MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: richtung on November 20, 2012, 08:10:36 am
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Morning folks,
Sorry for this early morning rant but i am sick to death of idiot drivers who drive with fog lights on when it isnt remotely foggy! :fighting:
i have noticed there are two types of these idiots -
1) people who drive with dipped lights and fog lights -why?why? I have noticed this more with cars that dont have xenons.. connection?
2) people who use fog lights INSTEAD of dipped lights... why mother of god is this better than using dipped beams??? These are the worse kind of idiots :stupid: totally inexcusable!!
I cant even flash these idiots (they are normally oncoming) as the car in front think im flashing them!!
grrrrrrrr!!!!
right, rant over!!!!
Rich...... and breeeeeeathe..
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Do you feel the same about LED DRL's? (in the same location as foglights on the Mk5, as mine).
Some cars are switched OEM so that the fogs can't be used unless the headlights are on.
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Do you feel the same about LED DRL's? (in the same location as foglights on the Mk5, as mine).
Some cars are switched OEM so that the fogs can't be used unless the headlights are on.
DRL's are fine - the light from the DRL's dont blind you and are an excellent safety feature :happy2:
just people who use fog lights.....when there isnt any fog.. :fighting:
Rich
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What's even worse is the idiots who don't know when to switch on their lights and those that think it's ok to drive around with side lights on in inclement weather or at dusk.
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It's nearly as annoying as people with those (illegal?) bright blue HID headlights. Who are they trying to kid?!
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What's even worse is the idiots who don't know when to switch on their lights and those that think it's ok to drive around with side lights on in inclement weather or at dusk.
....I agree! Some drivers don't switch on ANY lights until they can't see ahead. They don't have the intelligence to realise that vehicle lights are also a safety aid to being seen by other road users (pedestrians included).
Apparently the most common words said after an accident/incident are: "I didn't see you!".
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What's even worse is the idiots who don't know when to switch on their lights and those that think it's ok to drive around with side lights on in inclement weather or at dusk.
Even worse when it's people in luxury cars which would be fitted with auto lights!
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What's even worse is the idiots who don't know when to switch on their lights and those that think it's ok to drive around with side lights on in inclement weather or at dusk.
I see this alot in well lit up areas, people just aren't bothered as long as they can see ahead :fighting:
What's even worse is the idiots who don't know when to switch on their lights and those that think it's ok to drive around with side lights on in inclement weather or at dusk.
sidelights with fog lights on...WTF? WTF? WTF? :stupid:
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It's made even worse when the cretins who do this accidentally put on their rear fog light.... Punishable by death!!
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^^^^THIS!!^^^^
I see all of the above loads as I work shifts and so will be going to/coming from work in the dark regularly. :fighting:
I always have my lights on auto - although this doesn't stop me from abuse either as the VW auto lights in my old ED30 used to come on and go off half a dozen times in the space of a minute if I was going under trees. Thankfully the Golf R must have a timer limit on and if the auto lights come on they stay on for a certain period of time before going off again. :smiley:
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Are you able to control the front and rear fog lights independently in a GTI? Not that I want to of course...
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Are you able to control the front and rear fog lights independently in a GTI? Not that I want to of course...
....Yes - You pull out the switch towards you? I know when I'm in the car!
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You can have the fronts on their own but to have the rears you need the fronts on as well.
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You can have the fronts on their own but to have the rears you need the fronts on as well.
Cheers Hedge, that's what I wanted to know. Surely pointless though. If it's foggy don't you need both front and rear fog lights on?
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Morning folks,
Sorry for this early morning rant but i am sick to death of idiot drivers who drive with fog lights on when it isnt remotely foggy! :fighting:
i have noticed there are two types of these idiots -
1) people who drive with dipped lights and fog lights -why?why? I have noticed this more with cars that dont have xenons.. connection?
2) people who use fog lights INSTEAD of dipped lights... why mother of god is this better than using dipped beams??? These are the worse kind of idiots :stupid: totally inexcusable!!
I cant even flash these idiots (they are normally oncoming) as the car in front think im flashing them!!
grrrrrrrr!!!!
right, rant over!!!!
Rich...... and breeeeeeathe..
A few weeks ago I saw a mk5 gti coming towards me.
As a mk5 gti owner I was having a good look.
