MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: matsu on June 23, 2009, 06:44:46 pm
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whats the worst that happens if i got german plates on front and back..... and now magentice fronts(choice of english and german)
and how many times am i expected to get away with it if pulled?
or is that how long is peice of string questions?
oh and carbon frontage on yyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaah!
photos at wkend¬!
fanx
matsu
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Big Al, over to you :wink:
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i had a warning over my plate, just came through the post (picked up by ANPR van in Notts), basically telling me to get proper ones or next time big trouble, i do know of people going through courts over them
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from dvla
Offences
It is an offence to alter, rearrange or misrepresent letters or numbers in order to form names or words or in such a way that
makes it difficult to read the registration number. Characters must not be moved from one block to the other e.g. AB51 DVL
must not be displayed as AB5 1DVL or AB 51DVL. Vehicles with illegally displayed number plates may FAIL the MoT
test. The police can also issue fixed penalty fines for illegally displayed number plates. Offenders are liable to a MAXIMUM
FINE of £1,000 and in some cases the mark may be withdrawn.
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf
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i had a warning over my plate, just came through the post (picked up by ANPR van in Notts), basically telling me to get proper ones or next time big trouble, i do know of people going through courts over them
What plates and where did you get them blue? Mine are dubmeister pressed plates which are legal?
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why buy them if you know they are illegal,
DVLA can take the plate off you if you are stopped twice.
Or go over to golfgti forum and get in on the group buy for the UK legal pressed ones, I am in on it, and they need about 5 more people to get the offer, so I would reccomend that! :grouphug:
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i had a warning over my plate, just came through the post (picked up by ANPR van in Notts), basically telling me to get proper ones or next time big trouble, i do know of people going through courts over them
What plates and where did you get them blue? Mine are dubmeister pressed plates which are legal?
mine wasnt for german plates, i just had the spacing in wron place, i.e *** ** instead of ** ***
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mine were like how shaun described. I ended up goin to court over mine after being pulled 3 times i think? They ended up giving me a 30quid fine! Joke really! But i can't be doin with the hassle of running illegal plates now tho!
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It seems to me that if you really want to run your own style of plate then it's okay but you'd be foolish to take no notice once you had been warned. However, personally I think that illegal spacing and/or illegal font styles of letters/numbers make you look a pretentious twit anyway. Small plates or no plates are cool until receiving a warning.
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i echo the sentiment of the above about miss spaced plates. I really am not a fan of numberplates you have to miss space now. Including my own, its just it has become a part of my car
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Hey, Jay, buddy - You and Steph and your gang have to come to The Ring one day! It's one of those 'must-do-in-your-life' things for car enthusiasts.
Coolest plate I saw was 'GT03 BUZ' on a bright orange Porsche GT3 - Almost as cool as 'VW05 RED' :evilgrin:
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well..
my 'illegal' plates were the first thing i bought for gordon last year.lol
i am aware theyre illegal, even more so with the rear plate being white too (its on my list of things to do, get a yellow one.. :innocent:) ...
like a couple ppl on here i told, i got pulled for them for the first time 2 weeks ago.. but tuned out, the officer was a customer of mine and a fellow golf owner.lol he let me go..
basically, there isnt such a thing as a german style uk legal plate.. 3d plates are illegal, presssed plates illegal, any logo other than the europe badge is illegal, any font other than the norm is illegal, spacing as to be as norm..
tbh, its all a bit ridiculous..
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Small plates are just asking for trouble on a car, I have never understood why people buy them.
I'm personally not a fan of cool plates either. I was very tempted with a previous car to buy a plate which related to the model variant; it being a very rare car. However I am glad now that I didnt.
Each to their own and all, but I say get something that means something to you personally, not just the car.
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Each to their own and all, but I say get something that means something to you personally, not just the car.
....I prefer something which relates to the car rather than my ego. However, I got lucky with mine - 'VW' for Volkswagen, '05' for Mk5, 'RED' both for the car colour and my music persona RedRobin Music Productions, and all totally legal so no hassles. It gives my ride a memorable identity and gives people I've never met before the chance to approach me.
I'm used to it but was surprised by the amount of attention I got at The Ring [cue for me to be told that that was for quite different reasons!]
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if you want german style, go for dubmeister which are legal
otherwise not worth the hassle being targeted IMO
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I was getting new plates at the weekend and was musing over just leaving the space out too. You see such flagrant breaches of the law I had convinced myself that AB55DVL was ok rather than AB55 DVL. No significance in the number just thought it looked better.
The local strathclyde police are such efficient and lovely people with an eye for design detail that I don't think I will bother.
