catch can was fitted passenger side (now removed)

It's on the drivers side Mike.

This is also true  :sad1: :sad1: 
 :signLOL:he ain't seen it in that long.  :ashamed: :evilgrin:

It'll all come good one day soon though eh.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 18, 2012, 10:01:45 pm

Im not driving it till its BT, 4x4  :innocent:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Cupra R on November 18, 2012, 10:08:11 pm

Im not driving it till its BT, 4x4  :innocent:

Red one or white one  :innocent:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 19, 2012, 10:46:16 am

Red  :innocent:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: rich83 on November 19, 2012, 10:52:14 am
What is the benefit of going this?
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 19, 2012, 10:54:28 am
What is the benefit of going this?

Room for a decent size catch can rather than the red bull sized BSH can.  Plus cleaner, tidier bay.
May be more reasons.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: RedRobin on November 19, 2012, 11:13:13 am

What is the benefit of going this?


Room for a decent size catch can rather than the red bull sized BSH can.  Plus cleaner, tidier bay.
May be more reasons.


....Is that the only reason? - It doesn't seem worth the hassle, especially as a revision to a remap is tricky to get.

My solution was to sell my BSH and get a Forge Catch Tank which modifies the screenwash tank filler:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FCatchTank%2FSightWindow.jpg&hash=97ca806f10b16ec9d409038bcb74dd038f0eca0d)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FCatchTank%2FBefore_After.png&hash=71580536b99f1fd32e102ededaf0d494415d502e)

^ BEFORE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  ^ AFTER

Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: RedRobin on November 19, 2012, 11:21:38 am
.
If you are that bothered by the appearance of the charcoal canister you can always dress it up with a cover.

The aluminium one by Forge costs ~£90 though. But if Show is your thing.................
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Cupra R on November 19, 2012, 12:04:12 pm

Red  :innocent:

 :party:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 19, 2012, 06:24:45 pm
Forge tank is too small for the TFSi imo.  Fills up with moisture too fast.  I'm running a larger Forge item now and it takes far far longer to require an empty.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Statller-Stevo on November 19, 2012, 07:06:51 pm
I suppose if it really meant that much to you, you could always lengthen the pipe work to the canister and hide it under the O/S wheel arch liner plenty of room under there on the Golfs not sure about the Octavia though. would be an easy job with no MIL problems 
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 19, 2012, 07:09:07 pm
I suppose if it really meant that much to you, you could always lengthen the pipe work to the canister and hide it under the O/S wheel arch liner plenty of room under there on the Golfs not sure about the Octavia though. would be an easy job with no MIL problems 

Similar to how the US cars are as they have the canister at the back near the spare wheel well.  Easy enough to map out though.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: RedRobin on November 19, 2012, 07:16:48 pm

Forge tank is too small for the TFSi imo.  Fills up with moisture too fast.  I'm running a larger Forge item now and it takes far far longer to require an empty.


....Too small? I only have to empty mine about every 6-8 weeks or so, depending on time of year.

So is this larger Forge item a new product? On release yet?
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 19, 2012, 08:13:33 pm
It's one I've pieced together.  Will get a pic.  In winter mine needs emptying every other week.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: rich83 on November 19, 2012, 08:51:38 pm
Suppose it depends on milage not time.... i would be emptying mine every other day.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: murph81 on November 20, 2013, 10:50:32 pm
Has anyone got any photos of the pipe and solenoid valve removed and blocked off?
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: vRSAlex on November 20, 2013, 11:00:40 pm
I will try and get some of mine tomorrow. Mine is all mapped out now.
Title: Re: Removing the Charcoal Canister (Part of the EVAP)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 19, 2013, 07:52:05 pm

No more MiL Alex?