He had he fogs lights on (why I have no idea). But the iceying on the cake
was he also had his sunglasses on!!!!! :stupid:
This had me in stitches!!!! Lol
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A few weeks ago I saw a mk5 gti coming towards me.
As a mk5 gti owner I was having a good look.
He had he fogs lights on (why I have no idea). But the iceying on the cake
was he also had his sunglasses on!!!!! :stupid:
This had me in stitches!!!! Lol
....Are you sure it wasn't me!? Was the drive wearing a baseball cap?
LED DRL's in the GTI foglights location and I wear prescription lensed polarising Oakley's.
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A few weeks ago I saw a mk5 gti coming towards me.
As a mk5 gti owner I was having a good look.
He had he fogs lights on (why I have no idea). But the iceying on the cake
was he also had his sunglasses on!!!!! :stupid:
This had me in stitches!!!! Lol
....Are you sure it wasn't me!? Was the drive wearing a baseball cap?
LED DRL's in the GTI foglights location and I wear prescription lensed polarising Oakley's.
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It's was not you RR!
It was a standard black gti.
And it didn't have LED drls.
Just the standered fog lights during the day with no fog :/
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I find DRLs annoying as front fogs! :happy2:
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I find DRLs annoying as front fogs! :happy2:
....Well, we are never going to agree on that, so each to their own :drinking:
Mind you, I don't find front fogs that annoying.
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I find DRLs annoying as front fogs! :happy2:
....Well, we are never going to agree on that, so each to their own :drinking:
Mind you, I don't find front fogs that annoying.
DRL's are a nice touch. Fogs tend to give off the light that blinds me! :mad:
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On modern cars where DRL's are fitted from the factory, does the DRL switch off when you switch on the dipped beams?
I have also seen sidelights + DRL's used at night..... :fighting:
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On modern cars where DRL's are fitted from the factory, does the DRL switch off when you switch on the dipped beams?
I have also seen sidelights + DRL's used at night..... :fighting:
It dims the DRL's
My Dad always said avoid people that wear hats and people that smoke a pipe while driving. So far it's been reasonably good advice.
If I ever meet a pipe smoker that's wearing a hat I turn round and go home. :laugh:
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I find DRLs annoying as front fogs! :happy2:
I don't really find them annoying, I just fail to understand the reasoning for them apart from being a bit of extra "bling?"
If someone can't see a huge chunk of metal on wheels driving on the roads I can't see how said vehicle having DRL's is going to make much of a difference if any.
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I find DRLs annoying as front fogs! :happy2:
I don't really find them annoying, I just fail to understand the reasoning for them apart from being a bit of extra "bling?"
If someone can't see a huge chunk of metal on wheels driving on the roads I can't see how said vehicle having DRL's is going to make much of a difference if any.
i dont think they are bling, there are proven to reduce accidents during the day - im sure its documented somewhere.
anyway, my rant about fog lights is still going on and can feel my blood pressure rising as i look out of my window and see its dark and on the drive home, i will come across the inevitable idiot with their fogs on!!! :fighting:
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I find DRLs annoying as front fogs! :happy2:
I don't really find them annoying, I just fail to understand the reasoning for them apart from being a bit of extra "bling?"
If someone can't see a huge chunk of metal on wheels driving on the roads I can't see how said vehicle having DRL's is going to make much of a difference if any.
....This subject is something of an old chestnut and has been discussed many times. As I was the first person in the UK to fit them on a Golf back in 2008, I have heard it all.
It's not as simple or as black and white as you say, JStav. If you have the time, please read some of this:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1917.0.html
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^ LED DRL's on my Mk5 GTI
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My Dad always said avoid people that wear hats and people that smoke a pipe while driving. So far it's been reasonably good advice.
If I ever meet a pipe smoker that's wearing a hat I turn round and go home. :laugh:
....Then perhaps I should start smoking a pipe. :evilgrin:
I wear a hat with a peak for a very good reason: It stops top light from interfering with my vision through my prescription shades.
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QED.
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You can have the fronts on their own but to have the rears you need the fronts on as well.
Cheers Hedge, that's what I wanted to know. Surely pointless though. If it's foggy don't you need both front and rear fog lights on?
If your car never had front fog lights as some cars don't, wouldn't you want the person if front of you to have on their rear fogs lights (providing it's foggy of course), so that you could see them from further afield as a safety measure? I know I would.