Just some nice legal "raised" plates I think with euro GB at the side. Spoilsports :-(
I also wish that we were allowed black background and silver fonts like pre 1973 cars. Could look great against the gti front.
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I had them on my MKIV,ran them for 3 years and was pulled twice..Once for an insurance hiccup.Traffic had scanned my plates,computer said no and pulled me.Turns out the insurance company made a typo on the reg number.Anyhoo,thought I,d blown it when he went to the nearside to speak to me,saw I was,nt there and walked v e r y slowly to the drivers side.Invited me into the volvo and showed me the computer read out.Then asked if i was in the Forces,I said no and set about the pre planned speech about just been to a show,originals in the boot,blah blah. They said no problem,they scanned them fine so no issues.(Sheffield J35).
2nd time I forgot to put my lights on,got pulled,again nothing said about the plates.(Doncaster)
These were the type with the german D and proper german font..I know I was lucky and others have had severe warnings etc.
My opinion,I would,nt do it now on the MKIV and dont think they suit the MKV.
Gulf
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not saying anything in this thred, :signLOL:
plate haters!! :P
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reading caz's comments it would seem that my cornish flag on the plate is not allowed.
but, have been pulled and pointed with fine for fracturing a speed limit and the lovely police officer said nothing about it
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Where abouts in Cornwall are you VC.. Anywhere near Hayle??.
I,m back down there for my mates birthday,He,s having a big bash with 6 bands could get you invited if interested.
Gulf
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ooooh er a can of worms indeed.
ive got ones similar to caz but yellow on rear.
my plate has very simple and easy to read registration so i,m hoping i,ll get not too much attention for them but if i get pulled once then i,ll change em back. my GF wont leave it be tho lol!
she cant wait for me to get nicked so she can say "told ya so" :rolleye:
thanks again for the perspectives!
matsu
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As discussed you can't display a plate that tries to misrepresent what it should be e.g using the screws to make a letter appear different or incorrect spacing. Since 2005 all plates must conform to the regulations and must state this on the plate. Basically white on the front, yellow on the rear with reflective material. The ones that display the flags were until recently illegal however you can now display the EU flag on the far left.
As for the WORST that could happen..........it all depends where you were pulled. Different Police forces have different practices for things like this. Some will issue you a VDRS which forces you to rectify a defect and provide proof from a registered test centre that its been done within 7 days from midnight the day you get the ticket. Some will issue a fixed penalty ticket and some will report you for summons which means court. On the other hand the police can make you park the vehicle up and remove the plates meaning you can't drive it again until you get the correct ones on at the road side. You also have to consider that most insurance comanies won't insure a vehicle that isn't road worthy and dodgy plates would, if they were being awkward constitute this. Then you can have your car seized and get reported for no insurance. That means a minimum £100 for recovery of your car, a possible 6 points and a £400 fine at court!
Its worth noting too that in the very near future the legislation is changing with regards to plates not conforming and when it does you'll receive 3 points on your license. This is due very very soon and when it does the police will hammer it like to get the point across.
Of course thats worse case scenario and is unlikely to happen providing you don't become a smart arse with the five'o but why risk it, especially for points!
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I'll ditto what has already been said - illegally spaced plates, modified plates (with screws etc.) look sh*te. I'm also not a lover of German plates - I can't see the point in them, plus the fact they've been done to death by all the Mk 1 and Mk 2 owners.
I have a personal plate that is spaced correctly and has the correct lettering and I'm completely happy with it that way. I just have my initials on mine and wouldn't have a car-related plate any day.
If you do want to modify your plate or fit illegal German style plates then go ahead at your own risk....just don't come whinging on here when you get fined :happy2:
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Where abouts in Cornwall are you VC.. Anywhere near Hayle??.
I,m back down there for my mates birthday,He,s having a big bash with 6 bands could get you invited if interested.
Gulf
up the coast from me but not too far away... everything's north from where i live :grin:
(except the stuff like lands end and st. just but they dont count...oh... but i'll let you include sennen cove :grin:)
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Where abouts in Cornwall are you VC.. Anywhere near Hayle??.
I,m back down there for my mates birthday,He,s having a big bash with 6 bands could get you invited if interested.
Gulf
up the coast from me but not too far away... everything's north from where i live :grin:
(except the stuff like lands end and st. just but they dont count...oh... but i'll let you include sennen cove :grin:)
Renting a converted barn in St Just for a week in September..Keep an eye out for me VC.. :drinking:
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moschops is down here in september too..... :drinking:
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its a balance of risk if you choose to run a non std plate.
I run a front 2/3rds plate and love it, std rear. Had one fine so far in nearly 2 yrs.