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You can have the fronts on their own but to have the rears you need the fronts on as well.
Cheers Hedge, that's what I wanted to know. Surely pointless though. If it's foggy don't you need both front and rear fog lights on?
If your car never had front fog lights as some cars don't, wouldn't you want the person if front of you to have on their rear fogs lights (providing it's foggy of course), so that you could see them from further afield as a safety measure? I know I would.
You're missing my point - I'm saying what is the point in being able to control them independently? If it's foggy, it's foggy, and if your car has front and rear fog lights surely you need both on. When is there ever going to be a scenario when you just need your front ones on?
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You can have the fronts on their own but to have the rears you need the fronts on as well.
Cheers Hedge, that's what I wanted to know. Surely pointless though. If it's foggy don't you need both front and rear fog lights on?
If your car never had front fog lights as some cars don't, wouldn't you want the person if front of you to have on their rear fogs lights (providing it's foggy of course), so that you could see them from further afield as a safety measure? I know I would.
You're missing my point - I'm saying what is the point in being able to control them independently? If it's foggy, it's foggy, and if your car has front and rear fog lights surely you need both on. When is there ever going to be a scenario when you just need your front ones on?
Oh fair play to you. I thought you meant fronts on and not rears.
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If your car never had front fog lights as some cars don't, wouldn't you want the person if front of you to have on their rear fogs lights (providing it's foggy of course), so that you could see them from further afield as a safety measure? I know I would.
You're missing my point - I'm saying what is the point in being able to control them independently? If it's foggy, it's foggy, and if your car has front and rear fog lights surely you need both on. When is there ever going to be a scenario when you just need your front ones on?
....Totally logical, Dr. Spock, but all the front lights (except proper dedicated DRL's) are 'active' lights giving a beam, not 'passive' signal lights as the rears are and so it's the rears that need to be stronger to then be seen in fog.
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1) people who drive with dipped lights and fog lights -why?why? I have noticed this more with cars that dont have xenons.. connection?
2) people who use fog lights INSTEAD of dipped lights... why mother of god is this better than using dipped beams??? These are the worse kind of idiots :stupid: totally inexcusable!!
1) i reckon the vast majority of cars on the market that have xenons will also have auto lights, which would presumably just be left in auto
2) maybe their headlight is out? not an excuse but that might be the reason!
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If your car never had front fog lights as some cars don't, wouldn't you want the person if front of you to have on their rear fogs lights (providing it's foggy of course), so that you could see them from further afield as a safety measure? I know I would.
You're missing my point - I'm saying what is the point in being able to control them independently? If it's foggy, it's foggy, and if your car has front and rear fog lights surely you need both on. When is there ever going to be a scenario when you just need your front ones on?
....Totally logical, Dr. Spock, but all the front lights (except proper dedicated DRL's) are 'active' lights giving a beam, not 'passive' signal lights as the rears are and so it's the rears that need to be stronger to then be seen in fog.
I don't get what you're saying - are you saying there is a reason why you can just activate the fronts and not the rears?
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If your car never had front fog lights as some cars don't, wouldn't you want the person if front of you to have on their rear fogs lights (providing it's foggy of course), so that you could see them from further afield as a safety measure? I know I would.
You're missing my point - I'm saying what is the point in being able to control them independently? If it's foggy, it's foggy, and if your car has front and rear fog lights surely you need both on. When is there ever going to be a scenario when you just need your front ones on?
....Totally logical, Dr. Spock, but all the front lights (except proper dedicated DRL's) are 'active' lights giving a beam, not 'passive' signal lights as the rears are and so it's the rears that need to be stronger to then be seen in fog.
I don't get what you're saying - are you saying there is a reason why you can just activate the fronts and not the rears?
....More a case of being able to just activate the rear foglight and not the fronts.
The rear is much more important to safety and hence why it's illegal (MOT) not to have one or not have it working.
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Yeah, exactly. I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate to only have the front ones on, hence I don't understand why fog light aren't simply on or off.
Anyway - what a bloody annoying topic!
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1) people who drive with dipped lights and fog lights -why?why? I have noticed this more with cars that dont have xenons.. connection?
2) people who use fog lights INSTEAD of dipped lights... why mother of god is this better than using dipped beams??? These are the worse kind of idiots :stupid: totally inexcusable!!