However as Boothmeister alluded to , the law is gonna change and for me the balance will have tipped to far and Ill change.
A fine I can handle , a definite 3 points (or more) is definitely not worth it.
You make a choice and take the risk as GolfGirl says :happy2:
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Agree completely :happy2:
It's the chavs and also the pretentious ones who have altered fonts and spacing which have spoilt it for the rest of us :fighting:
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I still think that a black background and silver font would look great...dont really care about the spacing.
I had German Euro plates (and font) on mine when I purchased it, needless to say my experience for the pedantry that oozes from Strathclydes finest made that my very first mod. Got some cheapos on ebay...but now I'm getting some quality marks made up from a local shop. All legal and spaced correctly.
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I still think that a black background and silver font would look great...dont really care about the spacing.
....Probably because I'm old enough to have had cars in the era of silver font on black metal, I think they are very dated and don't look right/appropriate on modern cars. They also devalue and disrespect the older cars imo. I don't understand adding old metal plate technology to a modern piece of engineering.
But each to their own :happy2:
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"disrespect to older cars".... :signLOL: you old hippy :wink: :wink: never thought of that at all...
Not metal, I was talking the more modern plastic kind, in ye shoppe (and up on the wall) they look good at least. I would never have the bottle though due the easy pickings it gives the local (and highly respected) constabularly.
Like shooting fish in a barrel and all that...also helps get their pension fund up a bit and allows them to show that they have been busy all day and not just eating donuts in a lay-by..... :wink:
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"disrespect to older cars".... :signLOL: you old hippy :wink: :wink: never thought of that at all...
.... :laugh: :signLOL: :laugh: - Nice one! Those hippy days were fun.
Not metal, I was talking the more modern plastic kind, in ye shoppe (and up on the wall) they look good at least. I would never have the bottle though due the easy pickings it gives the local (and highly respected) constabularly.
....I haven't seen so many of those but can imagine that some might be very well styled.
Like shooting fish in a barrel and all that...also helps get their pension fund up a bit and allows them to show that they have been busy all day and not just eating donuts in a lay-by..... :wink:
....I'm tempted to but I ain't gonna rise to that one, mate. Let's just say that I don't begrudge them the occasional doughnut - The job is much harder than most people realise.
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I have been running with misplaced plates for approximately 4 years & never been pulled, stopped or questioned by the police - standard font just the space in the wrong place.
However turning up to my local dvla office with said plates on the car, application to transfer in hand, was, with hindsight stupid :ashamed:
I disagree with comments about plates I'm a fancy plate lover & proud - within reason as long as the fon't isn't stupid
Dvla charge a fortune to buy plates that look like names, words etc – even have auctions to push the price of plates up further, and then accompany that with the stick if you misrepresent them then they’d rather you didn’t buy them, but we’ll still charge you for the privilege. :angry015:
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I disagree with comments about plates I'm a fancy plate lover & proud - within reason as long as the fon't isn't stupid
Dvla charge a fortune to buy plates that look like names, words etc – even have auctions to push the price of plates up further, and then accompany that with the stick if you misrepresent them then they’d rather you didn’t buy them, but we’ll still charge you for the privilege. :angry015:
....99% of the illegal fonts are stupid and make the owner look a bit of a twit.
The smart and coolest thing to do is to have totally legal plates but buy one which still communicates something individual rather than gobblygook. Those are the plates which DVLA are selling and you don't need to mis-space them etc etc. Keep it subtle - The rest is either chavvy or snotty pretentious - No real class.
[imo of course]
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i hate gay itallic writing on plates, now that looks cheap and agree with robin, makes the owner look like a tw@t!
but german plates FTW!! :signLOL:
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Doughnuts rule :drool:........and yes the jobs bloody hard!
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within reason as long as the fon't isn't stupid
Agreed fonts are a no-no, in my opionion, but I personally have no problem with misplaced or german style plates - in fact the dubmiester pressed plates are great, & to the best of my knowledge completely legal.
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within reason as long as the fon't isn't stupid
Agreed fonts are a no-no, in my opionion, but I personally have no problem with misplaced or german style plates - in fact the dubmiester pressed plates are great, & to the best of my knowledge completely legal.
yes they are,
ANd thats why more people need to get the group buy sorted, so that I can finally get my damn plates, and put my carbon grille n, as that cant go on until I have my new plates to go with it...
Phew, that typing has tired me out,,, I need a dognut!
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I hope you don't want a dog nut mate! :signLOL:
I should imagine they're a bit on the chewy side .....
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anyone got pics of the dubmeister versions.... am thinking i just got paid :evilgrin:
matsu