1) i reckon the vast majority of cars on the market that have xenons will also have auto lights, which would presumably just be left in auto
2) maybe their headlight is out? not an excuse but that might be the reason!
1) if its on auto, why the need to manually turn on the fog lights when it isnt foggy?
2) Ive seen this too often for it to be coincedence. Both dipped beam bulbs out at the same time?? i dont reckon so...
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^^^Both my dipped beams went out simultaneously a few months back. Didn't realise until I had to drive home. Swapped one dipped with a main beam bulb and nothing. Meant I had to drive with fogs on. Passed two cop cars and neither said anything. Got them changed within 24 hours with new bulbs which worked fine.
Having said that, it seems to be all the rage the past two years that I've noticed it. Either dipped and fogs or sidelights and fogs. I once tried fogs and dipped on a country road and other than illuminating the kerbs, it did nothing else. It is completely useless IMO and people should be pulled over for it.
I've yet to encounter any weather where I've needed foglights in the past few years. When I lived in Dorset, there were roads where patches of mist would be dense enough to warrant it. For around five seconds. The last time I remember dense fog requiring fogs was when I was about 8. Rear fogs were just about visible and everyone was crawling at around 10-20 mph on the motorway.
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What i hate is the retards who flash their lights at me because they think I have fog lights turned on when they are actually DRLs.
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What i hate is the retards who flash their lights at me because they think I have fog lights turned on when they are actually DRLs.
....Agreed, though I get less of it nowadays as people are getting more used to DRLs on cars.
I think your DRLs on your Fabia are exactly the same as mine - Hella 3-LED 'monkey face' lights.
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I decided to complie a list of cars thismorning without their lights on. It was raining a visibility was pretty poor.
- Ford KA
- Poshe 911
- 3 BMW X3's
- Merc Van
- BMW 3 Series
- BMW 1 Series
- VW Beetle
- 2 Ford Fiesta's
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I decided to complie a list of cars thismorning without their lights on. It was raining a visibility was pretty poor.
- Ford KA
- Poshe 911
- 3 BMW X3's
- Merc Van
- BMW 3 Series
- BMW 1 Series
- VW Beetle
- 2 Ford Fiesta's
:sick:
And mine Edition 30 .... parked in my drive ....as usual :innocent:
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Well i almost quoted all the cars in the carpark... But i thought that slightly unfair! :evilgrin:
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When did this become legal.A work colleague got fined a few years back for having his foglights on during good weather.I does,nt really bother me to see this but there is a process to activating the fogs,(well there is on all the cars I owned) so the driver must fully intend to use them maybe for safety reasons or just plain posing. :driver:
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When did this become legal.
A work colleague got fined a few years back for having his foglights on during good weather.I does,nt really bother me to see this but there is a process to activating the fogs,(well there is on all the cars I owned) so the driver must fully intend to use them maybe for safety reasons or just plain posing. :driver:
....You are dead right about the act of switching fogs on being conscious and intentional.
I don't know about the exact legal detail but I remember reading (when I was researching DRLs in 2008) that the UK was initially anti DRLs (now overridden by EU vehicle manufacturing rules) but stated it would accept the use of foglights as an interim if obliged to comply with Europe. Who knows if Police forces services have been briefed accordingly but I guess that many people can't tell the difference and that using fogs in unfoggy conditions has become more acceptable due to the increasing appearance of DRLs.
I bet that there are plenty of motorists out there who think that DRLs are foglights :rolleye:.
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When did this become legal.
A work colleague got fined a few years back for having his foglights on during good weather.I does,nt really bother me to see this but there is a process to activating the fogs,(well there is on all the cars I owned) so the driver must fully intend to use them maybe for safety reasons or just plain posing. :driver:
....You are dead right about the act of switching fogs on being conscious and intentional.
I don't know about the exact legal detail but I remember reading (when I was researching DRLs in 2008) that the UK was initially anti DRLs (now overridden by EU vehicle manufacturing rules) but stated it would accept the use of foglights as an interim if obliged to comply with Europe. Who knows if Police forces services have been briefed accordingly but I guess that many people can't tell the difference and that using fogs in unfoggy conditions has become more acceptable due to the increasing appearance of DRLs.
I bet that there are plenty of motorists out there who think that DRLs are foglights :rolleye:.
I have noticed more people seem to be using them and think this is the reason.